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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: loladoreen]
    #28562325 - 11/30/23 03:30 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28562330 - 11/30/23 03:37 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

I was just in Seattle..
it's truly bizarre.. everyone is gone.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: loladoreen]
    #28562340 - 11/30/23 03:44 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

No they just moved to Shelton.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow] * 2
    #28562344 - 11/30/23 03:49 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

LOL
I went all the way to Centrallia... things have changed drastically.
Not just in there. Portland, San Francisco, etc.
It is everywhere.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
    #28562351 - 11/30/23 03:54 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Yeah 70% of cases being DEFINITELY from male/male sex is why it’s stigmatized that way. I feel like that’s not stigma, just statical data. And that’s just people who admitted it. The number is definitely higher, unfortunately, especially since the black community makes up a whopping 40% of cases, an ethnic group wherein homophobia is deeply ingrained.

AIDS is terrible. We should have basically no new cases at this point. It’s less an education issue now and I’d think a testing accessibility issue. Maybe. I’d need to look more into new cases than just that paper. Hopefully we will have a cure for it soon.



There is a cure that’s been out quite a few years, the HIV vaccine.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: San Pedro Girl]
    #28562354 - 11/30/23 03:57 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Yeah 70% of cases being DEFINITELY from male/male sex is why it’s stigmatized that way. I feel like that’s not stigma, just statical data. And that’s just people who admitted it. The number is definitely higher, unfortunately, especially since the black community makes up a whopping 40% of cases, an ethnic group wherein homophobia is deeply ingrained.

AIDS is terrible. We should have basically no new cases at this point. It’s less an education issue now and I’d think a testing accessibility issue. Maybe. I’d need to look more into new cases than just that paper. Hopefully we will have a cure for it soon.



There is a cure that’s been out quite a few years, the HIV vaccine.



Preventative only? Or does it cure people with HIV. Because that’s huge idk how I missed that. We should all be getting that.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
    #28562357 - 11/30/23 04:00 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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Yeah 70% of cases being DEFINITELY from male/male sex is why it’s stigmatized that way. I feel like that’s not stigma, just statical data. And that’s just people who admitted it. The number is definitely higher, unfortunately, especially since the black community makes up a whopping 40% of cases, an ethnic group wherein homophobia is deeply ingrained.

AIDS is terrible. We should have basically no new cases at this point. It’s less an education issue now and I’d think a testing accessibility issue. Maybe. I’d need to look more into new cases than just that paper. Hopefully we will have a cure for it soon.



There is a cure that’s been out quite a few years, the HIV vaccine.



Preventative only? Or does it cure people with HIV. Because that’s huge idk how I missed that. We should all be getting that.



Sorry, I was typing fast. I mean the pill you take right after being exposed. It prevents the virus from taking hold in your body somehow. Pretty revolutionary, but not a cure for someone who’s already had it for a long time.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 3
    #28562362 - 11/30/23 04:04 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

Ohhhhh ok yes PreP. Anti retro viral medicine I think. Yeah that’s free in Austin. So is full panel STD testing and birth control. The KIND clinic here in town is amazing. Busy, for obvious reasons, but I got all my testing done there when I was slutting off real hard. So did all my partners, so everyone knew everyone’s status.

Testing is necessary, but accidents happen and access to treatment is super important


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: San Pedro Girl]
    #28562910 - 11/30/23 08:27 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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Statistically, more straight people have hiv than gays.



I’d be willing to bet that a lot more gay men have HIV than straight men, per capita. In the US at least.



Per capita...I hope you realize all the major big cities like West Hollywood (and LA in general), Dallas, San Diego, etc, will have HIGHER amounts of stds compared to the rest of the united states right, for both straights and gays?

You'd have to measure the stats for both big cities, suburbs, and rural areas for straight vs gay hiv infected people.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28562913 - 11/30/23 08:28 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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Ohhhhh ok yes PreP. Anti retro viral medicine I think. Yeah that’s free in Austin. So is full panel STD testing and birth control. The KIND clinic here in town is amazing. Busy, for obvious reasons, but I got all my testing done there when I was slutting off real hard. So did all my partners, so everyone knew everyone’s status.

Testing is necessary, but accidents happen and access to treatment is super important



PREP causes kidney damage. Quite a lot so I heard. Oh, you didn't hear?

And statistically AGAIN, people who take PREP have a higher probability compared to people who don't take PREP of having an STI other than HIV. For example, the HIV rate for gays is starting to get really low....but SYPHYLLIS has been on the rise ever since PREP was introduced.

What happens is that PREP makes you think that you are invincible because "Oh I can't get hiv when I take PREP" but it doesn't protect you from all the other std's and sti's. A LOT of people on prep have some sort of undiagnosed and/or regressed sti. They are walking petri dishes. I've never ever spoke to anyone online who takes prep who is not an outwardly huge slut. Like they make it a point to let everyone know they are on prep so "you don't have to worry about getting hiv" and people have alllllll sorts of unprotected sex. "I'm on Prep....bla bla bla....I LOOOOVE cum up my ass, turn me into your cum slut." You NEVER see a guy who is looking for a relationship or something more serious with the word "PREP" anywhere on his profile. It's literally only sluts who take it. I have an old trans female friend, she said she will NEVER hookup with anyone on prep because they have such a higher probability of having an sti than everyone else. 

Yup, good thing nobody can get hiv anymore with prep, but they're getting every other std/sti instead. I'm pretty sure the medical insurance and pill companies already had this planned out.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28562917 - 11/30/23 08:30 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

No didn’t hear that. Also as per hiv.gov 70% of all new HIV infections are male on male sex. And that’s just those willing to admit that’s how they contracted it.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28562927 - 11/30/23 08:38 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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No didn’t hear that. Also as per hiv.gov 70% of all new HIV infections are male on male sex. And that’s just those willing to admit that’s how they contracted it.



But how many of those men identify as straight and then go off to have sex with their girlfriends/wives?

Here is the study that looks at sti rates before and after introduction of PREP:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5865505/


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: loladoreen] * 1
    #28562945 - 11/30/23 08:55 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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I heard a guy took orange juice and turned into a glass of acid




In the 60s, everyone knew a guy that knew a guy that thought he was OJ after an acid trip.  I remember my dad telling me that he heard that from someone when he was young

I also had a seriously professionally made pamphlet someone gave me explaining how acid changes your DNA and that if you did acid, your kids would be mongoloid or retarded or have some other horrible birth defect.  I'm pretty sure it was probably made using govt dollars



Do you remember the propoganda on drugs when we were kids.
The video of someone smoking weed and jumping out of the window to their death.
I was terrified of drugs.
I remember thinking if you use just one time you can die. Because it was the Nancy Reagan era, just say no. Everything was fear based.
One reason I fully support harm reduction so passionately.




I remember this


I was young enough when a lot of that came out to think there might be some truth to it but somehow that didn't slow down my desire to experiment with substances much.  Once I realized weed wasn't something to fear I tried acid fairly soon after because I figured the people telling me drugs were bad were probably lying about all of them.  I may not have tried so many drugs if they'd been honest with me
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28563085 - 11/30/23 11:04 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

The whole thing came up because if you dig through my post history, you'll find my thread about how I took a little more than 200ug of lsd right after eating a few oranges and boy was I in for a wild ride! I had only done lsd a handful of times before this and only lower doses maybe between 100-150 but definitely not super experienced.

Anyway, my plan was to take 2 hits of my acid that I had just got after eating oranges. My purpose for eating the oranges was to trip harder and bring out my visuals. Anyway, I tripped fucking balls and even though I'm familiar with all the urban myths of LSD and orange juice, I was somehow convinced in my tripped out mind that I was going to turn into a glass of orange juice BECAUSE I had eaten 3 oranges before taking the acid, and "you are what you eat" so I surely was going to turn into a glass of orange juice. Anyway, that moment of the trip didn't last too long and the trip went on. But it was still an intensely scary thing at the time.

But I thought it was fucking funny after the trip. I was going through the whole thing in my mind, "THIS is how it happens! People eat oranges, they take too much acid, and then they turn into a glass of orange juice, how could it happen any other way, you are what you eat. Just think of all the people who took too much acid that one time and then turned into a glass of orange juice all because they ate oranges before tripping because they wanted to trip harder..." I was wishing for a moment that I didn't eat those oranges even though I knew in the back of my mind that everything would be perfectly fine in 12 hours.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28563090 - 11/30/23 11:07 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

:dontspillme:
I was talking to someone the other night. He couldn’t decide during his trip if he had died. Or if he had become God.

I have also had not heard any legends about drinking orange juice to trip harder. Interesting…


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28563094 - 11/30/23 11:10 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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I was talking to someone the other night. He couldn’t decide during his trip if he had died. Or if he had become God.




Valid questions. I've had one mushroom trip where I was convinced that I was God and I had "risen" and "ascended" my consciousness to a higher state of all knowing universal consciousness.

I've also had other trips, one mushroom and one lsd, where I was convinced I was dead.... so... ya got that!


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Asante] * 1
    #28563527 - 12/01/23 09:43 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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uo

Ive had spiritual experiences on mushrooms, dissociatives and various tryptamines.  Ive had a near death spiritual experience that changed my entire world view but I say nothing when my atheist friends discuss their beliefs because its of no consequence to me.  Sorry Asante I respect you very much but Im trying to understand how this isnt just being judgemental.  You cant just bully people into embracing "spiritualism". 





With all due respect, and it's a lot, you misunderstand what i'm saying.


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UO

The Shroomery is too averse from the notion of a living God, to be the primary Embassy for Entheogenic Mushrooms in the world.

Either we on the member level, actively embrace the supernatural/spiritual side that is inherent to Entheogens for many people, or we will lose our relevance as the world's premier mushroom site.

"magic mushrooms demystified" has devolved to an aversion to the mystique of the spiritual component of Entheogenic Mushrooms.

We will fail if we dpn't heal that on the member level.
The wound cuts deeper on the staff level.





you're saying that despite your spiritual experiences, you grace people of another persuasion with the right to be them on their terms and let them be.

This is mature.

I'm saying that the Shroomery is inhospitable to people who have profound spiritual and/or supernatural experiences. You get opposed by the color blind for experiencing in color.

That is not the respect you offer.

The shroomery narrative is that these substances skew your perception and anything more is delusion or mental illness.

That is not suitable for the primary spot for entheogenic mushrooms because entheogenesis itself is fought as it occurs in others.

We should embrace that people come in with very complex experiences, not desecrate them with nihilist cynicism without hearing it out.

Spirit is fought off here.




Don't we have a specific subforum dedicated to the respectful discussion of spirituality and mysticism, where there are specific rules against poking fun at other's beliefs?

Don't we also have subforums for people to discuss what I personally consider to be batshit-crazy conspiracy theories?

Are we talking about the same shroomery?


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Jean-Luc Picard]
    #28563539 - 12/01/23 09:53 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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Don't we have a specific subforum dedicated to the respectful discussion of spirituality and mysticism, where there are specific rules against poking fun at other's beliefs?





A hard battle was fought to create a safe space for people with beliefs who were under relentless attack by the skeptics. This is not exaggerated.

Segregation was needed to avoid the gentle souls being driven off by the hardliners of nihilism.

That Philosophy & Spirituality and the Thunderdome had to be split up to protect the gentle against the tyranny of the rough, is testament to failed management.

We have asymmetric retention of the rough over the gentle on the member level and the staff level and that's a consequence of how the place is ran.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: TheStallionMang] * 1
    #28563570 - 12/01/23 10:19 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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Smellyhobbit said:
Ohhhhh ok yes PreP. Anti retro viral medicine I think. Yeah that’s free in Austin. So is full panel STD testing and birth control. The KIND clinic here in town is amazing. Busy, for obvious reasons, but I got all my testing done there when I was slutting off real hard. So did all my partners, so everyone knew everyone’s status.

Testing is necessary, but accidents happen and access to treatment is super important



PREP causes kidney damage. Quite a lot so I heard. Oh, you didn't hear?

And statistically AGAIN, people who take PREP have a higher probability compared to people who don't take PREP of having an STI other than HIV. For example, the HIV rate for gays is starting to get really low....but SYPHYLLIS has been on the rise ever since PREP was introduced.

What happens is that PREP makes you think that you are invincible because "Oh I can't get hiv when I take PREP" but it doesn't protect you from all the other std's and sti's. A LOT of people on prep have some sort of undiagnosed and/or regressed sti. They are walking petri dishes. I've never ever spoke to anyone online who takes prep who is not an outwardly huge slut. Like they make it a point to let everyone know they are on prep so "you don't have to worry about getting hiv" and people have alllllll sorts of unprotected sex. "I'm on Prep....bla bla bla....I LOOOOVE cum up my ass, turn me into your cum slut." You NEVER see a guy who is looking for a relationship or something more serious with the word "PREP" anywhere on his profile. It's literally only sluts who take it. I have an old trans female friend, she said she will NEVER hookup with anyone on prep because they have such a higher probability of having an sti than everyone else. 

Yup, good thing nobody can get hiv anymore with prep, but they're getting every other std/sti instead. I'm pretty sure the medical insurance and pill companies already had this planned out.



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I heard a guy took orange juice and turned into a glass of acid




In the 60s, everyone knew a guy that knew a guy that thought he was OJ after an acid trip.  I remember my dad telling me that he heard that from someone when he was young

I also had a seriously professionally made pamphlet someone gave me explaining how acid changes your DNA and that if you did acid, your kids would be mongoloid or retarded or have some other horrible birth defect.  I'm pretty sure it was probably made using govt dollars



Do you remember the propoganda on drugs when we were kids.
The video of someone smoking weed and jumping out of the window to their death.
I was terrified of drugs.
I remember thinking if you use just one time you can die. Because it was the Nancy Reagan era, just say no. Everything was fear based.
One reason I fully support harm reduction so passionately.




I remember this


I was young enough when a lot of that came out to think there might be some truth to it but somehow that didn't slow down my desire to experiment with substances much.  Once I realized weed wasn't something to fear I tried acid fairly soon after because I figured the people telling me drugs were bad were probably lying about all of them.  I may not have tried so many drugs if they'd been honest with me
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    #28563603 - 12/01/23 10:49 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

This one was better:




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