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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28570714 - 12/05/23 09:45 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Intelligence is just an instrument that man should learn to work with.


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: Rahz]
    #28570963 - 12/06/23 05:49 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

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Rahz said:

Can you explain the intelligence of sacrificing virgins to increase crop fertility?




Some claim fertility rites serve the social function of promoting reproduction. Similar to (often bizarre & brutal) rites of passage - which heighten group attraction, cultivate feelings of social affiliation, and produce conformity via cognitive dissonance.  Can behaviors that serve an evolutionarily adaptive positive survival function lack intelligence?   

Maybe that's all a bunch of BS.  I'm smart enough to be open to that . . .


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28571077 - 12/06/23 07:11 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

"What if the universe manifests whatever you want.

What if all you want is the journey or the pursuit of knowledge.

Instead of instant gratification or a reward for nothing. "

great! that is extremely uplifting


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28571093 - 12/06/23 07:20 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Appeasing the gods = scare the crap out of everybody. Sounds about right :crazy:


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28571295 - 12/06/23 09:35 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

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Rahz said:

Can you explain the intelligence of sacrificing virgins to increase crop fertility?



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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Some claim fertility rites serve the social function of promoting reproduction. Similar to (often bizarre & brutal) rites of passage - which heighten group attraction, cultivate feelings of social affiliation, and produce conformity via cognitive dissonance.  Can behaviors that serve an evolutionarily adaptive positive survival function lack intelligence?   

Maybe that's all a bunch of BS.  I'm smart enough to be open to that . . .




In the r/k reproduction strategy, feeder/prey animals multiply more readily than predators at the top of the food chain, who are more invested in their offspring.

Does it apply to social Darwinism.

(Feeder animals is the figure of speech used at the pet store. Degenerate lines of gerbil, refused pinkies, and misidentified goldfish that jumped out, slated for destruction.)


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: Rahz]
    #28571310 - 12/06/23 09:44 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

I don't know how I feel about this.
Everyone has strengths and weaknesses.
I have three college degrees and will start on my fourth soon.
But I lack in a lot of areas. Just like everyone else does.
I think it is fair to say what I have been educated and trained in. I know well.
There is a LOT I don't know.
I also feel the more you learn, the more you realize you don't know.
And different levels of intelligence.
I would never call another person stupid.


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: loladoreen]
    #28571313 - 12/06/23 09:50 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

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Thomas Malthus was an English economist and demographer best known for his theory that population growth will always tend to outrun the food supply and that betterment of humankind is impossible without strict limits on reproduction.




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Those organisms described as r-strategists typically live in unstable, unpredictable environments. Here the ability to reproduce rapidly (exponentially) is important. Such organisms have high fecundity... and relatively little investment in any one progeny individual, they are typically weak and subject to predation and the vicissitudes of their environment. The “strategic intent” is to flood the habitat with progeny so that, regardless of predation or mortality, at least some of the progeny will survive to reproduce. Organisms that are r-selected have short life spans, are generally small, quick to mature and waste a lot of energy. Typical examples of r-strategists are

    salmon
    corals
    insects
    bacteria




... protected classes, such as Dove girls and quota cases.


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28571327 - 12/06/23 10:06 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

while driving my wife to the passport office in rush hour this morning, I had at least 12 opportunities to call another driver an outright idiot. I think there is no shame in noticing how stooopid some people behave, and saying so.


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28571330 - 12/06/23 10:10 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Refreshingly honest.

But, I mean to say that we are gauging success in terms of krill vs whales.


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: durian_2008]
    #28571337 - 12/06/23 10:17 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

A giant gulp apart.


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28571342 - 12/06/23 10:20 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

There are many more krill, no matter how much are gulped.

Which animal or tranche of society is more successful.


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: durian_2008]
    #28571372 - 12/06/23 10:48 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

all  equal


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28571398 - 12/06/23 11:02 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

I guess, it depends on whether you ask the ant or the anteater.


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: durian_2008]
    #28571405 - 12/06/23 11:09 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

dust to dust you know


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28571424 - 12/06/23 11:24 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

I know. No offense is intended toward present company.

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Rahz said:
Can you explain the intelligence of sacrificing virgins to increase crop fertility?




Yes, assuming they consume more corn than is produced or are agricultural pests.


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: Bra] * 1
    #28571960 - 12/06/23 07:34 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

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Intelligence is just an instrument that man should learn to work with.





This is perfectly concise and exact.


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28572346 - 12/07/23 03:38 AM (1 month, 21 days ago)

like a saxaphone?


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28573990 - 12/08/23 07:36 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

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redgreenvines said:

while driving my wife to the passport office in rush hour this morning, I had at least 12 opportunities to call another driver an outright idiot. I think there is no shame in noticing how stooopid some people behave, and saying so.




About 10 years ago I drove my father-in-law, who was gravely ill, to the hospital in the next town.  He died the next day.  I wonder how many people thought my driving behaviors were stupid.  Little did they know.  So often our labels are rooted in ignorance.  As we sit upon our high horse.  You've never driven like a fool before, right?


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28574013 - 12/08/23 07:56 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

personally, no, I have not,
my daughter says I drive impulsively, I am nippy, but legal, and I always indicate.

she is simply not seeing the opportunities that I see, and not noticing the inclinations of other drivers.

I have never been in an accident driving 52 years.

but once after some cocaine, I sideswiped the corner of my own house with my van door on my own driveway, on ice, and that was really STOOPID.


I came up with the adage. "don't drive stoopid"


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Re: Intelligence makes us stupid [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 2
    #28574015 - 12/08/23 07:57 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

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About 10 years ago I drove my father-in-law, who was gravely ill, to the hospital in the next town.  He died the next day.  I wonder how many people thought my driving behaviors were stupid.  Little did they know. ...



sorry about your dad in law.


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