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Re: Are Liquid Cultures legal to Sell? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #28558520 - 11/27/23 04:02 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

I guess live cultures don't have as much of a "for microscopy use only" fig leaf as spores do. But that seems to matter less and less, anyway.

I feel like the current cannabis situation has really transformed the legal climate. The patchwork of state laws, all existing under federal law which remains absurdly outdated, has created a world where psilocybin is falling through the cracks. Many states already followed a policy of enforcing the law, determining penalties, etc., by treating it the same as cannabis. But as local jurisdictions get further and further away from busting weed grows, and any coordination with federal agencies on cannabis laws, the likelihood is that very few people are paying any attention at all to these new developments in the online marketplace.


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Re: Are Liquid Cultures legal to Sell? [Re: Forager208] * 1
    #28606716 - 01/02/24 07:38 AM (25 days, 14 hours ago)

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A lot of places are selling; however, the legit vendors are not. At best, its a legal gray area. I'm of the opinion, the vendors selling culture if anything, hurt the movement and risk being made an example of in the future.




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What, like this guy they made an example of 20 years ago? He had the audacity to produce and sell spore syringes with instruction booklets, when others were keeping their heads down and only dealing discretely in prints.

If people are actually selling clean and properly developed cultures, I salute them.


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Re: Are Liquid Cultures legal to Sell? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #28611319 - 01/06/24 06:51 AM (21 days, 14 hours ago)

Yes, and we can thank the efforts of people like him, in part, for that change....


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Re: Are Liquid Cultures legal to Sell? [Re: Hobbyist] * 1
    #28621904 - 01/15/24 08:55 AM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

I'm having a hard time imagining anyone in law enforcement in the 21st century going that far down the rabbithole when dealing with liquid cultures. There's also a legal chain-of-custody issue there. Randomly confiscating stuff to test it is not necessarily illegal in all cases, but it's the sort of thing that gets cases thrown out.

You know what's all the rage right now? Pretextual traffic stops that lead to civil asset forfeiture (your money and vehicle aren't innocent until proven guilty, so it's quite lucrative). You know what isn't? Messing with all that hippie shit. Complicated court cases with no political benefit. "Microdose" was one of the answers in my crossword puzzle the other day, clue being "take a little trip?" The current moral panic is mostly centered around Fentanyl and meth, so that's where the action is.

When Psilocybe Fanaticus ended up on the DEA's radar over 20 years ago, they got enough evidence to do a raid by ordering a syringe and following his instructions. He basically taught some DEA agents how to grow mushrooms.


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