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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #28556321 - 11/25/23 05:46 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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I don’t need to have met her to know that marijuana did not cause her to go into a psychotic murder spree.




Very scientific. She also stabbed herself. People keep leaving that out





She is a suicidal murderer... a danger to others around her and herself.  She will bring down everyone and everything with her when she tries offing herself.  It wouldn't matter to me if she didn't stab herself or not in this case because once you're a danger to others then things change drastically.




She wasn't a danger before consuming marijuana. She wasn't trying to kill herself or others. She was an accomplished person apparently.



"Bryn P. Spejcher, August 2017

Spejcher is an audiologist at the House Children’s Hearing Center at UCLA, according to social media posts. Her specialty is Otolaryngology with UCLA Health’s Head and Neck Surgery Department.

She earned her Doctor of Audiology degree from the St. Louis’ Washington University School of Medicine, AuD, in 2017, according to her LinkedIn profile. She was an Audiology Doctoral Extern with the Loyola University Health System while studying for her degree.

Originally from Bloomingdale, Illinois, Spejcher earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Communication Sciences and Disorders from Augustana College in 2013."

She worked with children as a doctor, apparently. Doesn't seem like the crazy murderer type to me.


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: veggie] * 1
    #28558509 - 11/27/23 03:49 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)


Trashy story with no weight beside 2 sleezy psychologists and a psycho killer.


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28558779 - 11/27/23 07:30 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

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Yea.




do you think that a psychologist could identify it?




Yea.
How are the psychologists so sure it was marijuana-induced psychosis?  What's their evidence?




Probably because she became psychotic after smoking marijuana. There was body cam footage they reviewed. They found THC in her system and nothing else. "The review, which included examination of body-worn camera video from the scene, noted Spejcher was described as appearing "possessed," which is consistent with acute psychosis.

The psychologist, Kris Mohandie, noted that Spejcher's stabbing of "her own beloved dog, without any evidence of animal cruelty tendencies, is highly inconsistent with her love of dogs, and underscores her level of impairment," according to the filing.
Cannabis-induced psychotic disorder can develop shortly after a high dose and usually involves persecutory delusions, among other symptoms, the psychologist noted.

"The county wants the doctor to administer the so-called MMPI-2 Psychological Test, better known as the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory. It involves over 560 true-or-false questions and is the most widely used and researched clinical assessment tool to help diagnose mental health disorders." https://www.toacorn.com/articles/prosecution-shrink-to-conduct-pretrial-examination-of-accused-killer/
This story is from dec 22.
The op is a more recent story. The prosecution's "shrink" has examined her since then. If a psychologist is asked to testify as an expert they must have the judges approval and proper credentials.

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https://www.jurispro.com/category/psychology-s-493/CA#:~:text=A%20psychology%20expert%20witness%20should,of%20psychological%20testing%20and%20therapies.

"What is a psychology expert witness?
A psychology expert witness is a person who is qualified to give testimony about a person's mental state, psychological diagnosis, or psychological treatment, among other issues."

"What is the role of a psychology expert witness?
A psychology expert witness provides testimony on the diagnosis and treatment of mental health conditions and their impact on behavior."

"What are the qualifications of a psychology expert witness?
A psychology expert witness should be a licensed psychologist with specialized training and experience in the assessment and treatment of mental and behavioral disorders, and possess knowledge of psychological testing and therapies."

I can't find/don't have access to mohandie's report, but it was enough to cause the defence to make a motion to reduce the charges to which the judge agreed. They wouldn't do that for no reason. It isn't some ploy to demonize marijuana as has been suggested.
But I guess that the evidence you're looking for is the testimony of the expert. Consider the definitions above. These people have been determined qualified to assess these sorts of things



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Trashy story with no weight beside 2 sleezy psychiatrists and a psycho killer.





Right... Because you've been so logical about this


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28558988 - 11/27/23 11:38 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

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Trashy story with no weight beside 2 sleezy psychiatrists and a psycho killer.




If the psychiatrist is some lefty socialist dog loving worker, that should be a conflict of interest IMO. All they will be able to make an assessment of is how crazy the person must be to stab their own dog, and that's probably about it.. NM that the suspect might have realized after the first few stabbings, that if they take out their dog and stab another 100+ times then they might be able to claim being the victim. If she only stabbed her dog once, but stabbed the bf 100+ times, IMO that would show that she was fully aware of the situation..


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: PsillySeeEms]
    #28562847 - 11/30/23 08:08 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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Trashy story with no weight beside 2 sleezy psychiatrists and a psycho killer.




If the psychiatrist is some lefty socialist dog loving worker, that should be a conflict of interest IMO. All they will be able to make an assessment of is how crazy the person must be to stab their own dog, and that's probably about it.. NM that the suspect might have realized after the first few stabbings, that if they take out their dog and stab another 100+ times then they might be able to claim being the victim. If she only stabbed her dog once, but stabbed the bf 100+ times, IMO that would show that she was fully aware of the situation..



There were two psychologists. One for defence and one for prosecution. They were in agreement with one another. The prosecution's works as a consultant for law enforcement. https://www.policepsychology.org/Kris-Mohandie-PhD

How do you know which assessments will be used and to what extent they will reveal?


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #28563677 - 12/01/23 11:40 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

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Yes, let's see those sources.





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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #28563803 - 12/01/23 01:36 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

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Trashy story with no weight beside 2 sleezy psychiatrists and a psycho killer.




If the psychiatrist is some lefty socialist dog loving worker, that should be a conflict of interest IMO. All they will be able to make an assessment of is how crazy the person must be to stab their own dog, and that's probably about it.. NM that the suspect might have realized after the first few stabbings, that if they take out their dog and stab another 100+ times then they might be able to claim being the victim. If she only stabbed her dog once, but stabbed the bf 100+ times, IMO that would show that she was fully aware of the situation..



There were two psychologists. One for defence and one for prosecution. They were in agreement with one another. The prosecution's works as a consultant for law enforcement. https://www.policepsychology.org/Kris-Mohandie-PhD

How do you know which assessments will be used and to what extent they will reveal?




Seriously, one of the psychologists you linked is Kris Mohandie, the guy that worked on the high profile OJ Simpson trial? They are workin on this case too?

So in other words, the crazy girl will get off practically scott free just like OJ the murderer, and write a book about how she stabbed him over a hundred times in 15 years? WTF, lol. Ok yeah, then that is an even bigger conflict of interest..


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Re: Woman Claims ‘Cannabis-Induced Psychosis’ Made Her Stab Boyfriend 108 Times Then Kill Her Dog [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28633409 - 01/24/24 02:29 PM (3 days, 8 hours ago)

She’s now the flag child of marijuana psychosis.
Something there is still no evidence of.
She is walking the streets right now because of people that are trying to push the propaganda campaign that marijuana can make you lose your mind and stab someone and that is completely the drugs fault.


Something that happened over 50 years ago. Yet we are still letting people bully us into having this be a narrative.

Marijuana of all things.
Not PCP. No no no. The marijuana.
That’s the one that’ll make you go into a psychotic break and stab someone 108 times. That’s on record now.
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