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Liquid culture delivered to wrong address
    #28556469 - 11/25/23 07:53 PM (5 months, 20 days ago)

Couldn’t find any info and figured I’d get the best answer on shroomery

Ordered a few packages with my favorite strains , 3 different vendors

First package got misdelivered , only one syringe

2end and 3rd package were received with around 8 fresh  live cultures and some spore swabs

Almost all the vendors advertise that their liquid culture is made fresh and shouldent contain any alkaloids

State law says mushrooms are legal up until the mycelium matures enough to produce psilocybin

And of course there is the fact that a neighbor most likely will open up my package and find syringes . Might even call the cops to investigate saying they opened it by mistake

I don’t know if this was done purposely by the post office also for that same very reason . Legal loop hole that state you can open a package on accident

How screwed am I ? It’s been about a week since misdelivery

I like personally not labeling my syringes or labeling them in code , the one that was misdelivered was labeled with a freebie


Should I also assume that since the package is delivered and may have been opened that it’s also not safe to grow for a long time ?

Edited by M3lmacescape (11/25/23 08:00 PM)

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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: M3lmacescape] * 1
    #28556532 - 11/25/23 08:59 PM (5 months, 20 days ago)

I went swimming in the ocean in Florida with my brother last Christmas.

We were both pretty buzzed. Didn't realize we were in an area supervised by life guards. It was getting close to sunset, but not quite there.

We saw a couple small-medium sized black-tipped sharks hunting for fish just past the breakers. We remarked on how cute they were and continued our conversation while treading water.

The life guards started blowing their whistles like crazy, calling everyone in. I was genuinely concerned that there was a massive rip current, or maybe a Portuguese man-o-war floating in. It was only after we got out of the water that we realized they shut the beach down over those sharks.

How close did we come to getting bit?

I'm sorry, but nobody has a definitive answer to your question.

In my humble opinion, the USPS isn't misdelivering packages just to get probable cause. Controlled delivery of illegal substances is a whole other ball of wax. And mushroom cultures that exist in a largely overlooked legal gray area are not the sort of thing which typically give that variety of law enforcement supervisor much of a hard-on.

People mail large amounts of actual drugs on a regular basis. Not our new age hippie bullshit, DRUGS. Sometimes the DEA and US postal inspectors give a shit, or get a tip and have a field day with it. But most of the time, people get away with it.

Misdelivered packages? That's anyone's guess. A lot is going to depend on local culture, law enforcement, etc. And I'm sure you don't want to tell us where you live (wouldn't matter too much anyway, as I doubt any of us are US postal inspectors).

The real question I have is, how on earth did you have so many misdelivered packages in such a short period of time? There's a weak link in there somewhere (and I'd bet my head stash that it's not some USPS conspiracy). Also, FYI, you can often call the local post office and just ask them to hold the package for pickup. As long as it hasn't been bounced back to the sender yet. And think about it: what's more above-board than trying to track down your package? What's sketchier than abandoning it?

But really, come on now. If you order something to your address that's "legal," or at least overlooked these days, and use it to commit a felony, the fact that you ordered that thing is a matter of record. And the fact that you're committing a felony with it is kind of a foregone conclusion. If having packages misdelivered freaks you out this much, then ordering in your name to the place where you're growing doesn't make a whole lot of sense in the first place, consistency-wise.

My personal opinion is that nobody is paying any attention to you at all, but opinions are like assholes. And mine, in this case, is almost entirely uninformed about the real particulars.

But really, the thing is that what we do carries risks, and nobody else can tell you what your actual risks are. Or how you should feel about them.


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Edited by B Traven (11/25/23 09:13 PM)

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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: B Traven]
    #28556542 - 11/25/23 09:13 PM (5 months, 20 days ago)

Only 1 package got misdelivered

I haven’t grown for a year+ and just finished a grow before ordering new syringes . my lc storage got contaminated when all the jars tipped over .

I figured I’d buy some new syringes to suspend in h20 vials for semi long term storage .i guess I choose a bad time to do it , considering a neighbor received my package . I don’t grow often and highly doubtful i will even grow in the next few months

But I enjoyed knowing that I and the vendors I ordered from really knew what I was doing , instead of a neighbor possibly opening and keeping my package .

Word of mouth is a hell of a drug or I guess gossip


Then again I don’t know if opening up someone’s mail is something that can be gossiped about

Edited by M3lmacescape (11/25/23 09:16 PM)

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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: M3lmacescape]
    #28556565 - 11/25/23 09:42 PM (5 months, 20 days ago)

Oh, got you. Sorry, I misread that part.

What information do you have about this misdelivered package, and how did you get it?

When you say "neighbor," what do you mean? Next door? Same neighborhood? Do they know you personally? And also, what sort of neighborhood?

So many details there that you probably don't want to get into, but are kind of crucial to getting a proper picture of the situation.

I personally wouldn't be opening a personal-looking package that I thought got misdelivered. I'd either be going on Next Door to try to let the recipient know I had it, or just writing "does not live at this address" or "misdelivered" and leaving it for my mail carrier.

And yeah, that's an excellent point. Opening a stranger's mail is not the sort of thing most people would brag about.


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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: B Traven]
    #28556637 - 11/26/23 01:02 AM (5 months, 19 days ago)

I always have someone else order, pay for, and ship to them in their name.

I've been extremely cautious about getting caught with any sort of drug my whole life, and I'm the only person I know who has never been caught with some drug charge.

I really think people are stupid.

Because they are.

At least there drug arrest records would suggest that I'm not wrong for having that attitude.

I try to give people suggestions and they tell me I'm stupid and paranoid.

But they all have arrest records and I don't.

I really do just see friends taking risks and think to myself "what morons".



I would guess that someone just opened their mail one day and thought, "who the fuck is shooting up cum?"

I would definitely stash your gear for a little while, but you also have to wonder how easily they would be able to get a warrant.

I don't know if LC is illegal, but I would think it is, and also, unless they have a signature, they would have to first get a warrant to acquire your order history and credit card information, and even then, that might not be enough proof for a warrant.

But you might get a knock at your door.

Don't open it, and never talk to police.

I don't see them getting a warrant to bust down your door over that though.

They might get your phone conversation and text from your service provider too.

They don't even need a warrant for that in some places now.

We really need to start talking to people around us about doing something about the government.

It's always been massively unacceptable, and it's just getting worse.

You are completely aware of what they are doing these days I hope. Aren't you?

And if you aren't familiar with the current situation, then you can just read the history books about all the evil government repeatedly did, and nothing about any good they ever did, and you can get a pretty good idea about what they are capable of. Especially now.

Even our history's heroes are the people who fought government.

Governments are obviously the lowest of the low.

So I wouldn't put it past them to be thrilled to have a reason to take the time to destroy you just for fun.

It's how they get off, and all they live for.

You probably have cops jacking off all over your LC right now, just thinking about how good it would feel to bust you.


Edited by Sub-Easy (11/26/23 02:15 AM)

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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: Sub-Easy] * 1
    #28556832 - 11/26/23 07:55 AM (5 months, 19 days ago)

Police aren't going to prosecute for cultures. To start with they would have to bring them to maturity to identify the species. Will never happen.

Don't worry about it OP. It shows or it doesn't, that is all.


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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #28557023 - 11/26/23 10:33 AM (5 months, 19 days ago)

Ok thanks for all the reply’s guys

The vendor is going to send out a new syringe , he did add an extra freebie in the original order he said  . We are going to go 1/2 off with no freebie because it’s a strain I really want in my collection

An ape isolation , imma pack up all my gear and set it to the side and let things cool off for a bit . Maybe the mail will get redelivered eventually , maybe it’ll get tossed , I’m unsure really the outcome of the lost package


I also told the vendor to wipe the name off the syringe , I feel better ordering an unlabeled culture . If I only receive one culture I’ll know what it is

I color code all my cultures stored

Black , red , blue , pink . I have the colors decoded on an email if I ever forget what strain is what .

Edited by M3lmacescape (11/26/23 03:22 PM)

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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: Sub-Easy] * 4
    #28557164 - 11/26/23 12:51 PM (5 months, 19 days ago)

Quote:

Sub-Easy said:
I don't know if LC is illegal, but I would think it is, and also, unless they have a signature, they would have to first get a warrant to acquire your order history and credit card information, and even then, that might not be enough proof for a warrant.

But you might get a knock at your door.

Don't open it, and never talk to police.

I don't see them getting a warrant to bust down your door over that though.

They might get your phone conversation and text from your service provider too.

They don't even need a warrant for that in some places now.

We really need to start talking to people around us about doing something about the government.

It's always been massively unacceptable, and it's just getting worse.

You are completely aware of what they are doing these days I hope. Aren't you?

And if you aren't familiar with the current situation, then you can just read the history books about all the evil government repeatedly did, and nothing about any good they ever did, and you can get a pretty good idea about what they are capable of. Especially now.

Even our history's heroes are the people who fought government.

Governments are obviously the lowest of the low.

So I wouldn't put it past them to be thrilled to have a reason to take the time to destroy you just for fun.

It's how they get off, and all they live for.

You probably have cops jacking off all over your LC right now, just thinking about how good it would feel to bust you.





This is absolutely ridiculous levels of fear mongering
Don't be a fear monger dude

The only part of that I can agree with is never talk to police

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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: M3lmacescape]
    #28586695 - 12/17/23 11:20 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Man if this was in west palm it’s mine

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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: Psycocubensis]
    #28587091 - 12/17/23 05:01 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

OP never came back. I wonder if he lost his shit and burned all the evidence.


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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: Northerner]
    #28587118 - 12/17/23 05:20 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

:whatchatallkingabout:

:lmafo:

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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address [Re: Sub-Easy]
    #28587227 - 12/17/23 06:45 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Quote:

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I always have someone else order, pay for, and ship to them in their name.




Where did you find a patsy willing to go along with that?

Quote:

I really think people are stupid.

Because they are.




Seems so!

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Re: Liquid culture delivered to wrong address (moved) [Re: M3lmacescape]
    #28589360 - 12/19/23 05:26 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

This thread was moved from The Psychedelic Experience.

Reason:
Better fit here.

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