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Re: Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. [Re: Ythan] * 1
    #28549254 - 11/19/23 02:44 PM (5 months, 26 days ago)

Last time I was in Mexico I met  brothers who run an ibogaine clinic.
Im going in April. Im accompanying my friend . She has a lifelong addiction to meth and opioid. It's very promising but you still have to have behavioral changes.

Yes I would agree they would love to be in their own homes. I rarely come across people who refuse or state they don't want a home. There are some but definitely the minority.

Subs are a great alternative. But difficult for many to get.

Fentanyl addiction is very isolating. Opioid addiction as a whole is completely different then other drugs. Fentanyl is a different level. I just had someone turned away from detox because their tolerance is so high they can't comfortably help them. I considered them an average user.
People need help.


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Re: Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. [Re: halo] * 1
    #28549696 - 11/19/23 10:49 PM (5 months, 26 days ago)

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halo said:
  I prefer to get high in the safety and comfort of my home than I do out in public. Whether it's just weed or harder stuff, I just don't get the appeal of doing drugs in public.





Unless you have a sober person standing by with narcan doing fentanyl alone at home is high risk of death. The idea of public use is if you OD someone will come along and narcan you. 

I get what you are saying though, every bus shelter in my city is full of addicts doing drugs, I must have seen 100 of them this morning on my commute. Nothing good about public drug use. I'm fine with decrim, but public use is everywhere, in your face, on public transit too. I think the penalty for public use should be an immediate forced narcaning by police.

My city has supervised injection site, but majority of users here smoke rather than inject so it serves little purpose. I think you could open up 50 places to use drugs and public use would still be a problem. These people can't walk a block without hitting the tinfoil again, its not really mangeable. And we can never go back, hardcore fentanyl addicts don't want legal weaker opioids. There is no way out of this epidemic. And it just keeps getting worse.


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Re: Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. [Re: Ythan] * 2
    #28549949 - 11/20/23 08:33 AM (5 months, 26 days ago)

There's always a way out. Always
We didn't think we would survive crack or meth.
Fentanyl is ... a whole different level.
But somehow it'll level off.
I see an increase in people going to detox lately.
Detox get closed often. They can't afford to stay open.
We're facing some big challenges.
You don't stop.
Everyone is deserving


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Re: Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. [Re: Ythan] * 2
    #28549951 - 11/20/23 08:34 AM (5 months, 26 days ago)

I agree it often feels hopeless and all uphill
I can't stop
I wont


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Re: Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. [Re: halo]
    #28550890 - 11/20/23 09:51 PM (5 months, 25 days ago)

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I don't understand fentanyl addiction, or why so many people are okay with living on the streets and doing shitty drugs.

My enjoyment of drugs is one of the many things that motivates me to be a relatively normal person who has a job and housing. I understand many of these people are mentally ill, but frankly, I prefer to get high in the safety and comfort of my home than I do out in public. Whether it's just weed or harder stuff, I just don't get the appeal of doing drugs in public.

Seems to me a reasonable solution would be drugs are decriminalized/legalized for use in the home, but illegal to use in public. In most places in the USA, you can't sit on a public bench and get drunk all day, why do they let people smoke fentanyl or meth in public?




Wow... Such a simple, yet perfect solution. What a great idea lol!


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Re: Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. [Re: loladoreen] * 2
    #28550893 - 11/20/23 09:56 PM (5 months, 25 days ago)

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I agree it often feels hopeless and all uphill
I can't stop
I wont




I love you.


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Re: Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28550896 - 11/20/23 09:57 PM (5 months, 25 days ago)

I agree, she is super cool.

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Re: Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. [Re: Ythan] * 2
    #28550905 - 11/20/23 10:05 PM (5 months, 25 days ago)

Thank you


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