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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie] * 1
    #28544487 - 11/15/23 07:11 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

There's gotta be more to this story.
Did the defendant sleep with the judge or something?


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28547764 - 11/18/23 10:57 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

The woman in this story is worse than the average murderer.
She stabbed the guy 108 times.  That's dedication.  That takes a lot of energy and effort and persistence.
And to top it off, she stabbed the poor dog to death.
This person is the epitome of evil and should get death penalty.


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenericHero] * 1
    #28551847 - 11/21/23 05:22 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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The woman in this story is worse than the average murderer.
She stabbed the guy 108 times.  That's dedication.  That takes a lot of energy and effort and persistence.
And to top it off, she stabbed the poor dog to death.
This person is the epitome of evil and should get death penalty.




Did you miss the part where she had to be tazered twice and her arm broken before she would stop stabbing herself?




No, I didn't.


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenericHero] * 1
    #28552638 - 11/22/23 10:09 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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I don’t need to have met her to know that marijuana did not cause her to go into a psychotic murder spree.




Very scientific. She also stabbed herself. People keep leaving that out





She is a suicidal murderer... a danger to others around her and herself.  She will bring down everyone and everything with her when she tries offing herself.  It wouldn't matter to me if she didn't stab herself or not in this case because once you're a danger to others then things change drastically.


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenericHero] * 3
    #28556332 - 11/25/23 05:51 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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She worked with children as a doctor, apparently. Doesn't seem like the crazy murderer type to me.





What you said about her definitely makes her sound like a good person. 
If she didn't stab her boyfriend 108 times and kill the poor dog then I would agree with your second statement.


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenericHero] * 1
    #28556435 - 11/25/23 07:24 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Yea.


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenericHero]
    #28558507 - 11/27/23 03:46 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

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Yea.




do you think that a psychologist could identify it?




Yea.
How are the psychologists so sure it was marijuana-induced psychosis?  What's their evidence?


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: PsillySeeEms] * 1
    #28559371 - 11/28/23 11:37 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

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Yea.




do you think that a psychologist could identify it?




Yea.
How are the psychologists so sure it was marijuana-induced psychosis?  What's their evidence?




Probably because she became psychotic after smoking marijuana. There was body cam footage they reviewed. They found THC in her system and nothing else. "The review, which included examination of body-worn camera video from the scene, noted Spejcher was described as appearing "possessed," which is consistent with acute psychosis.




They probably found water in her system, too, so why aren't they blaming water on her killing the man and dog in cold blood?
What chapter of psychology school covers "possessed" people?  Are psychologists also priests now?  :lol:



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The psychologist, Kris Mohandie, noted that Spejcher's stabbing of "her own beloved dog, without any evidence of animal cruelty tendencies, is highly inconsistent with her love of dogs, and underscores her level of impairment," according to the filing.
Cannabis-induced psychotic disorder can develop shortly after a high dose and usually involves persecutory delusions, among other symptoms, the psychologist noted.




Some criminals and murderers have no criminal history.  Then one day they give in to the urges and reach their full form.  It's shocking because it catches people off guard...


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But I guess that the evidence you're looking for is the testimony of the expert. Consider the definitions above. These people have been determined qualified to assess these sorts of things





So ALL of the evidence for saying she was in a marijuana-induced psychosis are:

1. Her blood tested positive for THC
2. Video shows her acting "possessed"



That's it?!?!?
Am I missing evidence here, GenericHero?

Why does her own family feel this way: "O'Melia's family staunchly opposed the move, and continues to insist Spejcher be charged with murder." 

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie] * 2
    #28561089 - 11/29/23 05:37 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Imagine seeing this girl at the grocery store when she gets out in four years or less.  Knowing she stabbed her boyfriend 108 times and killed the dog.  I would not feel safe at all.


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 2
    #28561101 - 11/29/23 05:44 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

If this chick walks by a person smoking a joint is she gonna go into suicide-murder mode again when she smells that sweet sweet marijuana? 


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28563656 - 12/01/23 11:28 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

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That's not her family. Omelia was her boyfriend's family. You missed stuff. She was subject to interviews and psychological testing. The results were interpreted by a licensed psychologist. Both the defense's and the prosecution's psychologists were in agreement. All those definitions I listed, the expert's testimony is admissable as evidence. If you want the nitty gritty, I've looked but can't find mohandie's report.




You're right, my mistake about the family.
Okay, so ALL of the evidence is the following:

1. Tested positive for THC
2. Video of her acting possessed.
3. Psychological interviews/testing that concluded in her having psychosis.

Did I word #3 correctly?  Did the interviews/tests conclude general psychosis or a more specific marijuana-induced psychosis?
What is the "nitty gritty" you speak of?  Her actual answers to the questions on the tests/interviews?







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I think she’s a somewhat intelligent psychopath. That was concealing her insanity. Doesn’t mean she wasn’t insane the whole time. She’s a loon. Why are you trying so hard to defend this absolutely insane woman who stabbed her husband 108 times and then then murdered a poor dog. That has nothing to do with marijuana at all.




I appreciate what GenericHero is doing here.  They are just following the facts as they see it.  Maybe they are a lawyer or something, but don't have to be.


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: jadedkarma] * 1
    #28563673 - 12/01/23 11:37 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

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jadedkarma said:I personally also have experienced episodes of delusional and somewhat psychotic breaks from consuming only small amounts of marijuana. I have had delusions of reference in which I thought TV's or radios were telling me things, and they were not good things. It was terrifying.

In fact, if I had to estimate, the majority of the times I have tried marijuana have been unpleasant and resulted in various levels of anxiety and paranoia.

So I don't think it's impossible for someone to experience a psychotic break due to consuming too much.




Obviously, you need to never touch marijuana or shrooms or any psychedelic drug unless you want to end up like the girl in this story.  I wonder if the girl in this story was like you in that she knew weed made her feel weird, yet she used it anyways?




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I have ADHD, depression and anxiety. It is not widely known but "just" depression and anxiety can cause people to have transient psychotic symptoms and/or delusions when under high levels of stress or other risk factors. (Of which marijuana is a well known one -- I can cite sources for this if you doubt it.)




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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28563686 - 12/01/23 11:54 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie] * 1
    #28564004 - 12/01/23 04:33 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

From the link in the article you just posted:

"Spejcher’s defense revolves around an argument that she was “involuntary intoxicated” because O’Melia pressured her to smoke and prepared the bong. In addition, she didn’t know what was in the bong or how strong the cannabis was, her lawyers have argued, nor could she have foreseen that smoking pot would trigger a psychotic episode."

So she had no idea what was in the bong and she went ahead and smoked it anyways, her lawyers are saying.  :facepalm:
This girl takes no responsibility for anything she does, it seems.  She's too perfect, I guess. :rolleyes:


From the article you just posted:

"Tests from 2018 of the marijuana that was found, both in a container in his bedroom and as burned residue in the bong, were not conclusive as to its concentration of THC, the psychoactive compound in cannabis.

Spejcher’s attorneys argued the cannabis she smoked was probably the same stuff that O’Melia had ordered from an unlicensed medical marijuana delivery service about a week earlier: a strain called OG Kush with a THC content of 31.8%."

So they don't even know if the "marijuana" had active chemicals in it?!  They assume it "probably" was the same "stuff" ordered by O'Melia recently?  Seems like they are doing a lot of assuming... not good lawyer-work.

How can they prove O'Melia pressured the girl to take the weed hits?  Just assume that as well?


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie] * 1
    #28564154 - 12/01/23 06:05 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Interesting.  Good for the jury.
Yea, four years for this crime is a joke.
I can't believe the prosecution psychologist agreed with the defense that she was in a marijuana-induced psychosis. 
I feel like something nefarious happened here, involving pro-drug-war government officials/police.

And yea, you're right, she chose to listen to the voices and kill.


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    #28570260 - 12/05/23 05:28 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

This story makes me absolutely sick.
The judge found she didn't use a deadly weapon?  How the FUCK are knives not a deadly weapon?!


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    #28632295 - 01/23/24 04:21 PM (4 days, 6 hours ago)

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“He just gave everyone in the state of California who smokes marijuana a license to kill someone,” he said.





This is the only takeaway from this that makes sense.
The justice system has failed horribly and has allowed the public to be endangered with this murderer allowed free.


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