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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Fungus Gnat] * 4
    #28561493 - 11/29/23 10:33 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Psilocybe baeocystis cultivated on sterile horse manure outdoors.  Spores of this species germinate and grow agonizingly slow on PDA and the colonization speed of manure is not much better.  But fruits form relatively quickly after planting outside.  Several experimental plots using woodchips (the expected substrate of choice) failed.  I can only assume that P. baeocystis is a secondary decomposer of wood chips and does poorly as the primary decomposer.





I'd like to thank mattso and Mjshroomer for providing the original spores from a specimen collected in Washington.

These fruits are from 2nd generation spores collected from a smaller fruiting last Fall.  Cultivation information on the Spore Works website will be updated to reflect the new results.

The skirtlike formation on the lower edge of the caps is not normally seen in P. baeocystis.  I also saw the same growth happen last year, but only in the first flush.  It may be the result of growing in such an overly rich substrate and normalizes after the excessive nutrients are used up.  It also may be strain specific.  I have another print to work with and see if there are any differences.

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I really take note that their efforts using a wood base sub failed.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper] * 2
    #28561999 - 11/30/23 10:53 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

Aww shit! I'm in, for sure! :rockon:

This was my find in Oct, I took clones and spores that many of you now have:





Clones:




Temps around the start of fruiting:

(Scroll through Oct, pics are Oct 23)

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/canada/burnaby/historic?month=9&year=2023



Edited by wavyedge (12/20/23 09:38 PM)


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: wavyedge] * 2
    #28562054 - 11/30/23 11:49 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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Aww shit! I'm in, for sure! :rockon:

This was my find in Oct, I took clones and spores that many of you now have:





Clones:



Temps around the start of fruiting:

(Scroll through Oct, pics are Oct 23)

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/canada/burnaby/historic?month=9&year=2023






Mine is moving across MEA right now. Germinated in just a few short days. Thanks Wavy!

I have another LC that has sat on the shelf for the last 3 or 4 years with a very nice healthy white leather on top. I'll pull a little piece out and plate that up too. Those spores were collected in Bellingham, WA and the LC is an MS. The furthest I got with that culture was fully colonized grain. I wasn't able to get the grain to take to any kind of substrate though I didn't try a lot of things.

This is quickly getting more interesting.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Nichrome] * 5
    #28562202 - 11/30/23 01:54 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

I sat down and made some transfers from the clone plates today. I have been trying out these takeout dishes for agar plates that maybe have less waste plastic, and are definitely cheaper than the 100mm celltreat dishes I typically use:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B07TK3NBLQ?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image



Thanks to @SupaThaRipper for that idea, seem to be working out real well, even better for experimenting with different substrates.

When I collected the specimens, I also collected about 1/2 L of the original sub, hoping to get it to grow at home. That turned into a gnat infested mess in the fridge, so I PC sterilized it in a ziplock round. I also made up ziplocks of hardwood sawdust and some pine shavings/bark.

I put some of those substrates into takeout plates and transferred from the "polar bear pubes" dish:





Edited by wavyedge (11/30/23 04:11 PM)


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: wavyedge] * 4
    #28563986 - 12/01/23 04:15 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Sweet thread count me in!

Neosporen perhaps he'll chime in was successful growing baeos. Hit shaved maple tree wood with LC I believe.

I've been playing around with these of late using WBS for spawn. I had a couple stumps get ground down and removed. These shredded doug fir stumps mixed with Oregon ground clay soil is what I've been experimenting around with. I sterilized some of that and have a culture growing in 1/2 gallon sized jars. We'll see how that responds.

Also going to see about making planters of that mix with colonized spawn buried inside.

This particular baeos culture I'm playing with I got from a member out of Nova Scotia. Has these growing naturally in his yard lucky bastard around yard shrubs with wood chips spread about.

Here is a pix of how mine looks on WBS.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Viridis420]
    #28564172 - 12/01/23 06:15 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

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Here is a pix of how mine looks on WBS.




That looks amazing compared to how mine looked.
I believe they were first described in Eugene Oregon.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Nichrome] * 3
    #28565157 - 12/02/23 11:42 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Broke open a punky Douglas fir and harvested it for substrate. Nice and clean, no dirt or needles. The big chunks crumble easily.

Those are large ziplocks


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: thirdeyewild] * 6
    #28566155 - 12/03/23 12:35 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Came back to life after the transfer, but will it leap?

Sawdust


Original substrate of find


Pine shavings and bark


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: rhizoRider] * 3
    #28574222 - 12/08/23 11:01 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)


Fun transfers to make this morning. These spores germed pretty fast for the temperature I'm keeping the room they're in.  Probably end up making Josex-poke LCs out of some T2s if these grow out clean enough. :skatebart:


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: wavyedge] * 4
    #28575989 - 12/09/23 03:23 PM (1 month, 18 days ago)

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After 10 days, these have barely progressed.



Whereas at least twice this much growth happened on dishes of low-nute grain water agar. They were taken at the same time.



I think it's time to start getting creative with substrates.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Tweeq] * 6
    #28576313 - 12/09/23 07:53 PM (1 month, 18 days ago)

So here's the old lc (note the dust layer :laugh2:) and the resulting transfers. These transfers are reaching out into the agar now and they look good.



Wavey's spore. Did 6 transfers from these as well as a no guts no glory germ plate lc (water and a little brf).


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Nichrome] * 4
    #28583119 - 12/14/23 08:02 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)


That’s about how I remember it. Transfer from a plate that’s maybe two years old.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 5
    #28591420 - 12/20/23 01:38 PM (1 month, 7 days ago)

Well in my recent testing, rye grass seed soak agar performs slower for colonization than dilute grain soak agar.



On the left is grain (oats) cook water agar. Right is RGS cook water.

On my substrate tests, some baeo results: this species proves difficult when we ask it to jump from agar. These are all 8 days since transfer:

Straw pellets + coir



Starter mix:



Worm castings:



Other dishes are showing less or no growth.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: the_chosen_one] * 4
    #28591549 - 12/20/23 03:31 PM (1 month, 7 days ago)

Is smelling like a gorilla while you do cult work the same thing?...  I'm not even guilty of that though.

T2s on my unfiltered brf poorly ground ugly agar twice as fast as on diluted oat soak broth.  Got 2 LCs going atm and like half a dozen T2s on various agar recipes.  Wish I had more small dishes to emulate wavyedge's strategy.  Gonna have to look around.  I'd ordered some of the cups supa started a thread about but they came crushed all to hell so have to get creative.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: wavyedge]
    #28591568 - 12/20/23 03:50 PM (1 month, 7 days ago)

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Well in my recent testing, rye grass seed soak agar performs slower for colonization than dilute grain soak agar.



On the left is grain (oats) cook water agar. Right is RGS cook water.






What was your Water:Soak Water ratio for each of those batches? The rye grass one seems quite darker than your oat grain one, implying that it is quite higher in nutrients. If you used the same ratio for both, then I'd have to say the grass seed leached out more nutrient during the soak than the oats did. Even if it's just that the grass seed contains more tannins than the oats, tannins are still a nutrient for basically all woodloving species. If it is a secondary decomposer it won't like the higher nutrient content.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: wavyedge]
    #28591593 - 12/20/23 04:20 PM (1 month, 7 days ago)

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This may just be a trick of lighting, but does the bottom right plate in your pick have radial leading edges from the two 'noc points where I put the red circles? I've seen that kind of "ghost edge" with Hericium sp. often.



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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Nichrome] * 5
    #28592696 - 12/21/23 12:31 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

T1 s are taking well it seems, bottom right is a tad funky comparatively. Agar mix is MYA at like 1.4%, I’m not noticing a major drop off in speed. Definitely slower than say cyans but is growing at about the speed of my caerulipes or papuana.



Been gathering some rotted leaves and wood around the yard to use down the line for tests.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 2
    #28597942 - 12/25/23 08:15 PM (1 month, 2 days ago)

Having some better progress on rye, this time from LC.

Better colonization of the rye grain than I saw with oats. 7 days growth, there's more than shows in the picture, and I could do much better with LC (I'm a noob in that dept.)



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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: Fungus Gnat] * 4
    #28602748 - 12/29/23 09:30 PM (29 days, 9 hours ago)

I’ll try that. I put a makarorae jar in the garage a couple days ago to see if it would make a difference, I’ll put one of my baeo jars out there too.

This one was knocked up on he 2nd, it was in the fridge for about a week.


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Re: The Official Baeocystis Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 2
    #28602758 - 12/29/23 09:48 PM (29 days, 9 hours ago)



Looks like my BRF and well water LC brine is right about neutral out of the pc and cooled to room temperature.

The Baeo LC is now mature and grew about as fast as a cube LC in the same recipe made the same day. Lightning speed.

It will go to rye very soon.


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