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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88]
    #28612095 - 01/06/24 06:30 PM (21 days, 13 hours ago)

Take a better pic of what you're calling trich.  Trich normally shows up as  bright white growth that turns green, not blue.


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Re: Heating a space [Re: PBJ710]
    #28613065 - 01/07/24 02:21 PM (20 days, 17 hours ago)

Better pic and this is the same jar on the other side of the jar .




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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88]
    #28613068 - 01/07/24 02:23 PM (20 days, 17 hours ago)




These are the other jars , are they ready for fruiting yet ?


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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88]
    #28613198 - 01/07/24 04:11 PM (20 days, 15 hours ago)

If the discolored area is spreading, I'd wash off any uncolonized substrate and fruit whatever remains and hope for the best.  Otherwise see if you can get the rest to colonize before fruiting it.

The solo jar has some whispy looking mycelium that may be mold but it could also be weak mycelium.  I'd let it go a few more days to see how it progresses. 

The first 3 look ready to me in the last pic, but the last jar still needs a bit IMO.


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Re: Heating a space [Re: PBJ710]
    #28620524 - 01/14/24 05:07 AM (14 days, 2 hours ago)

My jars have started pinning in the jar ! What do I do ??!! Are they knackered? 😬


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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88]
    #28620704 - 01/14/24 09:08 AM (13 days, 22 hours ago)

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My jars have started pinning in the jar ! What do I do ??!! Are they knackered? 😬




If they're fully colonized, then no, not necessarily. It happens to me a lot when I have a culture that readily pins and I leave my jars for too long. I just pick out the fruits/pins (and eat them!) and proceed with spawning.

Pinning before full colonization usually indicates contamination issues. The uncolonized area is fucked enough to appear "off-limits" the myc, sending a signal that full colonization has been achieved. And/or the myc is fighting for its life against a bacterial infection, and trying to throw out spores as one last attempt to do something for future generations.


Edited by B Traven (01/14/24 09:11 AM)


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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88]
    #28620743 - 01/14/24 09:46 AM (13 days, 22 hours ago)

I don’t birth cakes until I see pins. The pins survive the dunk and roll. The hard part is usually just getting the cakes out without damaging the pins.
Post a picture.


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Re: Heating a space [Re: The Tao]
    #28620769 - 01/14/24 10:13 AM (13 days, 21 hours ago)

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I don’t birth cakes until I see pins. The pins survive the dunk and roll. The hard part is usually just getting the cakes out without damaging the pins.
Post a picture.




Ohhh duh, I forgot we were talking about PF jars lol

Yeah, as The Tao said, that's exactly what you want to see.


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Re: Heating a space [Re: The Tao]
    #28620780 - 01/14/24 10:21 AM (13 days, 21 hours ago)

I have circled the biggest ones and the rest us very hard to see from the pics with the flash on . But there are hundreds of tiny white pins in one of the jars and scattered about on rest of jars . The pictures taken is 4 jars in total , from different .










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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88]
    #28620797 - 01/14/24 10:35 AM (13 days, 21 hours ago)

Looks good to me. How many cakes do you have? What happened to the blue area?


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Re: Heating a space [Re: The Tao]
    #28620841 - 01/14/24 11:05 AM (13 days, 20 hours ago)

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Looks good to me. How many cakes do you have? What happened to the blue area?





On the 1st attempt i made 7 cakes in total, lost 1 due to contam , the one with the blue has been put to one side and looks like it's been covered in mycelium.  1 is stalled out I think . And the remaining 4 are the ones that I have just posted .

Of the 7 cakes it's the only 3 jedi mind fuck jars that have had issues . The other 4 are GTs and they're the ones that are pinning.


I also have another 4 which I made on 26/12 , and they look tremendous so far which I haven't posted on here as yet .

So getting back to these 4 that are pinning , should I just birth them ,dunk over night and then roll in verm then leave to fruit as per pf tek instructions? In the pf tek instructions they don't mention leaving the jars to pin before dunk and roll and I don't know what to do.


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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88]
    #28620996 - 01/14/24 12:52 PM (13 days, 19 hours ago)

I birth and dunk for 24 hours, roll in vermiculite and put put them in a water tub. I leave the tub sealed for a day before I spray the cakes with water. The wait seems to help the vermiculite adhere to the cakes.
The nice thing about birthing with visible pins is you’ll usually see the pins grow out of the vermiculite coating in a few days.
There are a number of PF teks around with variations in the method. Seeing pins on a 4-5 week old cake that appears healthy is what I look for.


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Re: Heating a space [Re: The Tao]
    #28621016 - 01/14/24 01:05 PM (13 days, 18 hours ago)

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I birth and dunk for 24 hours, roll in vermiculite and put put them in a water tub. I leave the tub sealed for a day before I spray the cakes with water. The wait seems to help the vermiculite adhere to the cakes.
The nice thing about birthing with visible pins is you’ll usually see the pins grow out of the vermiculite coating in a few days.
There are a number of PF teks around with variations in the method. Seeing pins on a 4-5 week old cake that appears healthy is what I look for.





OK great thanks for the advice , I will birth and dunk them tonight amd get me water tub ready for tomorrow night 👍


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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88]
    #28621032 - 01/14/24 01:20 PM (13 days, 18 hours ago)

I also think that it's better to wait for pins in the jar than in the fc, but is it generally considered to be a better approach? I will personally try it in the next grow.


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Re: Heating a space [Re: Skropi] * 1
    #28621069 - 01/14/24 01:49 PM (13 days, 18 hours ago)

I wait for pins because it’s a good indicator that a healthy cake is consolidated. Members who estimate colonization and consolidation often wonder where the mushrooms are and why their cakes are taking so long to fruit.
Little baby pins, nothing too large. If the pins are growing in the dry vermiculite layer they’ll probably fall off. Those are snacks or put them in the fridge and wait for the cakes to flush.
Little pins.


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Re: Heating a space [Re: The Tao]
    #28621210 - 01/14/24 03:46 PM (13 days, 16 hours ago)




One of my agar plates , most of them look like this .. I am going to take some transfers on Friday.  Things are moving along nicely now .


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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88] * 1
    #28622843 - 01/16/24 12:25 AM (12 days, 7 hours ago)




I got my water tub sorted and cakes put in there last night .

Also took transfers from my 1st ever agar plates yesterday . Looking forward to seeing results from that .

Once again thanks to all the people who have helped me along to this point so far . 🙌👍👌


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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88]
    #28622854 - 01/16/24 01:17 AM (12 days, 6 hours ago)

What's an SAB?


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Re: Heating a space [Re: NoviceCultivator]
    #28622894 - 01/16/24 03:13 AM (12 days, 4 hours ago)

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What's an SAB?



Still air box


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Re: Heating a space [Re: shronoob88]
    #28623044 - 01/16/24 07:32 AM (12 days, 25 minutes ago)

These are pint sized jars?
In case someone hasn't mentioned it - you want to use 1/2 pint for this tek, preferably the wide mouth ones.

If someone did mention it, please accept my humble apology for not reading every single post :smile:


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