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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28563047 - 11/30/23 10:24 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

China thinks it's 0 miles though.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: nooneman]
    #28563150 - 12/01/23 12:41 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

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China thinks it's 0 miles though.




Nah... China thinks it's 7 dashed lines, approximately.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: sudly]
    #28565559 - 12/02/23 04:46 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

While the videos may look funny, if you know of the previous fascist junta governments sponsored by the CIA and other multinational corporations it is a little concerning that Argentina could return to such a state of horror.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: 336]
    #28565589 - 12/02/23 05:12 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Oh it probably will. The term "Right Wing Death Squad" has become increasingly popular in conservative circles lately, and they would be very happy to reinstate their fascist regime, and even spread it worldwide.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28566275 - 12/03/23 06:10 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

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Oh it probably will. The term "Right Wing Death Squad" has become increasingly popular in conservative circles lately, and they would be very happy to reinstate their fascist regime, and even spread it worldwide.




After world war II many Nazis were sent to Argentina. In fact, if I remember correctly, there are whole towns that speak German over there...


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28566536 - 12/03/23 09:51 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

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Oh it probably will. The term "Right Wing Death Squad" has become increasingly popular in conservative circles lately, and they would be very happy to reinstate their fascist regime, and even spread iworldwide.




Right Wing Death Squads were the vanguard of the anticommunist forces in the 1980s civil wars in Central America. But they got a bad name leading congress to defund the Contras fighting the Marxist Sandinistas in Nicaragua. Reagan violated it and had the CIA heroin dealing to replace the funding. Reagan had been super popular but was now lame duck and senile. So he and VP Bush beat the rap and everyone under them got indicted. Publicity about the Death Squads also compelled the U.S. to help install a centrist in El Salvador. That must have cost a bunch because it was expected to be contest between the communist leader and Roberto D'Aubuisson, who tortured leftists, and more likely peasants caught up in, with a blowtorch.

Those countries were super poor, except the right represented the ten or so families that owned all the land.

Are modern Death Squads operating in countries above peasant level, say in Eastern Europe. Whose the targets? guessing immigrants and reform leaders. Are the extreme rightists trying to preserve their position or soldiers for the rich, maybe both.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28566735 - 12/03/23 12:44 PM (1 month, 24 days ago)

I think the purpose of using RWDS language in modern politics is simply to instill fear in the population. Specifically, fear of speaking out against the ten or so families that own the government and would like to do what they want.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: sudly]
    #28573391 - 12/07/23 08:01 PM (1 month, 20 days ago)

I had to study US vs USSR proxy wars in Latin America and let's just say neither side was good. Both the fascist government juntas and the communist guerrilla fighters regularly killed civilians and committed all kinds of war crimes. And in most cases if not all the cases (few that they may have been) when the communists won things just devolved into pretty much a fascist government like the one, they had been fighting. only with different mottos and shit...


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: 336] * 1
    #28573422 - 12/07/23 08:24 PM (1 month, 20 days ago)

Yeah, except the communists were generally made up of displaced locals, while the fascists were US-backed mercenaries.

And when the communists took power, the reason it became fascism is because the US-backed mercenaries shot all the communists and took power back.

That was basically Iran-Contra in a nutshell. Congress said Reagan couldn't arm fascist mercenaries in...Nicaragua or some shit? So Reagan sold guns to Iran (also illegal) because he had contacts in Iran from back when he was running for president, when he paid off the Iranians to not release the hostages until after the election, and then he used the money from illegally selling guns to his illegal contacts in Iran to buy guns for the fascist mercenaries anyway.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28574346 - 12/08/23 12:23 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Yeah, other than Cuba the Latin American left wasn't tight enough with USSR to be considered satellites. Reagan argued that the Sandinistas were, but he lost the argument.

Let's not forget the drug smuggling in Iran-Contra.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28574523 - 12/08/23 02:44 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

I would argue that's not exactly the case. Both the fascists and the communists were backed by foreign governments. both were displaced (as in the civilians not those in power). i feel people give the communists/leftists a little too much leeway in terms of their morality. as one could argue they are the ones who created the gangs/cartels. that said it could also be argued that the right/US/CIA funded the gangs/cartels. It's basically two corrupt groups working in tandem while pretending they are fighting each other.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: 336]
    #28574722 - 12/08/23 05:34 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Lol what? The communists were formed entirely of rebel groups resisting various military dictatorships that were established either by the US or Europe in the early part of the 20th century. The only foreign power backing the communists was, at one time or another, Cuba. Because they all worked together to overthrow capitalist and fascist regimes across the continent.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28592578 - 12/21/23 10:02 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Devaluation of the Peso by 50%, plans to privatize state owner corporations, hiking export taxes for grains, and cracking down on protests seems to be step 1.

Poverty rates up 40% this year.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28592645 - 12/21/23 11:34 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

So the standard right-wing playbook


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28592673 - 12/21/23 12:17 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

He's finally taking some actions, like removing subsidies from public transport doubling the cost for workers using it..


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: sudly]
    #28595103 - 12/23/23 09:50 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

I feel really bad for the people of Argentina :-(


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
    #28595134 - 12/23/23 10:49 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

*watching Star Wars*


Yeah the empire is pretty bad but the rebels killed a bunch of innocent workers on the Death Star so the morals are pretty murky.


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28595147 - 12/23/23 11:10 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28595348 - 12/23/23 02:08 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

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Darth Vader is daddy




My dad is a... Vader-like character.. imo


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Re: Argentina's new president. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28595349 - 12/23/23 02:09 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

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*watching Star Wars*


Yeah the empire is pretty bad but the rebels killed a bunch of innocent workers on the Death Star so the morals are pretty murky.




... nerd..

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