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Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox 3
#28561229 - 11/29/23 07:18 PM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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Hey Shroomites. This is my first time growing mushrooms. My goals for the grow are to gain general experience, and fruit several small shoeboxes to find good specimens to clone and take spore prints from.
Materials:Spore syringe from a trusted vendor - Golden Teachers. InstantPot Duo 60 V3 - Not the best PC for our purposes but it can fit two quart jars and I got it from a friend of mine for a few grams of dab lol. Pyrex GL45 Media Bottle - 500ml, got it second hand on Ebay for cheap. Disposable polystyrene 100x15mm petri dishes. DIY SAB - Made from a 105qt Sterilite tote. This is something that I want to replace asap. The shape of the tote is inconvenient. I also didn't do the best job making the holes and had to tape up a couple cracks. Wide mouth quart Mason jars - DIY PolyFil lids, I jammed a screwdriver through the middle of the lids and stuffed them tight with PolyFil. 6qt Sterilite totes. Whole oats from a local animal feed store. Coir. Edit 12/27: LED light bulb - Finally got a light setup. Sunlite LED 11W 6500K. TEKs used:BOD's Comprehensive Agar TEKBod's Easy AF Oat Prep TEK - Increased PC time to 3 hours and 10 minutes because I am using an InstantPot that can not reach 15psi. Bod's easy polyfil lid TEKBod's easy AF bucket tekBod's Easy AF SHOEBOXES STUPID SIMPLE - Just using the lids instead of an old bag. Agar:The agar recipe I am using is 2% agar-agar powder (Telephone brand), 1% table sugar, 2% potato flakes (Idahoan brand, plain), and 95% tap water. I inoculated 14 plates in total with the spore syringe and spent 16 days making transfers. I had some issues with contamination but ultimately was able to get clean looking T2 plates. I didn't worry about isolating, I figured I would just wait to see fruits before trying any of that. Grain Jars:I have 16 inoculated oat jars in total, all at various stages. Four were inoculated 18 days ago, four more 16 days ago, and finally 8 more yesterday. I assume that many of my jars will fail due to my inexperience, which is why I made so many to start out with. The second batch (from 16 days ago) seem to be moving slowly, much slower than the first four, I haven't even given them their first shake because they don't seem far enough along. The first four are all nearly fully colonized, one of them looked 100% to me this morning so I decided to transfer it to a shoebox ahead of the other ones. I probably could have waited for the others to catch up, but it's day 34 and I'm eager to get a tub going lol. I went through Stipe's clean spawn checklist and the jar seemed to pass inspection. It had a little bit of condensation, but I live in a travel trailer and the temperature swings around like crazy in here which seems to cause some slight condensation in the jars. Aside from that the color seemed normal, it broke apart easily, and I did not see any metabolites, slime, or uncolonized grains. Finally, when I opened it up it had no foul smell, it just smelled of oats and a slight mushroomy scent. Fruiting:In one of my shoeboxes I mixed the spawn and coir at about a .75:1 ratio and snapped the lid on.   Edit - Advice from Way and NotFromGeorgia prompted me to change the ratio. I added more sub and it is now about 1:3 + a top layer. I shook it level and packed it down a bit. Thanks fellas!   Thank you very much Bod, Stipe, Beef, and all the rest of the amazing people on this website who freely share their knowledge and experience with the rest of us. This seems like a hobby I could really fall in love with.
Edited by Beautation (12/27/23 01:06 PM)
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation] 1
#28561266 - 11/29/23 07:34 PM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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This is what reading and studying before attempting your first grow looks like.
Well fucking done.
Apologies if this is more of a grow log than a post looking for advice as well, but I figured I'd offer some input since it is your first grow.
Your spawn:sub ratio is strange. I'd recommend you go with more sub, something like 1:3-1:6. 1:1 and 1:2 I reserve for spawn that looks kind of sus personally.
This will give you more water in your substrate for the mushrooms to use as well as allow you to get a thicker substrate easier.
A compressed top layer of straight coir or coir and verm at spawning will help keep your surface conditions better and may help promote an even pinset.
I'd say you went a little low on your sub thickness and could be a bit more level and compact. I'd recommend aiming for at least 3-4 inches of compacted substrate. Shoeboxes benefit from thicker substrates greatly. Level out the substrate well to avoid any high spots or valleys.
Oh and stop fucking with polyfil lids and join the SFD master race.
All in all though this is in the 1% of first tries that I see on here. I look forward to seeing how it goes. Welcome to the shroomery, you're gonna grow some bomb ass mushrooms.
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Edited by Way (11/29/23 07:52 PM)
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Way]
#28561310 - 11/29/23 08:04 PM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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Thanks so much for the kind words and advice! I will definitely look into those lids.
I have plenty left over coir sitting in a cooler. Do you think I should go back in to add some more coir and the top layer? Or more of a next time thing?
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation] 1
#28561324 - 11/29/23 08:14 PM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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 hell yeah dude you're speedrunning to some good trips
i'd throw some more coir in there, or use more when spawning your other jars and watch if they behave differently
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: NotFromGeorgia] 1
#28561349 - 11/29/23 08:31 PM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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If you just spawned it, I wouldn't feel bad going in there and adding more coir. Just make sure you compact it a bit and level it out.
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation] 1
#28574604 - 12/08/23 03:47 PM (1 month, 19 days ago) |
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Small update on how things are going: Everything seems to be going well with the first tub. It initially took off really quickly but seems to have slowed a bit the last couple days.

I started three new tubs, with the second batch of jars, today as well.
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation]
#28586783 - 12/17/23 12:31 PM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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The frist pin popped up over night. What a great way to start the day! 


The other four tubs I have going are moving along nicely as wel. Some faster than others. I will add some pictures of those when they start pinning.
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation] 1
#28586833 - 12/17/23 01:11 PM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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Hell yeah! Congrats on your first pins! Well done.
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Way] 1
#28586855 - 12/17/23 01:29 PM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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Thanks!
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation] 1
#28587530 - 12/17/23 11:04 PM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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Yeeeees this is great! Good job 😊
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation] 1
#28587620 - 12/18/23 01:13 AM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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Quote:
Beautation said: The frist pin popped up over night. What a great way to start the day! 


The other four tubs I have going are moving along nicely as wel. Some faster than others. I will add some pictures of those when they start pinning.
Mine popped out a couple of days ago, we are going to make it bro! Congrats
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: MushroomMommy]
#28587741 - 12/18/23 03:10 AM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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Thanks! Nice to see you here, I've been following your log for a while now.
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation] 1
#28587757 - 12/18/23 03:35 AM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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The force is strong with this one...
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation] 2
#28598021 - 12/25/23 09:14 PM (1 month, 2 days ago) |
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I harvested the first tub's first flush this morning. It was a nice way to spend Christmas morning. The harvest was 266 grams wet, most of it is pictured here.
I made a spore print with the largest fruit, and cloned the biggest fruit in a good cluster to two plates.

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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation]
#28598024 - 12/25/23 09:16 PM (1 month, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
Beautation said: I harvested the first tub's first flush this morning. It was a nice way to spend Christmas morning. The harvest was 266 grams wet, most of it is pictured here.
I made a spore print with the largest fruit, and cloned the biggest fruit in a good cluster to two plates.


way to go Great first run of things. CONGRATS this man did his research and got it done .
edit i misread .
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Silentraindrops]
#28598029 - 12/25/23 09:23 PM (1 month, 2 days ago) |
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Thanks!
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation] 1
#28598213 - 12/26/23 02:26 AM (1 month, 2 days ago) |
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Nicely done. You followed the plan and reaped the rewards.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: elasticaltiger]
#28603165 - 12/30/23 09:51 AM (28 days, 22 hours ago) |
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Hey everyone. I'm hoping to get some advice on these tubs.
So it's been 5 days since I harvested the first tub, and it doesn't seem to be recovering very well. I floated it in room temp tap water for about an hour and gave it a heavy misting on top. I think a lot of the pins are aborting, and they certainly don't seem to be growing. I'm starting to wonder if it would be wiser to just toss this and start a new one since I have lots of clean spawn just waiting to be birthed. Living in a travel trailer, space is my most valuable resource.


A few other tubs I think I may have over-misted. I'm having trouble keeping good surface conditions. The beads of water seem to be absorbed by the sub very quickly and I wonder if it's because it's just too moist. Fruits are growing in these tubs anyway. They all look about like this:

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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: Beautation]
#28603167 - 12/30/23 09:54 AM (28 days, 21 hours ago) |
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You shouldn't be needing to mist a shoebox EVER. Leave the lid loose and LITFA
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Re: Beautation's First Grow - Golden Teachers - Spore Syringe > Agar > Oats > Shoebox [Re: RockinRobot]
#28603198 - 12/30/23 10:34 AM (28 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Okay, thanks. I will unlatch the lids and plan on not misting anymore.
As for the tub that has already seen it's first flush - do you think it would be a better use of my space/time to toss it and start a new one? Or is it normal to not see growth for a few days or so after harvest?
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