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Where does motivation come from?
    #28560465 - 11/29/23 08:38 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

I find myself at a crossroads after everything fell apart. Its amazing, a really clear change in life chapters, could go in any direction it seems.

How do you find direction, inspiration, motivation, passion ? how do you decide what matters? whats important?


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Freedom] * 1
    #28560533 - 11/29/23 09:59 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

According to all those self-help books they made us read in HS, motivation, direction, inspiration, and passion all come from action.
Any action, doesn't even matter. Do something, and you'll figure out the whys and hows later.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Freedom]
    #28560585 - 11/29/23 10:35 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

Write down what is important to you. Sift through your list and filter out the top things. And start working on them.
Part of motivation is being sick of your current situation and desiring something different.
Create your own story.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Freedom] * 1
    #28560608 - 11/29/23 11:06 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

Motivation is overrated. Determination is more important. Watch the end of a marathon race. Nobody is smiling or feeling passionate. Everybody is going through pure hell. It is agony. Why do they keep going? I think it is because they already started something and it will feel better to finish than to quit.

I recognize that you may not mean running but I believe the example illustrates what stubb mentioned, action is important. Is there anything you will feel good about? Learning a language? Completing a degree? Playing a musical instrument?

Finding out what matters is a personal matter. What would you like to have? Money? A new car? A new skill? New knowledge? Your own business?..... This is something you should do for how it makes you feel  when you accomplish your goal. Don't look for approval from others, don't try to please others at the expense of your own happiness. If what you decide to do gives you a good feeling and it  pleases others that's a win win situation. But your primary goal should be self realization, not external approval (we often measure success based on societal expectations rather than self realization).

You are important. What you can do and what gives you satisfaction is important.  It goes without saying that you should try activities that are productive and make you feel proud of yourself once you look back and see how much you have progressed.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Freedom]
    #28560627 - 11/29/23 11:23 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

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Freedom said:
I find myself at a crossroads after everything fell apart. Its amazing, a really clear change in life chapters, could go in any direction it seems.

How do you find direction, inspiration, motivation, passion ? how do you decide what matters? whats important?



direction,
---------> you are already pointed in a direction, and by virtue of context , recency(what you have been up to in the last few minutes), and underlying familiarity(all memory), you keep on headed where you have been headed as it reflexively appeals to you - the movements and any changes in direction are mixed in with those reflex perceptions.

inspiration,
---------> the breath, prana, pneuma, informs inspiration, how you breathe, when you breath, and with what or whom you synchronize your breathing increases your readiness to act with some bouyancy.

motivation,
---------> like direction, I would say that your motivation or background history is already in place, altering motivation in nature or intensity involves analysis, application and practice of routines that work in the direction of motivity.

passion,
---------> attention and interest (is there really any difference) when sustained, produces  an emotional state (jhana?) and that is the essence of passion, often it is a sudden surge, especially when needs have not been met (in some direction) for a long time.

how do you decide what matters?
---------> you don't decide, you already know, you may have to review what you know, but your decision has already been embedded in you disposition as a personality: if out of touch, get in touch with your feelings on the matter. you already know, but may need to find out how you feel. Take the time to do this.

whats important?
---------> in each context something will pop out at you, this however may just be your defenses detecting a movement or changed and often that can be threatening, but also it could be fantastic, as in growth and development of a long awaited fruit. Besides what is changing, and besides what you have recently been doing, you may need to consider other aspects, such as other people's needs, feelings, and the likely long range impact of what is important - so in government, if it is not obvious, the right thing to do is to have a study made.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Freedom]
    #28560667 - 11/29/23 12:05 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

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Freedom said:
I find myself at a crossroads after everything fell apart. Its amazing, a really clear change in life chapters, could go in any direction it seems.

How do you find direction, inspiration, motivation, passion ? how do you decide what matters? whats important?




I'll suggest a 24-36 hour water fast. It can provide clarity.

Use lite salt in the water (50/50 sodium/potassium).

Even if you don't find answers, you'll probably feel fantastic the next day.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Freedom] * 1
    #28560911 - 11/29/23 02:58 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Quote:

Freedom said:
I find myself at a crossroads after everything fell apart. Its amazing, a really clear change in life chapters, could go in any direction it seems.

How do you find direction, inspiration, motivation, passion ? how do you decide what matters? whats important?




I think motivation follows from a certain threshold of certainty for value. For instance, if I don't stop at this light, I'm certain to increase my chance of a consequence. Could I run through a red light without consequence? Sure. And there may be instances where I'm sure enough that it's worth it. But most of the time it's fairly certain to increase the odds of a consequence happening with no reward. So it's motivating to stop. I don't have to find the motivation to stop because the threshold of certainty around value is already met. The motivation follows that threshold being met. 

When there is uncertainty it is difficult. Some people are very certain in ways I am uncertain and so motivated in ways I am not. And I am very certain in ways others are uncertain and so I'm motivated in ways they are not. I'm not sure one can force themselves to be more certain. But it seems to me that in many cases one may intellectually know an expected outcome, but much more certainty arises when experiencing the outcome first hand. 

I would counter with this question to you Freedom:
Where does a lack of motivation come from?


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Kickle]
    #28561039 - 11/29/23 04:55 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

please do not drive stoned


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Freedom]
    #28564563 - 12/01/23 10:46 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

In exploring the nature of motivation, it's crucial to consider the role of anticipation of qualitative benefits as its precursor. Before we can build motivation, we must first understand what we are motivated towards. This begins with anticipation, which can be seen as the expectation or hope that a specific action or behavior will lead to a positive or rewarding outcome. However, it's also important to address the scenario where the anticipated benefit isn't met by our actions and how this impacts our motivational process.

The foundational premise here is that motivation is enhanced by the anticipation of qualitative benefits. This means that when an individual (human or otherwise) expects a positive outcome from an action, they are more motivated to engage in that action. This expectation acts as a driving force. If we accept that motivation is enhanced by or is a result of the anticipation of qualitative benefits, then motivation can be seen as a point of reference that resonates with the idea of qualitative benefit. In this context, motivation can be conceptualised as an indicator or marker that aligns with the expected positive outcomes.

When we anticipate a qualitative benefit, our motivation to take action is naturally heightened. This is where the development of a positive feedback loop comes into play. When individuals anticipate a positive outcome, they are encouraged to take action towards achieving that outcome. Engaging in the activity and experiencing the anticipated benefit reinforces the belief that the action is worthwhile, boosting their motivation. This forms a self-reinforcing cycle: anticipation leads to action, action leads to realisation of benefits, and this realisation then heightens further anticipation.

This positive feedback loop drives motivation through engagement. Enhanced motivation is essentially the increased willingness and drive to perform an action, spurred by positive experiences or outcomes. This enhanced state of motivation leads to greater engagement with the task, characterised by more focus, energy, and persistence.

But what happens if the anticipated result is not achieved? This is a critical juncture in the motivational process. The lack of expected results doesn't lead to a dead end; rather, it becomes a valuable learning experience.

The unmet anticipation leads to introspection and reassessment. The experience gained, even in the absence of the desired outcome, contributes significantly to our future motivation. We start to adjust our strategies and expectations based on this new understanding. This iterative process is crucial. It signifies that motivation is not static; it evolves through a continuous cycle of anticipation, action, evaluation, and adaptation.

Enhanced motivation, therefore, is not just about achieving desired outcomes but also about engaging with the process of learning from unachieved ones. This enhanced state often results in greater engagement with tasks, marked by increased focus, energy, and persistence, even when facing setbacks.

It's essential to clarify the relationship between anticipation of qualitative benefit and motivation. Anticipation of qualitative benefits is a precursor that triggers the motivation process, whereas motivation itself is the state influenced by this anticipation.

To clarify, anticipation of qualitative benefits is more than just a trigger for motivation; it's the foundation upon which the motivational structure is built. Motivation is the dynamic state that is influenced by both the fulfillment and non-fulfillment of these anticipations. In essence, anticipation is the spark, motivation is the flame, and adaptation is the fuel that keeps it burning.

This conceptual framework can be neatly summarised in the following if-then conditionals:

Quote:

IF there is an anticipation of qualitative benefit,
THEN motivation to engage in a particular behavior or action increases,
AND IF the anticipated result is not achieved,
THEN the experience gained in the process contributes to future anticipation and motivation,
AND this leads to an adjustment of strategies and expectations in future similar situations,
RESULTING IN a continuous cycle of learning and adaptation.




This framework helps us understand that motivation is not just an isolated emotional state but a dynamic and evolving process driven by our anticipations, shaped by our experiences, and refined by our capacity to adapt and learn.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: sudly]
    #28564687 - 12/02/23 02:34 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Consider this little write-up I did for my close group of friends (they're traders and poker players). This is now the lens through which I think of motivation and it perfectly explains where it comes from!

We're talking about the 5 pillars of intrinsic motivation, not external contributors too btw.

If you ever wake up feeling unmotivated to get your work done, read this!

I’m sharing this quick summary with you guys because I think each of you will find it fascinating just as I did.

Now If I ever don’t feel like doing the work that needs to be done, I just look at things through this filter and know exactly what the issue that needs to be resolved is.

There’s 5 types of intrinsic motivation you need to become an unstoppable work machine:

1. Curiosity - This one’s obvious. How interested are you in the subject? Curiosity in its highest form is less about wanting to know about something, but more needing to find out.

Think about all those hands you have tagged to sim later - you almost NEED to know the answer.

2. Mastery - This is also obvious and relatable for us all. It’s the desire to be elite at something.

There’s a guy who very successfully grinds 25NL professionally in Slovenia 10 hours a day.

This guy clearly isn’t motivated by mastering poker, and is happy not being elite.

Someone like Lucas on the other hand is very strongly driven by mastery.

3. Audicity - This refers to ‘how driven you are to do the thing purely for enjoyment’.
When there’s no deadlines, no contracts, and no boss telling you to do something, how interested are you in actually doing the thing?

A great test for this is ‘how often do you crave doing the thing when you’re not doing it?’.

Both poker players and traders probably have very high levels of this type of motivation.

I know whenever I tried playing 6 days a week and forcing myself to have a day off, I’d almost always find myself craving to play poker on that day off.

When I started writing articles full time, audicity was definitely still there, but it was much more sporadic.

4. Purpose - Does the work I do have an obvious purpose attached to it? Is that a purpose I can get behind and feel good pouring my life force into? What kind of impact on the world does the work have?

This was one I personally really struggled with playing poker and same applied for the idea of trading.

Let’s call a spade a spade here, there is nothing inherently beneficial to the world about playing poker or trading full time.

In the world of lead generation, at least I could say that I’m helping small businesses grow by solving a problem for them.

While that is definitely a positive thing, and by all means a worthy enough ends for one to dedicate their lives to, for me personally it’s not exactly a particularly grandiose purpose, and doesn’t have the kind of massive positive impact on the world I’d like to have.

It’s interesting, at the start of my poker career I couldn’t really care less about whether what I was doing was contributing to the greater good in the world, but as I’ve recently become a lot more woo woo/spiritual, for lack of a better word, I’m almost completely motivated by purpose now.

But to the poker players and traders out there, it’s possible to inject a sense of purpose into your work by:
Teaching other people how to play/trade (as long as the value exchange is genuine, and not you just straight up scamming people *cough*forflies*cough*)
Playing the One Drop
I can’t really think of anything else lol

The point is, you can modify your work to improve various aspects of these 5 pillars of intrinsic motivation (only if you struggle with motivation obv).

5. Autonomy - This one is also obvious. Do you get to do what you want, when you want, and are you fully in control of your work?

If you have a boss or work with clients who are telling you what to do, you don’t have as much autonomy as the Poker player who can sit down and play whenever they want.

Also note that cash players tend to have A LOT more autonomy than the McCully’s of the world who don’t actually have much in the way of time freedom because of the gruelling MTT schedule.

Traders have high autonomy also - you’re in complete control of the trades you do take, but sometimes you might have to wake up early or stay up late like the tourney player does.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Heroic Dosage]
    #28564739 - 12/02/23 04:46 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

both interesting,
for me curiosity is definitely number one.
restoring curiosity is number 2.
reasoning and logic are number 0 i.e it must be be done in advance and offline.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Heroic Dosage]
    #28564745 - 12/02/23 05:00 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Do you view motivation as a static force that remains constant once these pillars are in place, or do you see it as a more dynamic and evolving process that changes over time?

In my initial comment, I emphasised the evolving nature of motivation, influenced by anticipation, experiences, and the continuous recalibration of strategies and expectations. I'd be interested to hear how you think these concepts of change and adaptation might or might not fit within your framework, especially given the varied and often unpredictable nature of activities like trading and poker.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: sudly]
    #28564805 - 12/02/23 06:30 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

evolving:
like hundreds of elves working on a huge multifunction ship according to needs of many while the captain slowly steers.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28564830 - 12/02/23 06:55 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

It's unquestionably evolving.

I'm a great example of this: here's how I personally weight the importance of each of the 5 pillars CURRENTLY:

1. Purpose
2. Autonomy
3. Curiosity
4. Audicity
5. Mastery

When I began my career as a professional poker player 8 years ago, it was this:

1. Autonomy
2. Mastery
3. Curiosity
4. Audicity
5. Purpose

As you can see, purpose went from being the least important to most important driver for me.

Something about sitting in a casino every night, exploiting drunkards with gambling problems, always felt like it was lacking an aspect of "contributing something to the world".

But back then I was just looking out for myself.

I wanted to be great, and to have a massive legacy, and had a massive chip on my shoulder.

I cared somewhat about bringing value to other people, at least conceptually, but didn't care enough until I had proven myself in my career.

Fast forward 8 years and I've:
- Had mystical experiences that showed me we're all merely nodes belonging to the same entity and that the concept of wanting to leave a legacy is driven purely by ego, and that meaningful change in the world is what actually matters, not that you receive credit for it, because I am you, you are me, and we are everyone.
- Gone from hard-nosed atheist to about as woo woo as they come.
- Also solved my 'not having money' problem.

So now I can't stand the idea of doing 'work' that doesn't have some large impact beyond myself. And I'm perfectly okay with receiving zero recognition for any of that work, so long as that positive impact is achieved.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Heroic Dosage] * 1
    #28564870 - 12/02/23 07:34 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

I think your five pillars model offers a structured and practical approach to understanding intrinsic motivators in specific contexts like trading and poker. However, while the pillars – Curiosity, Mastery, Audacity, Purpose, and Autonomy – are key drivers, they present a somewhat fixed framework. Motivation, as we seem to agree, in its essence, is much more fluid and dynamic, continually reshaped by our personal experiences, growth, and changing life circumstances. The significance we place on each pillar can shift dramatically over time, reflecting the ongoing evolution of our priorities and goals, as exemplified by the change in your own motivational drivers, where 'Purpose' shifted from being the least to the most important driver for you.

Additionally, this static model might not fully encapsulate the complex interplay of external factors with these intrinsic motivators. Real-world motivation is influenced by a myriad of elements beyond internal desires, including environmental conditions, emotional states, and psychological changes. Thus, while your pillars may provide valuable insights, they might not capture the full adaptive and multi-faceted nature of motivation.

In contrast, I think my perspective delves deeper into the psychological underpinnings of motivation. It explores cognitive processes like anticipation, feedback loops, and strategy adaptability, offering what I would consider a more dynamic and comprehensive view. This approach views motivation as an evolving process, driven by our anticipations, experiences, and continual adaptation to new situations and learnings.

While your pillars approach can be insightful in particular scenarios, it may not adequately address the broader, adaptable nature of motivation. My aim is to present a more generalised understanding, applicable across various life contexts, emphasising motivation as a complex, adaptive psychological process. This perspective acknowledges that motivation is not a static emotional state but a dynamic and evolving force, shaped by an intricate mix of internal and external factors.


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Freedom] * 2
    #28564882 - 12/02/23 07:46 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Enjoying your comments on this thread
Everyones


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Kickle]
    #28565152 - 12/02/23 11:36 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Quote:

stubb said:
According to all those self-help books they made us read in HS, motivation, direction, inspiration, and passion all come from action.
Any action, doesn't even matter. Do something, and you'll figure out the whys and hows later.





I can see this in some ways, like once you jump into the fray it becomes natural to respond, once you've established a game that works its easy to play


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Motivation is overrated. Determination is more important. Watch the end of a marathon race. Nobody is smiling or feeling passionate. Everybody is going through pure hell. It is agony. Why do they keep going? I think it is because they already started something and it will feel better to finish than to quit.






I love long distance running. I love being at the end of  a long race pushing into the discomfort, giving every last drop.

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direction,
---------> you are already pointed in a direction, and by virtue of context , recency(what you have been up to in the last few minutes), and underlying familiarity(all memory), you keep on headed where you have been headed as it reflexively appeals to you - the movements and any changes in direction are mixed in with those reflex perceptions.

inspiration,
---------> the breath, prana, pneuma, informs inspiration, how you breathe, when you breath, and with what or whom you synchronize your breathing increases your readiness to act with some bouyancy.

motivation,
---------> like direction, I would say that your motivation or background history is already in place, altering motivation in nature or intensity involves analysis, application and practice of routines that work in the direction of motivity.

passion,
---------> attention and interest (is there really any difference) when sustained, produces  an emotional state (jhana?) and that is the essence of passion, often it is a sudden surge, especially when needs have not been met (in some direction) for a long time.

how do you decide what matters?
---------> you don't decide, you already know, you may have to review what you know, but your decision has already been embedded in you disposition as a personality: if out of touch, get in touch with your feelings on the matter. you already know, but may need to find out how you feel. Take the time to do this.

whats important?
---------> in each context something will pop out at you, this however may just be your defenses detecting a movement or changed and often that can be threatening, but also it could be fantastic, as in growth and development of a long awaited fruit. Besides what is changing, and besides what you have recently been doing, you may need to consider other aspects, such as other people's needs, feelings, and the likely long range impact of what is important - so in government, if it is not obvious, the right thing to do is to have a study made.




your reflection helps me see I'm just going through a bit of a paradigm shift, and its natural for that to be confusing in some ways

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sudly said:
In exploring the nature of motivation, it's crucial to consider the role of anticipation of qualitative benefits as its precursor. Before we can build motivation, we must first understand what we are motivated towards. This begins with anticipation, which can be seen as the expectation or hope that a specific action or behavior will lead to a positive or rewarding outcome. However, it's also important to address the scenario where the anticipated benefit isn't met by our actions and how this impacts our motivational process.

The foundational premise here is that motivation is enhanced by the anticipation of qualitative benefits. This means that when an individual (human or otherwise) expects a positive outcome from an action, they are more motivated to engage in that action. This expectation acts as a driving force. If we accept that motivation is enhanced by or is a result of the anticipation of qualitative benefits, then motivation can be seen as a point of reference that resonates with the idea of qualitative benefit. In this context, motivation can be conceptualised as an indicator or marker that aligns with the expected positive outcomes.

When we anticipate a qualitative benefit, our motivation to take action is naturally heightened. This is where the development of a positive feedback loop comes into play. When individuals anticipate a positive outcome, they are encouraged to take action towards achieving that outcome. Engaging in the activity and experiencing the anticipated benefit reinforces the belief that the action is worthwhile, boosting their motivation. This forms a self-reinforcing cycle: anticipation leads to action, action leads to realisation of benefits, and this realisation then heightens further anticipation.

This positive feedback loop drives motivation through engagement. Enhanced motivation is essentially the increased willingness and drive to perform an action, spurred by positive experiences or outcomes. This enhanced state of motivation leads to greater engagement with the task, characterised by more focus, energy, and persistence.

But what happens if the anticipated result is not achieved? This is a critical juncture in the motivational process. The lack of expected results doesn't lead to a dead end; rather, it becomes a valuable learning experience.

The unmet anticipation leads to introspection and reassessment. The experience gained, even in the absence of the desired outcome, contributes significantly to our future motivation. We start to adjust our strategies and expectations based on this new understanding. This iterative process is crucial. It signifies that motivation is not static; it evolves through a continuous cycle of anticipation, action, evaluation, and adaptation.

Enhanced motivation, therefore, is not just about achieving desired outcomes but also about engaging with the process of learning from unachieved ones. This enhanced state often results in greater engagement with tasks, marked by increased focus, energy, and persistence, even when facing setbacks.

It's essential to clarify the relationship between anticipation of qualitative benefit and motivation. Anticipation of qualitative benefits is a precursor that triggers the motivation process, whereas motivation itself is the state influenced by this anticipation.

To clarify, anticipation of qualitative benefits is more than just a trigger for motivation; it's the foundation upon which the motivational structure is built. Motivation is the dynamic state that is influenced by both the fulfillment and non-fulfillment of these anticipations. In essence, anticipation is the spark, motivation is the flame, and adaptation is the fuel that keeps it burning.

This conceptual framework can be neatly summarised in the following if-then conditionals:

Quote:

IF there is an anticipation of qualitative benefit,
THEN motivation to engage in a particular behavior or action increases,
AND IF the anticipated result is not achieved,
THEN the experience gained in the process contributes to future anticipation and motivation,
AND this leads to an adjustment of strategies and expectations in future similar situations,
RESULTING IN a continuous cycle of learning and adaptation.




This framework helps us understand that motivation is not just an isolated emotional state but a dynamic and evolving process driven by our anticipations, shaped by our experiences, and refined by our capacity to adapt and learn.




Thanks for spelling that all out, one thing I realize in reading it is that I've become quite a lazy writer.

It sounds like using negative and positive feedback loops, like a natural process of homeostasis. A couple things stand out from your model. First the anticipatory process is creative, imaginative and therefore practically unlimited. Second the learning and adaptation depend on measuring the outcome, and so the method used to measure becomes important.


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I would counter with this question to you Freedom:
Where does a lack of motivation come from?




For me currently it seems to relate to a reshaping of my understanding of life, a deeper understanding of impermenance and interconnection, of ungraspability creating a shift in how i realte to the world which i don't understand or hasn't even formed yet


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Freedom]
    #28565181 - 12/02/23 11:57 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Where does motivation come from? [Re: Kickle]
    #28566029 - 12/02/23 09:55 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

To clarify, my 5 pillars only cover the aspect of intrinsic motivation, which is most but not all of the story.

Extrinsic motivation such as MONEY is a pretty good motivator too!


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