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The Official Baeocystis Thread * 13
    #28561041 - 11/29/23 04:57 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

P. baeocystis is definitely one of the more fascinating species of active mushrooms. I fell in love with them decades ago when I would find them amongst other woodlovers in the fall. They were always so mysterious in their nature and the way they conduct themselves. Upon eating them for the first time I realized just how special they really are.

This species has largely escaped the modern mushroom boom. Something in their elusive nature that carries through I guess. Not only do they evade our attention but those of us who have tried working with them have found it increasingly more mysterious and downright difficult. You can't spell difficult without cult.

This is a thread dedicated to the lovely Psilocybe Baeocystis in all it's glory. Let's work together to open the box on this species and let it's secrets out. It is a strong one, and I think right now there is enough community gusto to crack the codes and let loose on the world what this beautiful species has to teach us.


(I do plan to edit the op with more info and links and such)


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: wavyedge] * 2
    #28562054 - 11/30/23 11:49 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

Quote:

wavyedge said:
Aww shit! I'm in, for sure! :rockon:

This was my find in Oct, I took clones and spores that many of you now have:





Clones:



Temps around the start of fruiting:

(Scroll through Oct, pics are Oct 23)

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/canada/burnaby/historic?month=9&year=2023






Mine is moving across MEA right now. Germinated in just a few short days. Thanks Wavy!

I have another LC that has sat on the shelf for the last 3 or 4 years with a very nice healthy white leather on top. I'll pull a little piece out and plate that up too. Those spores were collected in Bellingham, WA and the LC is an MS. The furthest I got with that culture was fully colonized grain. I wasn't able to get the grain to take to any kind of substrate though I didn't try a lot of things.

This is quickly getting more interesting.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: wavyedge]
    #28562566 - 11/30/23 05:56 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

If somebody digs up and posts info on the phylogeny and any sequencing info, I'll tack it into the OP.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: kirkeng] * 3
    #28574486 - 12/08/23 02:24 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Pics hopefully tonight. Transferred pieces of "leather" from the top of an old ms lc (spores courtesy of NothingsChanged :hatsoff:) that's been sitting on the shelf for a couple years. The pieces are just starting to reach out into the agar. Also my Wavey MS is ready for T1's. Considering , as the growth looks clean, making an early lc from the germ plate.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Tweeq] * 6
    #28576313 - 12/09/23 07:53 PM (1 month, 18 days ago)

So here's the old lc (note the dust layer :laugh2:) and the resulting transfers. These transfers are reaching out into the agar now and they look good.



Wavey's spore. Did 6 transfers from these as well as a no guts no glory germ plate lc (water and a little brf).


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Nichrome] * 2
    #28581493 - 12/13/23 03:59 PM (1 month, 14 days ago)

Wavey's spores BRF LC is taking off pretty fast. By no means fast fast, but fast for the critter. Wavey's spore cultures are overall faster to move and less picky about nutrition than other baeos I've worked with.

Seems like the growth on BRF LC is more robust and faster compared to sugar based LC like LME or BRS. I whipped up some agar and added some BRF and dropped the sugar by 1% and added some extra brewers yeast to the mix and the myc seems to move faster with more robust growth on those plates too vs the 1.5% LPME Y agar I started them out on. I'll be continuing in that direction with the brf. I like what I'm seeing.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 1
    #28592144 - 12/21/23 12:24 AM (1 month, 7 days ago)

Thank you for the etymology lesson on those terms. I learned some stuff and broadened my understanding of my born language and words I use regularly. I love both the origins of elements of language as well as their evolution through time and into the future. Through our interactions we create an evolving vernacular.

If the term guerrilla grow is used in context to a certain vernacular, and is used properly pertaining to that vernacular, then the usage is valid. It would fly in a modern college paper. So would the term fly if contextualized in the same vernacular. Guerrilla growing is well defined and well used in the modern American counterculture vernacular.

In that sense I have done a lot of guerrilla grows and enjoy it very much. My mulch, public places, natural spaces, etc. I was spreading cyanescens around Olympia Wa parks and trails as far back as 01. I try to bring spawn to the huge city mulch piles every year still. That mulch is eventually sold by the city to bag mulch companies that show up with dozens of semi trucks. Then it gets sold worldwide. Doing my part.

So back to the topic at hand, my brf LC is doing splendidly. It will be ready to fill bank vials and play with grains and substrates soon enough. This Wavy spore culture is the fastest baeo I have seen yet.

In the 20's American jazz vernacular, I'm a viper and I'm going to get busy smokin' tea. :hatsoff:


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 2
    #28602758 - 12/29/23 09:48 PM (29 days, 9 hours ago)



Looks like my BRF and well water LC brine is right about neutral out of the pc and cooled to room temperature.

The Baeo LC is now mature and grew about as fast as a cube LC in the same recipe made the same day. Lightning speed.

It will go to rye very soon.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: alaskappalachian] * 3
    #28635075 - 01/25/24 10:27 PM (2 days, 9 hours ago)

I put some on grain and it is moving insanely slow and thin, almost invisible but it is moving.

I have 4 jars I noc'd with wild caught axenic Pseudomonas fluorescns bacteria lc. I snatched the pseudomonas off a Cordyceps militaris fruit I found in July in NH last year. I'll let those go a while then add the Baeo lc. Also going to noc another 4 with microscopic slime mold I pulled off my kiwi vines. I equipped the culture in it's amoeba stage with the same P fluorescens culture and now several generations in when the spores from the slime germinate and are in their amoeba form, the same Pseudomonas is still also present. If you magnify the slime spores enough you can see the little bacteria packets. P fluorescens unlocks iron and does all sorts of other wonderful things. Well see how the baeos like grain with pseudomonas, and grain with pseudomonas equipped slime molds.

This type of slime mold is invisible to the naked eye but is common in decaying plant material such as wood mulch. I often see slime molds in cohabitation with wild psilocybe patches. I've seen them eat psilo patches too like conquering invaders, but typically the big puke looking ones not the little tiny ones. The micro ones seem to get along hence my inspiration for the fucking around.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: endemic_entheogens] * 1
    #28635099 - 01/25/24 11:18 PM (2 days, 8 hours ago)

Happens all the time. Lot's of things do better with each other.

For example the fungi that leaf cutter ants lost it's ability to make new spores millions of years ago. The fungus has been handed from ant to ant for close to 50 million years now by modern reckoning. Gongylidia...


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: endemic_entheogens] * 3
    #28635119 - 01/26/24 12:06 AM (2 days, 7 hours ago)

There is very little legal research happening with psilocybes in our modern world.

You can find plenty of info on trichoderma preventing the growth of claviceps on cereal grains via volatile off gassing amines, but there isn't a lot to go on with psilocybes.

Very few of the people working with psilocybes in the real world, like the fine folks here for example, are working with bacteria or mold of any sort. I very rarely see anybody here intentionally growing bacteria, amoebas, mites, mold, nematodes, or any other microorganisms even though many people here posses the skill to do so. Understandably because many bacteria and molds and microorganisms are deathly scary, potentially pathogenic, and very hard to identify without expensive lab gear such as nanopore sequencers, liquid and gas chromatography, and extensive taxonomic knowledge or at least access there to. This place is likely the leading observational hub for modern psilocybe research too. It may get there eventually with the whole symbiosis thing. There is no rush in knowing everything there is to know. I enjoy the ride.

This all seems to be modernized but what we are all doing is still in it's infancy.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Nichrome] * 4
    #28635128 - 01/26/24 12:20 AM (2 days, 7 hours ago)



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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
    #28635750 - 01/26/24 03:35 PM (1 day, 16 hours ago)

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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: wavyedge]
    #28636913 - 01/27/24 12:55 PM (18 hours, 48 minutes ago)

That looks robust.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper] * 1
    #28637504 - 01/27/24 11:37 PM (8 hours, 6 minutes ago)



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