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P. natalensis AIO bag grow log
    #28557255 - 11/26/23 01:50 PM (2 months, 17 hours ago)

Hey guys! Just wanted to share another project with you. This was an AIO grow bag bought online from a vendor. I totally understand that these things are overpriced, but I love experimenting and thought I'd give it a shot to see what the fuss was about.

The bag was inoculated with LC from another vendor, risky. I have since cleaned up my practices, but I think it was safe to say that I got lucky and this bag made it.

The bag took a while to show any signs of mycelial growth, but when it did, I noticed that the mycelium was already spreading throughout the bottom, jumping from the birdseed to the bottom of the "substrate layer". I did a controlled break and shake, where I just broke up and mixed the bottom so all the birdseed could colonize first. I waited like a week, and noticed the bottom had fully colonized. This is when I did the full break and shake, and after mixing the contents thoroughly, I tamped it down all around from the outside of the bag. I compressed the substrate so the top was flat and it had a cylindrical shape. This ended up taking only another week to fully colonize. After this, I let it go for another couple days until I saw clusters of mycelium showing up on the sides of the bag. The whole way around was colonized, and the mycelium was THICC, no patches of substrate anywhere. All white. I then proceeded to dunk this cake for 24 hours, then rolled it in vermiculite

This then went into a freshly set up water tub



After 36 hours with the lid closed, the mycelium has grabbed enough of the verm that I started to maintain the surfacy conditions



I am still debating whether or not I should crack the lid, it has some play and I think allows for fae when fully closed, so I think ill leave the lid closed for now, especially if the dew starts shrinking/evaporating

I am overall excited for this cake and hope the strategy of taking it out and rolling in verm pays off vs fruiting it in the bag. Thanks for reading!


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28557257 - 11/26/23 01:51 PM (2 months, 17 hours ago)

you got so lucky nice score! Following this progress


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28557261 - 11/26/23 01:51 PM (2 months, 17 hours ago)



A pic of the surface conditions. Dont know why it was deleted in the first post


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28557263 - 11/26/23 01:52 PM (2 months, 17 hours ago)

beautiful:mushroom2:


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: MaShrooms]
    #28557313 - 11/26/23 02:32 PM (2 months, 17 hours ago)

Excellent job so far. It's always a gamble but it looks like yours may pay off. Good luck! :thumbup:


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Way]
    #28557337 - 11/26/23 02:44 PM (2 months, 16 hours ago)

Quote:

Way said:
Excellent job so far. It's always a gamble but it looks like yours may pay off. Good luck! :thumbup:




Thanks Way! :grin:

I've put this same LC on agar and cleaned it up. It is doing well now.

Is it worth keeping if this goes well? Or should I just start fresh masters with clones of the best fruits, assuming this goes well?

Thanks for the time peeps, really means a lot


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28557366 - 11/26/23 03:03 PM (2 months, 16 hours ago)

Up to you really.

I like to just find some clones that produce well for me and keep running those. You can always take a spore print if you want to "reset" the genetics and get a culture with more genetic diversity to search for more clones.

Maybe your LC will perform better than any clones you end up taking though. :shrug:


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Way]
    #28558404 - 11/27/23 01:46 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

24 hours later. The mycelium is growing thick all around the block. The surface is still dewey, and I find myself misting only once or twice a day. I feel like I am dialing this in pretty good. I freaking love water tubs



Pictures taken around 2 and a half hours after misting
I apologize for the redundant post but I am feeling good and high after eating some aborts and just wanted to share the progress


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28558431 - 11/27/23 02:22 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Blueberry Muffin]
    #28564476 - 12/01/23 09:24 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Still maintaining the block. The overlay is super thick now and the surface of the overlay is making the water droplets stick together...I am doing my best to maintain the surface droplets. Still misting only once a day. Waiting for pins. Hoping for signs of life, a pin, anything. Really only 5 days old. I need more patience



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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28566182 - 12/03/23 02:09 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Here we go! First natalensis pins ever! They're so cute. So far all on the top.



Fingers crossed for a good pinset here. Been really wanting to try nats for a while.


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28566187 - 12/03/23 02:15 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Quote:

Advil_Liquigels said:
Here we go! First natalensis pins ever! They're so cute. So far all on the top.



Fingers crossed for a good pinset here. Been really wanting to try nats for a while.



Babies grow fast :smile:


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Blueberry Muffin]
    #28566457 - 12/03/23 08:55 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

I wasn't even expecting them until maybe the beginning of next week! So happy. I didn't even realize its only been 6 days from birthing to pin

Came back home from work to find even more pins. Some more shots of the babez



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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28566755 - 12/03/23 01:04 PM (1 month, 24 days ago)

Every time I pop in here I'm still impressed with how well this bag is going.

:hellyeah:


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Way]
    #28568192 - 12/04/23 11:45 AM (1 month, 23 days ago)



Some shots today! The pinset is still filling out. This side looks great. The other side, a little lonely



It is showing signs of life so I do hope that this side pins too. I am happy with what I have right now though. The side that's pinning is the side that faces the window, but the blinds are almost always shut. I did have it open a couple days prior, so maybe they want more fae? I flipped the position of the tub so now the blank side faces the window, also running the window open here and then

The composition of the bag is: A "5 grain mix"??, coir, vermiculite, a "calcium and mineral blend"??, and their manure blend, which is like manure cut with coir and verm. All ratios are unknown. Just for anyone curious. It was marketed as a "manure-lovers" bag. I've never done manure before, and from what I read around here I think it's supposed to be pasteurized, not sterilized? I wish to do a proper manure tek sometime in the future.

At least now I think ill be keeping this culture and seeing how it does in tubs. I do wonder if the manure makes a difference. Might try another bag with my golden teacher clones that I'm culturing right now. :grin: So glad I'm on my own


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28570098 - 12/05/23 03:35 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Sorry for being a daily post whore. Here you go. Starting to stretch. Caps look like they might be small?



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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28571614 - 12/06/23 02:16 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

Not even 24 hours later, the caps decided to open. I am optimistic as I read somewhere here that they usually like to throw the veil early and continue growing after that, so even though they're currently the size of my pinky, I think they will get a bit bigger, at least I hope. The caps are very small. Unsure if it's my genetics or if they want more FAE. Not gonna panic, gonna keep everything the way it is for now.



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    #28572808 - 12/07/23 12:41 PM (1 month, 20 days ago)

Natural light really bringing the colors out. They may be small, but they are quite beautiful. Petite caps. Hopefully they are potent. SO EXCITED TO TRIP ON NATS THIS WEEKEND! :grin:



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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28572858 - 12/07/23 01:17 PM (1 month, 20 days ago)

:letsgo:

Enjoy friend!


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Re: P. natalensis AIO bag grow log [Re: Way]
    #28572910 - 12/07/23 02:16 PM (1 month, 20 days ago)

Thanks :laugh:

They don't seem to be sporing at all, so I'm unsure if they are fully mature or still growing? I think I might let them go over the weekend if they still show growth, this cake is still trying to shoot pins. Might have to harvest as they grow

I am a lightweight, 1g of my teachers puts me at level 1 borderline level 2. I was gonna take 5g fresh nats at first, but considering doing the whole 10g fresh for a 1g equivalent dried dose. I've been to level 2 years ago, but never level 3.

I have schizophrenia (possibly schizoaffective disorder) but so far my experience of dosing with cubes has been nothing short of a saving grace, the biggest problem I have is anhedonia and feeling nothing, just doing nothing and being in my thoughts. Psilocybin completely smashes through this depression and I've been motivated to keep clean, eat healthy, and focus on things I like to do, and the voices in my head have so far not intensified because of it. Even feeling some anxiety on the comedown, I still have the afterglow effect that really puts me in a good mood. This stuff makes me feel better than any medication I've taken, and so far has not put me into any psychotic states.

I am interested in reaching at least level two, maybe three. I'm hoping 10g fresh nats will put me at a solid level two. Or should I try just 5g to see the potency and go from there? Unsure of how I should dose this, I usually never go more than a gram of cubes. A lot of people's baselines seem to be like 3.5g for a decent trip. I feel that might be overkill for me.


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