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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28551681 - 11/21/23 02:49 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

I think I'm missing something. A priest of what exactly? A saint declared by whom? There's a lot of religions out there and they don't share that many similarities in views. Even within a single religion there is often very little overlap between 1 believer and the next.


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Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28551691 - 11/21/23 02:57 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

I see, you're just defining what a priest is for your purposes, as opposed to representing some actual priest?

I'm neither and haven't met anyone who fits these roles either. I think pretty much everyone does what they think is right, given limited knowledge. But there are varying degrees of how much someone from the outside looks at those actions as right. Some may have more wisdom and so be better judges.


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Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28551708 - 11/21/23 03:08 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

:shrug:

I'm of the opinion that we can label another any way that feels right to us, but it isn't necessarily accurate beyond limited understanding. Whether that be labeling behavior hellish, heavenly, or whatever.

Maybe a question I have is why is it a good idea to label anyone a priest or a saint in the first place?


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Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28551719 - 11/21/23 03:14 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Ok, revised question: Why is it a good idea to think about the concept of a priest or saint?

My philosophy is that I am neither a priest nor a saint, as you've set out definitions for in the OP.


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    #28551723 - 11/21/23 03:16 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Both IME

If there was no reward, it would be exceptionally difficult to continue any acts of kindness or goodness. And if there was no kindness or goodness, there would be no reason to reward the acts.

I don't think these are mutually exclusive. Being rewarded for being kind is a kindness in and of itself and shouldn't be shunned IMO. Whether that is just a smile in return or something more long term in view. 

Within my own life I would say there have been differences in motivation and it isn't set in stone. For example I don't think someone is a genuinely good person if they let someone abuse them. I think standing up for kindness towards yourself is the same as standing up for kindness towards another. There is no reason one person deserves kindness and another doesn't. But with that said, I play favorites all the time. It's a practice to overcome such tendencies and not a quick snap of the fingers IMO. 


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    #28551736 - 11/21/23 03:29 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Right, I said shunned and didn't attribute the word to anyone else :smile:

Maybe it's because I don't run in Christian circles, but I don't come across people who state the reason for their actions are because they are worried they are going to hell, or because they want to go to heaven. I find the people around tend to be quite genuine :confused:


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    #28551768 - 11/21/23 03:58 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Sorry to hear :hug:


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    #28551782 - 11/21/23 04:10 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

I just retold this story the other day so maybe that's why it sprang to mind so quickly, but the daughter of a cop is the only person to have ever tried to stab me :lol:

I think authoritarian restriction has downsides. Which is not to say that the actions trying to be restricted should instead be encouraged. But if someone doesn't have the skills necessary, I can't see the benefit in trying to force them to do something they are incapable of. And I do see lots of frustration emerging from a sense of failure. Maybe I'm just a fool who thinks ignorance is the enemy, not people.


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