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Beefs Beefy Tub Tek 24
#28558116 - 11/27/23 09:07 AM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Spawning The Beefy Tub
So I guess I spawn a little differently and I thought Id make a quick tek for my method because I've had such great success with it. I've picked up a few little tricks and tools over the years to make the job a lot cleaner and easier as well. I like a thicc substrate. I find that thicker substrates yield much better and have a greater propensity to flush multiple times. I use Pasty's Ez Dial Monotubs. I really like these sterilite 16 quart tubs. As with my other teks, I've included a lot of visuals. Some things are just easier done than said. I realize there are many threads for spawning a tub but I still see so many poorly prepared subs. Why does it matter? Because inconsistently prepared substrates yield inconsistent results. Also, a lot spawning of teks are combo teks. This tek is meant to be a stripped down and highly visual guide that assumes you already know how to develop clean spawn and prepare coir to field capacity. If you don't, you can find this information in the hitchhikers guide linked in my signature. My ratio is technically 1:4, doubled. For brevity its easier to just say 2:8. Please don't lecture me on the mathematical syntax--Im aware of it. But then, I also pseudo-case my tubs with an additional 2 quarts, so maybe my ratio is 2:10? Who gives a shit? Its beefy. It works great. Lets get into it. Materials: A bucket of prepped coir. I only add dry verm if I fucked up my field capacity and added too much water. This will soak up additional water but verm is otherwise purposeless. Two quarts of clean spawn. A Mid sized tub with a gasket seal and snap-locks for mixing the ingredients. A rubber tile float. A clean quart jar for measuring. No, I don't use liners. Ill get to that. A pair of clean nitrile or latex gloves. Its not necessary in terms of sanitation, but I don't like getting coir under my fingernails.  1. Break up your spawn and dump it in the mixing tub. I personally bash it on my thigh but you can use a phone book or a tire or the corpse of your enemies.  2. Break up any remaining clump with your pink little mits.  3. Dump 8 quarts of coir (or Coir/verm) into the mixing tub. Heres what a quart of coir should look like. I don't pack it but I do fill it and shake it gently to settle.  yyyep. Its a lot of coir.  4. Shake it just as you would a new born baby.  5. Pour the contents of the mixing tub into the monotub.  6. Now for the tile float. I use this to level and compress the substrate. I like this one as the length happens to be the exact width of the tub.  Take your time. Do a good job. Don't pack with all your might, just be firm and pay special attention to the edges. I find that if I pack the edges well, I don't get sidepins at all and I don't need a liner. I see a lot of new growers skipping this step and go into their grow with a choppy looking loose substrate. This is a mistake. It will invariably cause inconsistencies in your surface conditions and make for a shitty pinset. Pits and low spots tend to pool water which causes myc-mat and matted myc just won't pin for shit, and besides, its ugly.  7. Pseudo casing time. This technique was deveoped by Stipe-n Cap and has many benefits I won't get into but you should read his tek and you should pseudocase all your grows. I add two more quarts of coir on top of the leveled and compressed substrate and spread it out as best I can with my hand.  8. Level and compress again with the tile float. Same as before. Make it pretty. Don't leave coir all stuck to the sides of the tub. Do it like you actually like yourself.  Thats it. Your very own ez dial Beefy Tub. I don't use micropore. I just set it and forget it until its time to monitor surface conditions. If you're not familiar with that concept you need to read about it. I don't allow the walls or the lid to drip onto my sub. You can wipe the walls dry with a paper towel if that starts to happen or shake the lid dry. No, opening your tub won't contaminate it. The spawning process isn't even close to sanitary and that entire concept needs to go away like a bad dream. Voila.  Pretty. Notice that the substrate on this one was prepared with verm and the top layer is straight coir. It wasn't deliberate but it does show the top-layer depth.      Really wish I had taken a picture of this ghost tub before I started harvesting. I got excited.  
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Nice contribution Beef!
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Nice tubs, beef.
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Polished write up for polished tubs.
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Baba Yaga] 1
#28558142 - 11/27/23 09:51 AM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Hello Mr BeefSupremeJr. This is a really great write up. With all the pics and gif it is very clear and informative.
My congratulations you nailed it
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Traveled]
#28558145 - 11/27/23 09:55 AM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Very nice and perfectly explained, with no more and no less than what is actually best to do. Perfect
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Traveled]
#28558146 - 11/27/23 09:57 AM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Thanks for another great writeup Beef! What will he think of next folks. Always entertaining also.
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meta_mmxxii said: Thanks for another great writeup Beef! What will he think of next folks. Always entertaining also.
I'm hoping for Beefy's Super Weight-loss Tek.
Good stuff, Beef! Will def use some info from here.
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How many flushes do you get, Beef?
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You're trying to mess with my head, Beef. You start with the 16 quart tubs, and then you finish with 20 quart tubs.
My brain is fragile right now. 60 grams fresh of Nats tore my brain up.
Some notes -
- It might be good to fully link "Pasty's Ez Dial Monotubs" since you don't re-explain the hole setup. - I think it takes less effort to mix up sub/spawn with your hands than it does to pick up however many pounds of sub and shake it. Just saying. - I use gloves for prep too, but I don't like waste. I started using reusable rubber kitchen gloves for prep. It's an option that works.
Anyway, thanks for another great write-up.
EDIT - Added link
Edited by Kinoko314 (12/01/23 09:31 AM)
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Kinoko314]
#28558284 - 11/27/23 12:08 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Kinoko314 said: You're trying to mess with my head, Beef. You start with the 16 quart tubs, and then you finish with 20 quart tubs.
My brain is fragile right now. 60 grams fresh of Nats tore my brain up.
Some notes -
- It might be good to fully link "Pasty's Ez Dial Monotubs" since you don't re-explain the hole setup. - I think it takes less effort to mix up sub/spawn with your hands than it does to pick up however many pounds of sub and shake it. Just saying. - I use gloves for prep too, but I don't like waste. I started using reusable rubber kitchen gloves for prep. It's an option that works.
Anyway, thanks for another great write-up.
nooo the mixing tub is 20q i think. the finished tubs are 16.
thats a goodly dose, but thank you for reading kinoko
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The level sub really makes the difference. These animations are great beef. Fantastic!
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elasticaltiger said: The level sub really makes the difference. These animations are great beef. Fantastic!
thank you. Im a highly visual learner so i tend to teach how i learn.
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thank you. Im a highly visual learner so i tend to teach how i learn.
I really appreciated the side shot of the pseudocasing layer, 1 or 2 inches in words isn't something I could readily visualize.
Have you thought about brick laying? Your skills are pretty excellent
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: DuderTudor] 2
#28558326 - 11/27/23 12:35 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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I appreciated all the crotch shots.
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thank you. Im a highly visual learner so i tend to teach how i learn.
I really appreciated the side shot of the pseudocasing layer, 1 or 2 inches in words isn't something I could readily visualize. never done brick.
Have you thought about brick laying? Your skills are pretty excellent 
ive done a lot of tile, concete, drywall, landscaping.
the tub i showed was not my best work but i thought it was a good diagram.
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BeefSupremeJr said: nooo the mixing tub is 20q i think. the finished tubs are 16.
thats a goodly dose, but thank you for reading kinoko
I'm now realizing that there is a 16 qt and a 20 qt that are almost identical. I think that's why I'm confused.
So you're definitely using the 16 qt? I have some of the 20 qt ones, but either way your tek should work fine.
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Kinoko314]
#28558344 - 11/27/23 12:56 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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yep. I actually couldn't find the Walmart 16 quart like I really like last time I was shopping and I settled for these target 16 quart. They aren't as tall that it should be fine. None of my cultures are particularly tall
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Kinoko314]
#28558527 - 11/27/23 04:14 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Kinoko314 said: My brain is fragile right now. 60 grams fresh of Nats tore my brain up.
Thatโs insane!
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The tile float is a game changer, kicking myself that I've never thought of this.
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Womble] 1
#28558586 - 11/27/23 05:08 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Beautiful!
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theodor said: How many flushes do you get, Beef?
this is totally contingent on the variety. Some varieties suck the sub dry and you'll only get one big flush, a second smaller one if you're lucky. My 'classic' cubes tend to get 2 big flushes and a 3rd. I could probably get more but I don't really waste the time and space. I live for canopies.
Semps put out a massive first flush and barely shrunk the sub. It appears to be hammering out a second massive flush as we speak and according to CB, he gets up to NINE FLUSHES on semps. Totally wild.
PE tends to make blobs the first flush and then second flush will yield some good dongs. Third flush is possible with enough water. (enough beef)
FP+ and other prolific pinners tend to strip the sub bare of water in one or two flushes and the third isn't worth waiting for even if you try to re-hydrate.
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Kinoko314 said: My brain is fragile right now. 60 grams fresh of Nats tore my brain up.
Thatโs insane!
Yeah wow I ate 2 tiny ones recently from my outdoor patch during a BBQ & was seriously high.
Got me wondering about the amount of potency / tryptamine loss after drying & how to minimise..
Cool tek, Beef. I'll be giving it a go for sure in a couple weeks.
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: stockw]
#28559553 - 11/28/23 02:47 PM (1 month, 29 days ago) |
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Thank you!
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Benson]
#28560038 - 11/28/23 08:09 PM (1 month, 29 days ago) |
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Thanks for another great post beef! I was trying to find info on this in pastys EZ dial post but it seems appropriate so I'll just ask here, can you write the exact holes you made for an ez dial monotub this size? Pastys post mainly focuses on very large( in my opinion) 66qt tubs, but I want more like a shoebox size ez dial tub. Here are the dimensions on the box I want to spawn in, any advice would be great!
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Kroxx]
#28560071 - 11/28/23 08:28 PM (1 month, 29 days ago) |
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ohhh just three holes down the sides about an inch above the sub-line. five on the ends about an inch below the top. 1/4". heat your bit up red hot before drilling..
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Nice writeup! Certainly makes a nice even tub.
Just wanted to mention the community developed the use of a top layer, stipe just put it in a writeup with a bunch of other good info.
I love the use of a tub to mix spawn, can't believe I never though of that. Great idea!
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BeefSupremeJr said: heat your bit up red hot before drilling
 this hurts the drill bit's soul
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You can use a nail head instead. It's about the right size
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I like it but it could use just a tad bit more beef.
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Gotcha, so it sounds like you make it the same as pastys post. I didn't know if the smaller size tub would need to be dialed differently compared to the larger ones. Thank you for confirming!
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Got myself a cheapo tile float at Dollarama after reading this. Man it makes for a nice even tub. Let's see how these Nats respond.
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Huskies]
#28563521 - 12/01/23 09:39 AM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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I use a digital soldering iron and set it for 433F, it is hot enough to melt the plastic but not so hot it makes tons of smoke. The holes look nicer too.
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I usually use a soldering iron too, but it does make fair bit of smoke. At least it smells quite a bit. I should do that in the garage, but I usually just double up on good N95 masks and try not to leave plastic on the soldering iron tip to burn.
I've recently found that even a gentle heating of a drill bit is enough to get it through the plastic easily. I may stick to this method in the future.
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What right do you have making coir compression so damn hot?!
Yowza!
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You horndog.
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Mmmph. Heโs a total BABE and can compress me anytime 
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Wow. I have been using a 20 liter tub with 2 quarts spawn and 3 quarts coir with a quart for a psuedo casing last run. Before that i was using 1:2 ratio with no casing layer. Interestlingly this was the first time my APE didnt blob on the first flush. I never dreamed of using such high ratio. Makes sense I guess. That would hold a lot of water. Will definitely give this a run. How were the colonisation times? Cheers.
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depends on variety. i have a yeti spawned 11/18 and i saw pins at 12/2.
classic cubes faster than that
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What right do you have making coir compression so damn hot?!
Yowza! 
haha. good gravy. hey what if we did a shroomery calender? i wanna see mr June (smelly hobbit) in a speedo.
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How do I preorder? TAKE MY MF MONEY!
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: sillysyban] 1
#28569569 - 12/05/23 09:23 AM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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sillysyban said: Wow. I have been using a 20 liter tub with 2 quarts spawn and 3 quarts coir with a quart for a psuedo casing last run. Before that i was using 1:2 ratio with no casing layer. Interestlingly this was the first time my APE didnt blob on the first flush. I never dreamed of using such high ratio. Makes sense I guess. That would hold a lot of water. Will definitely give this a run. How were the colonisation times? Cheers.
2 quarts spawn to 4 quarts sub is a 1:2 ratio...
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ATTN: Beef & Mommy
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Yes. I guess I was just trying to point out that the casing layer made a huge difference for me in results between tubs with the same ratio.
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I have about 2 pounds of ready for soil; gonna try the 1 to 4 ratio out. Got a nice size tub ready for it.
Excellent Thread Beef. Thanks Sir.
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Nonagon] 1
#28570373 - 12/05/23 06:35 PM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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Nonagon said: ATTN: Beef & Mommy

The fuggin brand. Lolol LUCKY ME indeed
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Hey Beefy, this looks great. Gonna try this on my next tubs.
What I wonder is how on earth you've managed to compress 12qts of material down to what looks like a 5qt slab. I tried with my tile float and some damp coir, but I could at most get it down to about 8qt.
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: edixo]
#28595943 - 12/24/23 12:42 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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It may be due to the tub you are using is made different than the one Beef is using. All tubs are not created equally, unless it is the same brand and capacity. He is also compressing the shit out of the coir. You can only compress coir so much. You will notice if you compress it very hard it will kind of spring back up a tad. So don't worry about too much compression. He also is packing the case just as hard as the sub as well.
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Also not all coir is the same
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: edixo] 1
#28596985 - 12/24/23 07:36 PM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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edixo said: What I wonder is how on earth you've managed to compress 12qts of material down to what looks like a 5qt slab. I tried with my tile float and some damp coir, but I could at most get it down to about 8qt.
Have you tried doing it sexier?!
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This. Iโd try compressing your tubs shirtless and see if it works for you
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Nonagon] 1
#28597591 - 12/25/23 01:50 PM (1 month, 2 days ago) |
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i was literally wearing a long underwear shirt and nitrile gloves how can i live this down????
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I don't think you can, mommy is just a simp 
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BeefSupremeJr said: i was literally wearing a long underwear shirt and nitrile gloves how can i live this down????
Yeeeeeew bb dominate dat sub
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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Lithop]
#28598441 - 12/26/23 09:58 AM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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I can be a complete idiot, but I just followed this with a 2:10 ratio (2 quarts pseudo-casing). I'm using a 16 QT container and packed this shit out of my spawn+bulk. There's only about 5" of room from the sub to lid.
I don't understand how you've fit 12 QTs of sub into a 16 QT container with so much room left. I mean, we've the same volume container and sub. And you even said not to pack with all your might. It's obviously too late for me to change anything, and if I need to I'll adapt to a dub-tub.
I think for my next attempt I'll just do 1:5 per each 16 QT container.
Thanks for the thoroughness btw! gifs are perfect.
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Sweeeeeeet Post. Thanks for the super clear write up and awesome visual aids. I've got two WBS jars that will be colonized soon and this looks like just the ticket for my first tub!!!
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