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birdeatingspider
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Anonymous #3 said: Thanks for replying to my post. I tried more than once to respond thoughtfully, but couldn’t figure out exactly what I was trying to convey.
Not used to simply venting/asking for help just to do it, without some calculated reason or expectation attached to it. If that even makes sense. Probably somewhat of an imposter thing, in that I don’t think my situation necessarily warrants taking up space in a thread of this nature.
I was in a particularly bad space when I typed out that post but, with a clear head, I don’t feel I’m realistically at risk.
I greatly appreciate having been able to get some shit off my chest when I needed to, and be met with your kind responses. I’ll keep an eye on this thread, and will happily contribute in the future if I feel I’m able to help.

First, I am so relieved that you found some solace by posting. You are welcome. Welcome to help, welcome to hurt, welcome here without any expectations 
Imposter Syndrome really sucks the good out of life. But can assure you, there are individuals who want to be the change they want to see in the word.
As lola pointed out, just because you are feeling better doesn't exclude you from participating here- the idea is to retain members and coexist with those struggling.
The commonality is the knowing of what it is like to be there. A big reason for this idea is for the social aspect. As anon3 demonstrates, just being heard and responded to can help tremendously. There is also hopefully a sense of belonging and natural desire to reciprocate the kindness. It would be wonderful to get progress reports, or updates to follow along in another's journey. Friends in good company.
Cant help but feel this would divert from JSB's original intent and thread. And I do feel if in a frantic, intoxicated state, that seeing the sticky might be a godsend.
Lola, Are you suggesting a new thread altogether, or editing the title?
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birdeatingspider
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Re: Suicidal? [Re: Kryptos]
#28559877 - 11/28/23 06:27 PM (1 month, 29 days ago) |
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birdeatingspider said: Ah gotcha.
Just curious, have you ever had/managed a crisis in your health wellbeing channel? I know Discord hasn't been an available channel til somewhat recently.
There have definitely been threads in this forum that seemed...significantly more serious than others. I imagine the only benefit of discord would be faster response time for such situations. I imagine there have been similar discussions on the discord. Drugs and mental health crises go hand in hand.
There does need to be a serious discussion about potential ramifications, though. I don't think it's likely to be a big issue, since, once again, drug use and mental health crises are like peanut butter and chocolate. I think a lot of this could be covered by good samaritan type laws, but someone might wanna loop in Enlil just in case.
Was asking about strictly discord.
Tried Enlil, he wouldn't take my dollar. The legal stuff will be understood by the higher ups. Lets keep this for brainstorming.
Got only one hand and its tired. Will catch up in the am. Hope everyone has a good night/day!
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What would you like to see here
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JSB's original thread stickied.
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An entire new thread dedicated to any emotional turmoil, not just thinking about death.
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Votes accepted from (11/29/23 05:18 AM) to (11/29/23 05:18 AM) You must vote before you can view the results of this poll.
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loladoreen


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Anonymous #4 said: What would you like to see here
Why don't you create a poll asking for a new thread? New title or keep what is here? Allow the shroomery members to decide.
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birdeatingspider
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See above? Do you not see the poll?
Every post I have requested ideas and feedback. This will be a member-made production, I assure you.
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GenesisCorrupted
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Might just be me. But I think the poll is broken. I can’t cast a vote.
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loladoreen


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The poll is closed. It closed at 4:18 am this morning.
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birdeatingspider
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Sorrys, had never made one before. Shall try again.
What would you like to see here?
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JSB's original thread stickied. For those dealing with occasional- constant thoughts of death.
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In my opinion there's not a need for a generalized depression/mental health sticky, as this whole subforum is an open discussion place for those topics and many threads get made on them. Those threads probably recieve more traffic/attention than posts in a sticky would
Suicide is a topic that's a different animal. Sure there's stigma, but this is a drug forum and this sub has an anonymous feature, I don't think the term is something we need to shy away from
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sudly
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Gray Hound said: I've exhausted over 30 or so jobs. and it just felt like a war between me and the world. Aint nobody lookin out for me out there. and if there is, i am already damned. Damned in my actions and my doings. Ive tried it all.
If you're in America, the system isn't much for supportive.
Some work places are toxic, some have shackles like drug tests, some have overbearing micromanagement, some just don't father fulfillment.
Hope something comes your way.
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Kryptos
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Re: Suicidal? [Re: sudly] 1
#28562322 - 11/30/23 03:21 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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The US system specifically, and the capitalist system more generally, teaches you to seek identity through labor. That's why when shit goes down, they say something like "[job] worker, 47, died in freak accident" and your name goes in the second line. This teaches you that you are your job. This also makes you exploitable, because once you identify as your job, you are less likely to leave for a better position.
Resist this. Seek identity in what you want, not what you work as.
This shit already bleeds into social interactions. "So, what do you do?" Is a request for your job title, which then defines your relative social position.
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Re: Suicidal? [Re: Kryptos]
#28562778 - 11/30/23 07:44 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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To avoid answering that question. I will usually make a joke. It’s no one’s business what I do for my job. Also, obviously, the conversation has failed if that’s what we’re talking about.
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birdeatingspider
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Re: Suicidal? [Re: Kryptos] 2
#28562809 - 11/30/23 07:55 PM (1 month, 27 days ago) |
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Kryptos said: The US system specifically, and the capitalist system more generally, teaches you to seek identity through labor. That's why when shit goes down, they say something like "[job] worker, 47, died in freak accident" and your name goes in the second line. This teaches you that you are your job. This also makes you exploitable, because once you identify as your job, you are less likely to leave for a better position.
Resist this. Seek identity in what you want, not what you work as.
This shit already bleeds into social interactions. "So, what do you do?" Is a request for your job title, which then defines your relative social position.
One of my first Watts introductions. Forgot about it until it was posted in whatre you listening thread
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Nitro87 said: si=UMEJ_1u4qcOThDz5
Always agreed with this philosophy. Seeing it play out repeatedly, as we all do, and fall trap to. Anyways, figured your belief tied in so felt to share.
Music is always true company when you can't even find the words; hearing them being sung to you through the speakers is personal-again, knowing you are not alone.
I have a playlist, "traumatic Moments' But it's nice to not be digging through songs when in a distressed state. Would encourage others to find their sound if haven't already- filter through different genres and find whatever eases your mind.
Talks like the one above that everyone should hear, are important validaters.
General Reminder: Let's keep the language clean and shitposting away .
There will be a formal set of rules that is currently being drafted.
In the meantime, please treat this thread with the respect it and the people deserve, including yourself. Please be mindful of what you post and how you choose to convey your message.
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