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1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues
#28561018 - 11/29/23 04:30 PM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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Hi everyone, I wanted to share my experience and see if anyone had any useful input. It's going to be a long post, sorry about that.
To preface the story, I had been in a car accident 9 days before all of this happened, and lost conciousness, a doc I went to recently discovered a very minor tear in my spinal cord, which I assume happened during the accident, I don't know if that could've affected the reaction I had.
Back in 2021 I found some old acid from 2019 I had laying around, and decided to see if it was still potent, each tab was 200 micrograms and I had 7, I had initially tested one of the tabs with a kit, and it came out clean, I had also taken one of the tabs in 2019, and had a great trip, so I assumed that the rest of the sheet was clean.
I started by taking 1 tab, after waiting for 30 minutes I felt nothing, so I took one more, I waited another 15 minutes, nothing, so I took one more, after waiting another 10 minutes and not feeling anything I assumed that the tabs had gotten old and lost potency, so my dumb ass decided to take the rest of the tabs (7 in total) in hopes that I'd at least get some buzz out of it. 10 minutes after taking the tabs I started to get slighlt dizzy, and disassociate, then I started to feel a powerful tingling in my arms and legs, I ran to the kitchen to puke it up, but stopped for some reason, and after that I blacked out.
I remember a couple of things, I was laying on my bed, not knowing if I was dying or if I was good, I pulled out my phone and just started to record my face with the front facing camera (I looked absolutely gone), Then I remember pacing around my appartment, and time loosing all meaning, it felt like when I inhaled oxygen, each inhale lasted an eternity, and when I exhaled, each exhale lasted an eternity, it felt like I was trapped in space. Next thing I remember is I'm in the bathroom, puking, with my friend on face time, I was laughing for some reason. Next thing I remember was seeing myself from third person, ead on the bathroom floor, foaming from the mouth, my jaw clenched, and my body twisted as if my right side was spazzing.
After I partly regained conciousness, I remember not seeing clearly, as if I was looking though one of those upside down glasses, I though I was seeing red and blue lights outside my balcony, I though the cops and the fire deparment were outside my appt (lol), I was still numb and cold.
After pacing around a bit, not being able to see anything clearly, I managed to get a bottle of water, and started to down it, in hopes that it'd help me get back to my senses. Once I fully regained my vision I realized I partially missed the toilet in the bathroom, my body was numb, but after going to mirror, I checked to make sure I could move all my facial muscles, and my limbs. Then I checked my blood pressure, and it was approx 190/140 and my pulse was around 170. My bed was also pulled out from the corner as if I had pushed my self between my wall and mattress.
I cleaned up, took a shower, laid down, started to drink a lot of water in hopes to rehydrate, apologized to my dogs for scaring the shit out of them, and waited. Some time after me laying down, the right side of my body started to FUCKING HURT, the whole right side of my body started to tense up and pull to the left, it felt like my arm and leg were trying to go as left as possible, I felt like my whole right side was cramped, I also felt like there was a tight string going from my face, through the right side of my throat, down to my chest, and it was being tightened, pulling my chin down to my collarbone and twisting my neck to the right, it felt like if I tried to straighten my neck or arms, something would tear.
At this point I started to think I had a seizure or a stroke due to this only happening on my right side, so I dipped to the ER. Now the initial dose I took was around 2 PM as far as I can remember, and I got into the ER at around 12 AM, so a lot of time had passed, I assume my blood pressure had gone down. The doctors didn't really pay any attention to me, they didn't see anything wrong with my vitals, all tests came back fine, they did an MRI and didn't find anything, but the muscle and nerve pain was getting much worse, so I asked them to get me muscle relaxants and send me home, which they eventually did. I went home, took the relaxants, slept, and felt much better when I woke up, the muscle spasms were gone, I was still out of it a bit but that's expected. The only issue I felt persisted at the time was that I couldn't swallow properly, everytime I'd drink water or swallow saliva, it felt like the muscles on the right side of my throat weren't working properly, however this was very mild at the time.
After all this I felt ok for about 6 months, if I looked at the grass or the wall sometimes I would feel like it was slightly morphing, but it was just a visual, I felt fine otherwise. However after 8 months I started to get bad symptoms, the swallowing issue started to get worse, it felt like when I swallowed something the muscles on the right side of my throat were cramped and numb at the same time, and it felt like they weren't moving, I started to get weird nerve pain starting from the right side of my adams apple, going up to my right eye and ear through my chin, the back of my nose and throat would go slightly numb sometimes, and I would get brainfog, I also started to notice weird pain in my stomach that I had never felt before, I couldn't eat out anymore, and couldn't eat sugar because it made the nerve pain worse. Everytime I'd eat a substantial amount of food, it'd feel like I had been drugged, I would fall asleep, and wake up feeling extremely drained, and sometimes with pain on the right side of my body.
This was very mild and unnoticable in the begining, but as time went on, it has kept getting worse and worse. I have noticed that certain things affect the pain differently, drinking coffe, eating sugar, eating a lot of food, smoking nic all make it slightly worse, but what really brought out the spasms and pain was weed, when I smoked weed, I felt very simillar to what I felt when I regained conciousness after taking 7 tabs, my head started to spin, the muscles on my right side tightened and felt like they were cramping, the back of my throat and nose went numb, and I couldn't feel myself breathing, my Blood pressure and heart rate flew through the roof, and I got brainfog. This never happened before I took the 7 tabs and had that initial episode, none of these issues ever came up.
It's been getting worse since, my dysphagia has gotten worse, I don't smoke at all anymore (even though I miss it) because it brings out terrible symptoms, I can't drink, no coffe, my stomach feels like it's not working properly, and the muscles on the right side of my body are tighter than my left. All of the symptoms usually get worse at night or if my heart rate goes up high, I've been to countless doctors but none seem to be able to diagnose anything other than the minor tear in the spinal cord.
I've been trying to figure out what happened for the past 3 years but can't, I don't know if there could've been certain tabs that were bad in the sheet, or if the minor tear in the spinal cord caused that sort of reaction to the acid, or if I just had a mini stroke due to the dosage and my blood pressure getting so high.
I still get the nerve pain going from my throat, up to my face, and down to my stomach. Sometimes the right side of my body will feel like it's heating up, sometimes it'll start to cramp, and it feels like my mental capacity is not the same as it was before. not sure what could be causing it. Please let me know if any of y'all have had simillar experiences.
TLDR; Don't take crazy high doses, not worth it lol.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp] 1
#28561038 - 11/29/23 04:55 PM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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I would speculate that it is the tear and not the dose. I have a spinal injury too and it fucks with you in weird ways. When I had access to acid I usually took 10-20 blotters at a time on a regular basis and never had lasting adverse effects, this would have been late '80s early '90s before there was all these analogies available. I haven't taken acid since I was injured though, I totally would but just can't find it. I hope you find some healing eventually.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: thirdeyewild]
#28561072 - 11/29/23 05:18 PM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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Appreciate you brother <3. thanks for sharing your experience, spinal injurys suck ass
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp] 1
#28561593 - 11/30/23 02:06 AM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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+1 to what thirdeyewild said, I imagine this is a normal physiological response to your preexisting spinal injury OR if you did in fact stroke, because of that.
I doubt it would be from the acid itself, especially since at least some of it tested fine.
All the best man!
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Heroic Dosage]
#28561880 - 11/30/23 09:11 AM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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Thanks man, appreciate the input. I assumed that the acid couldn't have been the main issue since I had tested some of it, but wasn't sure since I don't remember having symptoms until I took the tabs. It's great to get more assurance and input on it, thank y'all
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
#28562019 - 11/30/23 11:15 AM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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LSD isn't going to give you a stroke or a seizure because of a spinal tear. If you damaged your brain in the accident it could cause it, but brain scans would've revealed the damage which I assumed they did after your accident in the hospital.
What is the most likely case is that while blacked out on LSD, you did something stupid and injured yourself further, probably in the same or similar area as the tear or somewhere affected by it, and you only realized it after you came out of the blackout.
That tight "string" you describe I have felt that same sensation on dirty LSD, even on doses of 300ug it becomes unbearable for me and other people I know and renders the experience unpleasant. I never have felt this feeling on really clean LSD.
For the food stuff making you feel like your so sleepy you've been drugged, your probably very sensitive to carbs now. It's pretty common and lots of people say heavy simple carbs make them feel like they need to fall asleep. It's also very common that after a head injury, your stomach starts to act completely different as they are intrinsically linked.
Seems like you took 1400ug of poor quality LSD, which is insanely high dose to take in the first place. Seems like on the trip, you fell or banged yourself against something and injured yourself during the blackout. This is very common during blackouts.
The lingering effects are normal for taking 1.5mg of LSD. You already broke the saturation point of 1.2mg, there is absolutely no reason for any normal person to take more than the saturation point, so yeah you really fucked with your brain chemistry. Your experiencing lots of symptoms and conflating what happened during the car accident with the after-effects of the LSD.
But this is a good warning story for people. LSD is a wonderful drug, but it's incredibly potent, and overdoses albeit not resulting in death or brain damage can still represent an absolute danger to the patient.
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oh my god mate, i think you need to get more checks done. maybe a heart scan, also brain scan. and go see an experienced neurologist.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
#28562136 - 11/30/23 01:04 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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yeah, go and see a medical professional and be honest with them.
good luck dude
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
#28562139 - 11/30/23 01:05 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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Yeah I've been to 3 neurologists, all of them very good. All the scans I've gotten (heart scan, brain scans, MRIs) look good, no issues on them except a tiny tear in the spinal cord in the neck, so they say it's hard to diagnose the issue. I've been researching on my own, but wanted to see if there's anyone who's had a simillar experience.
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Yeah taking such a high dose was incredibly dumb, I read that you can't overdose on acid, so I though the worst thing that could happen would be a bad trip, huge mistake on my part. always play it safe
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
#28562154 - 11/30/23 01:17 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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it might have been due to vasoconstriction. if you look at the blood vessels and imagine them being tightly strung together, this does make sense along the path you describe, does it?

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Frog_cmp said: Next thing I remember was seeing myself from third person, ead on the bathroom floor, foaming from the mouth, my jaw clenched, and my body twisted as if my right side was spazzing.
this is a daunting and disturbing read. i have read several reports about several mgs but this is hardcore.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
#28562166 - 11/30/23 01:28 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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Yeah I thought it was due to vasoconstriction as well, since I very likely had hypertensive crisis, I though that would cause some damage, but the crazy thing is nothing comes up in any MRIs, and I've had about 7 different MRIs done.
About the third person thing, there was more stuff that happened, I didn't include it in the initial post because it was irrelevant and I didn't want to make the post even longer. But while I was watching myself on the floor I kept hearing loud knocks, then the door was broken down and paramedics discovered me (I thought at this point I had died), and I saw my mom watching me from the living room and crying while the paramedics were checking me out. Saw some more crazy shit as well lol, but not all of it was bad, at one point I felt like I was shot out into space, simillar to a DMT trip.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
#28562176 - 11/30/23 01:35 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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well maybe these things are so micro that they don't show up on checks. the nervous system is very complex and literally relies on electric signals... maybe some misdirected nerve impulses? idk i just hope it stops some time. did it get better by now?
crazy. there were no paramedics there, right?
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
#28562209 - 11/30/23 02:01 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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hmm i also did too much 4-aco-dmt recently (40mg nasally) and initially had a very high heart rate and a strong tingling sensation in my fingers and face... but that didn't reappear
what do you think where the tingling sensation came from?
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
#28562229 - 11/30/23 02:20 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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OK
so the tear in the spinal cord sheath (not what was written but what I interpret) can and will send some wrong sensory signals from regions below the tear location, so if it is high in your neck the spurious sensory events should appear from a location below that part of the neck, and could be in the front or middle or back of the body. Could even be in arms or legs and nerves emerge from spine and branch downward and forward.
The spurious sensory signal has you panicking, but you have to acclimate to it, and learn not to react to that.
Otherwise, please treat lsd with more respect. It has a lot of potential but 1400 mics is not a great dosage idea.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
#28562460 - 11/30/23 05:15 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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epilectric said: well maybe these things are so micro that they don't show up on checks. the nervous system is very complex and literally relies on electric signals... maybe some misdirected nerve impulses? idk i just hope it stops some time. did it get better by now?
That's my leading guess rn, did a EEG and EMG on my legs and arms, both test came out fine. The most annoying part is the constant numb/cramping feeling on the right side of the throat, it feels like when I swallow, the muscles on the right side of my throat are not working, and I have this constant pressure feeling there, it gets better and worse sometimes tho.
It was slowly getting worse, I started to notice it getting a little worse about 4 months after, but what really accelerated it getting worse was when I smoked weed, that fully brought out the symptoms, before that they were supressed, I could feel them but it was hard to explain what type of pain it was and where it was, after smoking it just amplified the pain and symptoms to a 100, felt close to how it did when I was coming down from the 7 tabs. It's been getting very slowly worse as time goes on.
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No that was all in my head lol, I only saw the doctors when I went to the ER
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
#28562546 - 11/30/23 05:50 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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epilectric said: hmm i also did too much 4-aco-dmt recently (40mg nasally) and initially had a very high heart rate and a strong tingling sensation in my fingers and face... but that didn't reappear
what do you think where the tingling sensation came from?
I only ever felt that sort of tingling sensation for what I remember for about 10-20 seconds, and it was some time after popping the last 4 tabs. What I assume happened was that the tabs started to kick in, and either my heart rate went up and caused the tingling, or like you said it just comes from high doses.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: redgreenvines]
#28562575 - 11/30/23 06:00 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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redgreenvines said: OK
so the tear in the spinal cord sheath (not what was written but what I interpret) can and will send some wrong sensory signals from regions below the tear location, so if it is high in your neck the spurious sensory events should appear from a location below that part of the neck, and could be in the front or middle or back of the body. Could even be in arms or legs and nerves emerge from spine and branch downward and forward.
The spurious sensory signal has you panicking, but you have to acclimate to it, and learn not to react to that.
Otherwise, please treat lsd with more respect. It has a lot of potential but 1400 mics is not a great dosage idea.
The small tear is in C4, it's around the same level as the pain that I'm having on the right side of my throat, but from what I gathered based on what the docs said, not all of the symptoms match with the injury. I try to acclimate to the weird sensations and not react, but sometimes they just get really bad and raise my blood pressure, also makes it hard to focus.
And 1400 mics is a fkn terrible dosage lol, I 100% agree, it was INCREDIBLY dumb of me to assume the tabs had lost potency and take 7.
I attached an image of someone else who had a simillar tear, mine is pretty small but noticable on the MRI. Hopefully the image attached properly.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp] 1
#28562882 - 11/30/23 08:19 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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I'm pretty surprised 10 hours after 1400ugs you were able to get yourself to the hospital, especially after everything you went through. Did you drive, or was it walking distance, or did someone take you?
Also, I'm curious, when you first got those doses, was taking 1 a really strong trip? I'm wondering if this happened on actually less than 200ugs each which would be even more mind blowing! Sorry for all the questions, it's a wild story man!
I had a somewhat similar experience on a really bad MXE+LSD trip. Easily the worst drug experience I've ever had. So I can kinda put myself back there reading this, including injuring myself to the point of needing to go the ER.
I hope you get some answers and are able to get the help you need soon, and thanks for sharing!
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Aiko Aiko said: I'm pretty surprised 10 hours after 1400ugs you were able to get yourself to the hospital, especially after everything you went through. Did you drive, or was it walking distance, or did someone take you?
A friend drove me after I was able to call him, NO way I could've driven or even walked at that point lol, All muscles on the right side of my body were cramped, just spazzing.
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Aiko Aiko said: Also, I'm curious, when you first got those doses, was taking 1 a really strong trip? I'm wondering if this happened on actually less than 200ugs each which would be even more mind blowing! Sorry for all the questions, it's a wild story man!
I had a somewhat similar experience on a really bad MXE+LSD trip. Easily the worst drug experience I've ever had. So I can kinda put myself back there reading this, including injuring myself to the point of needing to go the ER.
No need to be sorry for the questions , I appreciate them, haven't been able to talk about it with many people who understand what LSD really is, the doctor's I've told it to just dismiss me and blame everything on LSD, so I stopped telling them.
When I took some tabs from the same sheet in 2019, I took half initially just to be safe and test it (ironic considering what I'd do in the future lol), the trip was nice, had me hyped for a couple of hours, a little bit of visuals like the popcorn ceeling I had at the time moving and morphing, and a big rush of energy, couldn't sleep until like 4 AM. Then a few weeks later I took a full tab and had more intense visuals, and still high energy, I was hyped af jus jumping up and down.
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Appreciate this a lot man
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
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I would need to see your image like these two to say more, but do read below.

I have seen similar scans and, most recently, my brother-in-law, who has scoliosis, had a surgery which improved his symptoms wherein a flexible plate was installed on the ventral surface of 3 vertebrae after sharp edges of the bone and cartilage were removed, and replaced with new material that will relieve the squishing pressure. His surgery was 6 hours, and the surgeon went in at the front of the neck and slid his equipment in behind the throat.
His symptoms were the numbing of both hands and feet, and the pinch to the spinal cord was much more severe than depicted here.
I imagine that you have a neck injury (which can happen even from jumping and landing roughly - or being hit on either side of the head) that is not pinching the whole spine but is affecting the very short nerve branch that goes to the right side of your throat that is producing error signals. This may not show up on scans, because the nerves coming out of the vertebral column are much finer structurally.
You probably need star trek level medical attention which we do not have yet, so just take it easy with your neck and head, and don't give up on smaller doses of acid.
edit: the best solution in today's medicine might be to sever the affected nerve, which would make that piece of the throat a dark spot that has no feeling at all. A very delicate procedure IMO, hard to limit the damage.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
#28563336 - 12/01/23 06:27 AM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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epilectric said: hmm i also did too much 4-aco-dmt recently (40mg nasally) and initially had a very high heart rate and a strong tingling sensation in my fingers and face... but that didn't reappear
what do you think where the tingling sensation came from?
I only ever felt that sort of tingling sensation for what I remember for about 10-20 seconds, and it was some time after popping the last 4 tabs. What I assume happened was that the tabs started to kick in, and either my heart rate went up and caused the tingling, or like you said it just comes from high doses.
hmm do you know more about the connection between heart rate and finger tingling? i'm really wondering what caused it for me...
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: redgreenvines]
#28563342 - 12/01/23 06:40 AM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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redgreenvines said: Otherwise, please treat lsd with more respect. It has a lot of potential but 1400 mics is not a great dosage idea.
umm don't you think he knows that by now given his symptoms and all? he didn't know they were still potent so he wasn't even planning on 1400 mics at all...
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redgreenvines said: You probably need star trek level medical attention which we do not have yet, so just take it easy with your neck and head, and don't give up on smaller doses of acid.
i agree
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: redgreenvines]
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Appreciate the input , I don't want to send my imaging just for privacy reasons, but my vertebrae are completely fine, the only abnormality is a small tear in the spinal cord around C3-C4, like shown in the pic on the left but MUCH smaller and appears sharper, 2/3 Neurologists didn't even notice it, but when I look at it on my own it's very much noticable. The only guess or lead that me and my doc have as to why there are these weird sensations and pain is that small tear, but it's weird how it only affects the right side, and reacts to weed, coffe, and other substances.
I do eventually want to try acid again, but after trying weed and seeing how that reacts with my brain now, I'll go with a very tiny dose and monitor the symptoms and then go up based on how I react to it.
As for severing the nerve, none of my docs have been able to pinpoint what nerve it really is, since it's affecting all of the right side, at this point I don't have much hope for reversing it, I've accepted that I have to learn to live with it, but if we find anything and can improve the condition, that'd be awesome.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
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Based on my research, a tingling in the arms and legs usually means a sudden heart rate increase, and can signify a heart attack or a panic attack.
"Experiencing chest pains, a rapid heartbeat and a numbness or tingling sensation should not be taken lightly. These signs and symptoms, along with other unique warnings, can mean that you're experiencing a heart attack or a panic attack, and depending on the situation, need to seek immediate medical attention."
Source: https://physiciansallianceofconnecticut.com/blog/panic-attack-vs-heart-attack/#:~:text=Experiencing%20chest%20pains%2C%20a%20rapid,to%20seek%20immediate%20medical%20attention.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
#28565103 - 12/02/23 11:01 AM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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If I were you, I'd stay the hell away from most drugs really. Start using any possible nerve tonic growths we know of that are scientifically backed - such as beta-glucans from Lions Mane mushrooms, Vitamin B series, anti-inflammatory substances as well will help a lot.
Your best hope is to just wait for your body to find new nerve paths and supplementing whatever you can that actually works will assist in this process. Eventually your body and brain will forge new nerve paths that will help the errant firing of nerves.
It won't ever be perfect again, but it'll get to a new homeostasis. I've had so many nerve injuries and they've traumatized me, they are the only thing that scares me.
But of my nerve injuries, two healed entirely, one is about 85% healed a year later, and the last I don't think the nerves on the right side of my mouth and cheek will ever be perfect and I'll always have a slightly crooked smile. So be it.
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what caused your nerve injuries?
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
#28565323 - 12/02/23 01:57 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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epilectric said: what caused your nerve injuries?
Most likely the car accident, I could've injured my neck while I was on tabs, or the hypertensive crisis could've caused it, but the most likely cause was the car accident, as I did hit my head on the steering wheel, blacked out for a couple mins, and it was a pretty bad accident all around, just to clarify I was not at fault.
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Typerwritermonky said: If I were you, I'd stay the hell away from most drugs really. Start using any possible nerve tonic growths we know of that are scientifically backed - such as beta-glucans from Lions Mane mushrooms, Vitamin B series, anti-inflammatory substances as well will help a lot.
Your best hope is to just wait for your body to find new nerve paths and supplementing whatever you can that actually works will assist in this process. Eventually your body and brain will forge new nerve paths that will help the errant firing of nerves.
It won't ever be perfect again, but it'll get to a new homeostasis. I've had so many nerve injuries and they've traumatized me, they are the only thing that scares me.
But of my nerve injuries, two healed entirely, one is about 85% healed a year later, and the last I don't think the nerves on the right side of my mouth and cheek will ever be perfect and I'll always have a slightly crooked smile. So be it.
Thanks for sharing this. After smoking weed and seeing how that reacted with my body, I'm not touching anything psychoactive for a while, I did have unrelated shoulder surgery after all of this happened, and the Oxycontin they perscribed me was fine, didn't cause any weird symptoms, if anything it temporarily made everything better, so it seems to just be stuff like coffe, nic and weed.
I'm wishing you the best of luck on your recovery! I understand now how tough it can be, escpecially since it sounds like you have multiple injurys, stay strong!
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
#28566559 - 12/03/23 10:17 AM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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So first, I have not tried LSD. But I been going trough a lot of shrooms the last year, and yes I got a spinal cord injury c1/c2 after an accident at work. What I wanted to say is that I have not felt any different than anyone in here are explaining, I need to take more due to my extensive medicine list. And I dont get so much visuals but sometimes I get them 😊
But if 200 is an average dose 1400 should be an ego death dose for sure? LSD is on my list but not that easily to come across where I live or in my circles. I don't even know anyone near me doing magic mushrooms, only one I heard about was the fater of my sons girlfriend. Who has also been in an accident.
So glad you cared to share your story, LSD and DMT is on my list to come across in the future. Been wondering about ordering it, but only domestically.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Shromolo] 1
#28567759 - 12/04/23 02:38 AM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Something like 75-100 micrograms is an average dose. 200 mics is already a strong trip from what I hear. 400 mics is hectic. I’d say ego death can occur on as little as 100 probably, definitely by the 200 mark. 1400 is just a crazy ridiculous dosage lol.
You can lose the ego while sober for short periods if you concentrate, it’s a kind of stubbornly persistent illusion.
Sorry to hear of your pain OP.
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Bardy]
#28567871 - 12/04/23 06:52 AM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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a smart friend said this:
"Yes, wild, really kind of hard to realize that all injuries, memories, etc. anywhere in the body remain in the form of neurons and cell collections that were formed for that purpose, but are sensibly ignored by the healthy body. It's all the wilder when you hear that these slumbering systems can be raised back into consciousness through such a dosage"
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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric] 1
#28570226 - 12/05/23 05:09 PM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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I mean like a year or two after the injury while healing that whole time, that is when you can start doing things like LSD and Ketamine bodywork and you can make huge leaps with nerve injuries with that. I had bells palsy on the right side of my face; it all drooped. One time while meditating on the muscles in that area while on LSD and Anasket brand ketamine I felt a zap and the muscles went back into place around my eye and eyebrow. Most of my nose and cheek too, especially over time. Now you can't tell if you look at me, but if I smile real wide you can then tell a bit.
So I would say after a year or two post injury, psychedelics can offer a massive road to healing when the body hits roadblocks. Of course opiates made it feel temporarily better, they are basically a cure all for the bodys ailments, you just can't take them regularly though.
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I doubt it's the acid
I have a really shitty back
Taking like, 50ug of acid kills all my back pain
Taking more just gives me more side effects, but never pain. Usually I end up not noticing that I am leaning on something that would normally cause me discomfort, but my nerves get more numb on Lucy
I think it's because I have fibromyalgia, and the lsd is doing something there
The only thing the highest dose I ever took did to me, was just to motivate me to work harder in college
It didn't really pay off, but I learned a lot more
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