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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: NFLProof]
    #28436767 - 08/17/23 06:05 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

Is misting required with this method


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Redacted]
    #28436769 - 08/17/23 06:07 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

If your cakes don’t have micro droplets on them, yes.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Screwup] * 1
    #28450943 - 08/29/23 09:43 AM (5 months, 16 days ago)

Hi all!

What should I do if I'm seeing an early pin? this is my first grow ever and it's PF Classic so I'm excited and nervous and everything in between.

I rolled in coir and put in water tub about 40 hrs ago. I have not initiated fruiting by opening lid and misting. So far I only put them in the tub and closed the lid shut. First time I opened lid was right now to take these photos. Humidity appears to have been 100 this whole time as I've hardly been able to see inside with the walls of tub looking steamed up. Before I went to bed about 12 hours ago there were just specs of mycelium appearing on surface of the coir. So a lot of mycelium has started to colonize the coir overnight in a short time but we're still early.

I assume I should just keep with the plan?? Let the cakes colonize further before opening lid and then misting to achieve ideal cake surface conditions??

When I checked this morning vs. now 3 hours later (lid on and lid off)



Not nearly colonized. I think the coir is a little thick but we tried to stick to the TEK which says 5-10mm. we are closer to 5mm:


Edited by wrongbenson (08/29/23 10:40 AM)


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: wrongbenson]
    #28450952 - 08/29/23 09:56 AM (5 months, 16 days ago)

You can crack/flip your lid now.  You really don't have to wait until it colonizes.

As far as the pin goes, just be happy you have a mushroom. There's nothing to do.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Kinoko314]
    #28450968 - 08/29/23 10:22 AM (5 months, 16 days ago)

Ok thanks for the advice. I'm not home yet but I'll see how they look in a few hours and think about cracking lid for FAE and start misting.

I just noticed after admiring my photos (lmao) that we have more pins on at least another cake in another tub (2 below on the middle cake):



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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: wrongbenson] * 1
    #28452252 - 08/30/23 10:35 AM (5 months, 15 days ago)

I've decided to wait to introduce FAE and misting ;
I'm just trying to stick to the TEK as close as possible and try to get 50-75% colonization on the coir. I went through the threads and it seems misting before this can waterlog my cakes and make it hard to achieve ideal surface conditions.

I now have 6 of 18 cakes with pins that I can see. Noticeably more myc regenerating on the coir in 24 hrs - esp on sides and undersides - maybe I should flip these cakes? I would love to give these another 24 hrs...

I am thinking I may take the best 6 looking cakes and put them in a new tub to initiate fruiting conditions there and let the remainder continue at their own pace - this was a MSS so maybe the timing will be all over the place.

So nervous. Any suggestions appreciated.





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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: wrongbenson]
    #28452638 - 08/30/23 05:39 PM (5 months, 15 days ago)

I haven’t went back and read everything you posted but , is this the 1st flush ? The whole process on restricting FAE until fruiting conditions are ready can be tricky. The cakes you have
look okay dnt panic stay on course if you have to spray do it gently and from above the FC look for the water droplets bc those evaporating threw the small crack in the lid . The pins look overall rly healthy the cakes will all do differently they do look a little on the dry side and the pins coming from underneath will be fine ! They will make their way to the light
Dnt panic stay focus and on track !! Congratulations


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: wrongbenson]
    #28452663 - 08/30/23 06:02 PM (5 months, 15 days ago)

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wrongbenson said:
I've decided to wait to introduce FAE and misting ;
I'm just trying to stick to the TEK as close as possible and try to get 50-75% colonization on the coir. I went through the threads and it seems misting before this can waterlog my cakes and make it hard to achieve ideal surface conditions.

I now have 6 of 18 cakes with pins that I can see. Noticeably more myc regenerating on the coir in 24 hrs - esp on sides and undersides - maybe I should flip these cakes? I would love to give these another 24 hrs...

I am thinking I may take the best 6 looking cakes and put them in a new tub to initiate fruiting conditions there and let the remainder continue at their own pace - this was a MSS so maybe the timing will be all over the place.

So nervous. Any suggestions appreciated.







Beautifull! No need to move any cakes around. Keep things as they are with a little air gap for fae. Once the coir is colonized, it will bead up :thumbup:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: cozmyc]
    #28457182 - 09/03/23 01:47 PM (5 months, 11 days ago)

Should i mist right away or wait 48 hrs?

I've been said to do FAE immediately.

Thank you.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: killreflection]
    #28457231 - 09/03/23 02:34 PM (5 months, 11 days ago)

Do you see water droplets? β€œSurface conditions” on the cakes ?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Wizard_Shames]
    #28457248 - 09/03/23 02:47 PM (5 months, 11 days ago)

Nope, i didn't mist. That is why i ask, do i need leave it for 48 hours or mist from the start?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: killreflection] * 1
    #28457258 - 09/03/23 02:58 PM (5 months, 11 days ago)

Yeah, give the myc some time to grab on to the coir. It's then that you watch the mycelium and see if you need to mist. :thumbup:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: cozmyc]
    #28457296 - 09/03/23 03:18 PM (5 months, 11 days ago)

Casing is verm


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: killreflection] * 1
    #28457607 - 09/03/23 07:36 PM (5 months, 10 days ago)

Cool, same process :mushroom2:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
    #28503558 - 10/13/23 05:36 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Hi everyone. My first grow. It’s almost two weeks and still no pins. What I do wrong? I do mist twice in day and myc always have droplets on surface. The lid is closed with the small crack.




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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: animals.hauteur]
    #28539762 - 11/12/23 06:57 AM (3 months, 3 days ago)

I found too much Co2 is building in unmodified water tub
water tub can hit up to 88% humidity, but Co2 is the problem

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320302546_EFFECT_OF_PHYSIOCHEMICAL_FACTORS_ON_FRUITING_BODY_FORMATION_IN_MUSHROOM

about more than 4000 ppm are found in my unmodified water tub
drilling more holes can reduce average Co2, but this decreases average humidity also.

https://koreascience.kr/article/JAKO200923753740101.page


Reducing Co2 can cause faster pinning(faster harvest), more pins(higher yield)
(the results are different by species)

Fanning is must. Too much Co2 can result no pins

But this doesn't apply to active species which many people have success with no touching tek


You could use computer fans with timer to continuously remove high Co2


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: lastine] * 1
    #28539793 - 11/12/23 07:29 AM (3 months, 3 days ago)

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lastine said:
I found too much Co2 is building in unmodified water tub
water tub can hit up to 88% humidity, but Co2 is the problem

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320302546_EFFECT_OF_PHYSIOCHEMICAL_FACTORS_ON_FRUITING_BODY_FORMATION_IN_MUSHROOM

about more than 4000 ppm are found in my unmodified water tub
drilling more holes can reduce average Co2, but this decreases average humidity also.

https://koreascience.kr/article/JAKO200923753740101.page


Reducing Co2 can cause faster pinning(faster harvest), more pins(higher yield)
(the results are different by species)

Fanning is must. Too much Co2 can result no pins

But this doesn't apply to active species which many people have success with no touching tek


You could use computer fans with timer to continuously remove high Co2



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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: animals.hauteur]
    #28539794 - 11/12/23 07:29 AM (3 months, 3 days ago)

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Hi everyone. My first grow. It’s almost two weeks and still no pins. What I do wrong? I do mist twice in day and myc always have droplets on surface. The lid is closed with the small crack.






Hard to tell but the myc doesn’t look the greatest.  Better pictures?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: animals.hauteur] * 2
    #28539980 - 11/12/23 09:46 AM (3 months, 3 days ago)

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Hi everyone. My first grow. It’s almost two weeks and still no pins. What I do wrong? I do mist twice in day and myc always have droplets on surface. The lid is closed with the small crack.







That tub is WAY too big for a single cake.  You can literally put one cake in a sandwich bag with ~6 syringe needle holes poked through the bag evenly spaced with some wet verm on the top and bottom of the cake and leave it alone and it’ll flush out


Or make a small water tub with a glad container and ziplock.  I found some plastic basket thingy that I turned upside down to lift the cakes over the water for 2-3 cakes


I poked syringe needle holes about every 1.5-2” through the bag before I expanded it. 



Using such a large container is just making it so you have to maintain conditions in areas the cake isn’t even using.  The goal should be to never have to fan or mist.  Shrinking the environment to a few inches around the cake keeps you from having to do that and is plenty of room to get a full flush in


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Screwup]
    #28540313 - 11/12/23 01:21 PM (3 months, 3 days ago)

Sir, I said this does not apply to active species


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