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Ferdinando


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praise to meditation 4
#28563322 - 12/01/23 06:09 AM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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hey all great trips 
i just want to praise meditation it is really incredible
i have been sitting 2 x 45 min. a day for a long time
and I highly recommend it
i have gotten it much better i am extremely happy much happier and it has reduced suffering trmendously
have a great life and good action
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redgreenvines
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super!!!!
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Pinkerton
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Much love, Ferdinando!
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ever try it with low dose psychedelics?
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Re: praise to meditation [Re: Freedom]
#28564583 - 12/01/23 11:29 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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Meditate everyday.
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Bardy


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Awesome work! I’m just getting into it. Praise be to meditation!
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Heroic Dosage
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I can't do it for the life of me, and I've tried many times in earnest.
Maybe one day this will change.
Edited by Heroic Dosage (12/02/23 02:31 AM)
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epilectric
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i completely agree. it can make so calm and serene. but it usually only lasts for about an hour after a session. i need to keep it up again. everyday 15min at least
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Heroic Dosage said: I can't do it for the life of me, and I've tried many times in earnest.
Maybe one day this will change.
Channel your energy!
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redgreenvines
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Re: praise to meditation [Re: epilectric] 1
#28564737 - 12/02/23 04:40 AM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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epilectric said: i completely agree. it can make so calm and serene. but it usually only lasts for about an hour after a session. i need to keep it up again. everyday 15min at least
Of course the side effects of doing it dissipate, but the practice of following the breath, keeps on adding mental 'muscle memory' for calming down, and reconnecting to the task. also the comfort with beginning again spreads to other things: there are always going to be distractions, as the brain is always ready to detect movement and change, and it suppresses what is not moving, as well as navigating towards the familiar, beginning again is core to the practice of 'beginner's mind'.
if you make your moving target the breath, meditation proceeds naturally.
my simple regime for 45 mins or less
set your timer, get in a comfortable position, relax and begin during the out breath - mentally say: "beginning," at the beginning of the out-breath, "middle," at the middle of the out-breath, and "end," at the end of the out-breath, & during the in breath: "beginning," at the beginning of the in-breath, "middle," at the middle of the in-breath, and "end," at the end of the in-breath, & repeat until the bell goes. relaxing as you notice the need. & if you drift or lose it, begin again, without fuss or judgement.
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Bardy


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Yeah, I’ve really been enjoying trying to meditate while doing tasks throughout the day. I’m trying to do it even when I talk to people now, just noticing that I am the space in which the other person is appearing. I think I’m slowly getting better at it… I’m guessing it’s going to take a lot of practice to get good
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Re: praise to meditation [Re: Bardy]
#28564802 - 12/02/23 06:26 AM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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this is advanced awareness of mental contents!
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Re: praise to meditation [Re: Bardy]
#28565271 - 12/02/23 01:11 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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I am the space in which the other person is appearing.
Are you? Where do you appear then in order to make such a distinction?
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Re: praise to meditation [Re: Bardy] 1
#28565452 - 12/02/23 03:23 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Bardy said: Yeah, I’ve really been enjoying trying to meditate while doing tasks throughout the day. I’m trying to do it even when I talk to people now, just noticing that I am the space in which the other person is appearing. I think I’m slowly getting better at it… I’m guessing it’s going to take a lot of practice to get good
how are you practicing with this?
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Re: praise to meditation [Re: Freedom]
#28565517 - 12/02/23 04:16 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Kickle said: I am the space in which the other person is appearing.
Are you? Where do you appear then in order to make such a distinction?
My body appears to myself as a pair of feet on the ground, each with a leg on top which terminates at my waist. My waist sits below my torso, on which I see two arms, one coming out each side, left and right. All of this appears in the same space that the other person appears in. Not the same point in that space, but we share it. We’re both a part of it.
I am the space in which all of this is happening. I am the silence in which all of these sounds are arising. I am the darkness in which all this light is shining.
I’m just describing Douglas Harding’s teaching about being headless. I’ve just bought his book called “On Having No Head”. I haven’t read it yet but I’ve already learned how to practice it through listening to his student Richard Lang talk about it on Sam Harris’s podcast and app. It’s really, really great to learn how to do. Quote:
Freedom said:
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Bardy said: Yeah, I’ve really been enjoying trying to meditate while doing tasks throughout the day. I’m trying to do it even when I talk to people now, just noticing that I am the space in which the other person is appearing. I think I’m slowly getting better at it… I’m guessing it’s going to take a lot of practice to get good
how are you practicing with this?
Literally just whenever I think of it I try to notice what my conscious experience is like. I focus my attention on what it feels like to see, then I notice that there are sounds happening all around me. If a thought pops into my mind I notice how it just seems to arise out of nowhere, then I let it go and it disappears into nothingness, and I focus again on my experience of seeing, hearing, and bodily sensations.
When you’re in this state of mind you can try looking for the one we call “I”, the self, you can try looking for the centre of your consciousness also, and you realise that there is no I. I, in this sense of the word, is just a product of thinking. It does not truly exist.
I practice these things now whenever I think of them. When I’m at work it can be difficult, but I keep trying, because it’s all about bringing your attention back to simply being without thinking about being. Even if I can only do it for five seconds every 15 minutes I still enjoy it, and you get better at it.
When I’m at home I’ll listen to one of Sam’s guided meditations for 5-10 mins then I’ll sit there for another 10 or so minutes in silence. But I feel like trying to do it as you go about your day is just as important as making little bits of time to sit and do nothing.
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Re: praise to meditation [Re: Bardy]
#28565543 - 12/02/23 04:33 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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that works basically coming back to it every 15 mins is great too
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Bardy


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It’s very calming, and brings a great sense of freedom. Freedom from thoughts. Thoughts that have controlled, largely in a negative way, how I perceive my self for so long.
When you learn that these thoughts are just popping into and out of existence all the time through no fault of your own, and that you can let them go without letting one circle around your mind it is such a weight off your shoulders.
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Re: praise to meditation [Re: Bardy]
#28565902 - 12/02/23 08:30 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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space practice can dismantle the self, can be a wild ride
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Bardy


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Re: praise to meditation [Re: Freedom]
#28565912 - 12/02/23 08:45 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Is what I described what you call space practice?
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