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how annoying is death really
#28529945 - 11/05/23 06:36 AM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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my watch was making alarm come every hour then i adjusted it and am much more happy my life is like a glide with ok mood
it came to me that death is even more annoying than the watch that if I was much annoyied I would be dead it would not be good how much
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Ferdinando]
#28529951 - 11/05/23 06:41 AM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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Indeed, the art of drawing is dead, in death.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Buster_Brown]
#28530193 - 11/05/23 08:51 AM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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I sure hope I retain the ability to be annoyed when I'm dead & buried.
Until then, I will simply be annoyed at the anticipation of my demise.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#28530222 - 11/05/23 09:04 AM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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The universe has two sides: everything that was and will be, and we are stuck in the part that IS NOW.
When you die, your time dies, which means it dilates into the totality of everything.
Its all you.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Asante]
#28530434 - 11/05/23 10:42 AM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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The first time I heard this lecture I was blown away by how perfectly he stated the same thoughts I had about death as a child. I would ponder about death every night as religious talks about imminent death and destruction were pervasive in my childhood.
I still feel if I were a betting man that consciousness, or the basic awareness of ‘I am’, is the ground of being so to speak. Whether experienced through your sense perceptions or any body else’s.
With that said the mental aspects of death anxiety and the annoyance of deaths frequent interruptions of people we love and ourselves can be overwhelming.
Meditation helps calm the storm of mental activity.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
#28530448 - 11/05/23 10:53 AM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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I doubt any intelligence would throw you away after going thru so much energy to civilize you.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Asante] 1
#28530466 - 11/05/23 11:05 AM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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Asante said: The universe has two sides: everything that was and will be, and we are stuck in the part that IS NOW.
When you die, your time dies, which means it dilates into the totality of everything.
this is an interesting set of statements.
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Quote:
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Asante said: The universe has two sides: everything that was and will be, and we are stuck in the part that IS NOW.
When you die, your time dies, which means it dilates into the totality of everything.
this is an interesting set of statements.
As such, may we consider it a 'White Buffalo' ?
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Buster_Brown]
#28531172 - 11/05/23 08:34 PM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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I would not want to have sex with a buffalo.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Ferdinando]
#28531203 - 11/05/23 09:03 PM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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If you ask me, when you die, you cease to exist, so in that moment it isn't annoying at all because you're not experiencing anything, you don't even exist, no awareness, no passage of time, just non-existence. Millions of years could pass by unnoticed in less than an instant, without any awareness at all of anything whatsoever. Not even blackness or the feeling of existence, no awareness of any kind, of anything at all.
It's actually quite a pure and clean state when you think about it, at least compared to the chaos of drugs and psychedelics.
I suppose the worst part is that your memories, personality, and everything that made you who you are is gone forever, and will never come back again. But the state itself is utterly painless, or at least I hope it is.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: nooneman]
#28531216 - 11/05/23 09:16 PM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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You contradict yourself It is not a state of mind or body or soul. All that is in you stops. Only the reflections of you in others goes on. It is not a cohesive state at all in spite of literatures and fantasy.
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A reflection within a reflection within a reflection?
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
#28531290 - 11/06/23 12:14 AM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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sometimes while puzzling through
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Quote:
redgreenvines said: I would not want to have sex with a [white] buffalo.
It's perspective, millions of Native Americans might disagree with you I think.
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Asante said: The universe has two sides: everything that was and will be, and we are stuck in the part that IS NOW.
When you die, your time dies, which means it dilates into the totality of everything.
when i tried suicide first it was like if i went left i would go to black and quiet gone
then i got up and walked on and it seemed if i died i would be split into different parts that would go up into the universe it seemed like i got it worse then so like it's good
but i think normally when we die we are reincarnated
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Ferdinando]
#28531300 - 11/06/23 12:58 AM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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It is soothing to believe so, and self soothing is a valid process in itself, even if it is not based on something true.
reincarnation theories complement karma theories but they are also applicable to ordinary daily life and sleep cycle death.
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I’m starting to sense some puzzles aren’t meant to be solved no matter how soothing the answer may or may not be
Reincarnation through all infinite potential possibilities can be discomforting as well
I suppose it depends on the perspective of space and time
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redgreenvines said: reincarnation theories complement karma theories but they are also applicable to ordinary daily life and sleep cycle death.
The best way to go about one’s daily life. And if karma happens to get passed along…..
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
#28531304 - 11/06/23 01:40 AM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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The trouble being that for the bigwigs karma can be metaphorical thus satisfying their own sense of justice while we continue fretting over a non-issue.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Buster_Brown]
#28531309 - 11/06/23 02:17 AM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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Which bigwigs?
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Buster_Brown]
#28531311 - 11/06/23 02:25 AM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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Specific to which turtle sector?
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Buster_Brown]
#28531314 - 11/06/23 02:36 AM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Buster_Brown]
#28531317 - 11/06/23 02:39 AM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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Ideas might be garnered from the opening sequence of Billy & Mandy
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
#28531318 - 11/06/23 02:41 AM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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Yoda compliments that picture as a hairless Egyptian carnivorous cat.
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redgreenvines said: It is soothing to believe so, and self soothing is a valid process in itself, even if it is not based on something true.
reincarnation theories complement karma theories but they are also applicable to ordinary daily life and sleep cycle death.
I can be a little unnerved at the idea of reincarnation. It opens the possibility of reincarnating into uncomfortable or hellish realities, where as in my present mind I might find more peace in a never ending blackness.
It’s just my own death anxieties Nothing important
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Swyfty Swyf] 1
#28537326 - 11/10/23 02:56 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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The Spore Print you see above turned out to be more than merely a spore print. Is it just a spore print? Is it merely that? Or is there a symbol, a sign, too? What or who produced the art within the spore print? What appears as apophenia / pareideolia also appears as a faerie story.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Swyfty Swyf] 1
#28537580 - 11/10/23 05:59 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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Swyfty Swyf said: I can be a little unnerved at the idea of reincarnation. It opens the possibility of reincarnating into uncomfortable or hellish realities, where as in my present mind I might find more peace in a never ending blackness.
It’s just my own death anxieties Nothing important 

I find more peace in not having to give up some measure of logical integrity to believe souls leave the body and find a new host, or that there is a heaven or hell.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Rahz]
#28537620 - 11/10/23 06:20 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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Death sucks. I guess I have to speak somewhat childishly here - since some people say that fear of death is overcome in the childhood, but I never did.
I still get uneasy at the thought. I haven't felt comfortable accepting any higher power or any vision of the afterlife, I'm still an atheist.
However, I struggle with the idea of a timeline for life, and a definite end-point. I want to be alive. Even though I've had troubles in my life, I ultimately want it to continue. Seeing it turn to blackness scares me.
As I see it, fear of death is a natural reflection of joy of life, how couldn't we fear life's end if we like life?
I wanted to ask how I can be comfortable around this question, even from an atheistic perspective - how can atheism deal with my desire for my life to continue on and on, my desire to keep living?
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Start small by noticing the little desires you have each day. What happens when those desires are unfulfilled? Really sit with that feeling and try to give it some space for understanding.
I would also suggest getting a little uncomfortable each day. Cold shower, walk to the store/work instead of driving etc. I’ll even leave a little bit of water in my ear after I shower and sit with it through meditation.
Another helpful exercise is giving away things you feel attached to. Once again start small but it’s a nice practice of letting go.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
#28537770 - 11/10/23 08:21 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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hair shirts used to be so popular.
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Did you give yours away?
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
#28537852 - 11/10/23 09:37 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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my hair is annoying enough freeqing follicles!! ayeeeyaaah!!!
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Just listen to your follicles, they will tell you which way to grow or stop growing
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
#28538049 - 11/11/23 03:50 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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Is that an analogy for 'heir' ?
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Buster_Brown]
#28538149 - 11/11/23 06:26 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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inhairit the follicle?
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy] 1
#28538202 - 11/11/23 07:24 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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cubedryeguy said: Start small by noticing the little desires you have each day. What happens when those desires are unfulfilled? Really sit with that feeling and try to give it some space for understanding.
I would also suggest getting a little uncomfortable each day. Cold shower, walk to the store/work instead of driving etc. I’ll even leave a little bit of water in my ear after I shower and sit with it through meditation.
Another helpful exercise is giving away things you feel attached to. Once again start small but it’s a nice practice of letting go.
Nice post. A person doesn't need to "meditate" to contemplate and work with feelings. There are potential issues involved. I think the concept of being okay with how things are is helpful. I wouldn't fault a youngish person for fear of death. I wouldn't fault an older person for having a preference for remaining alive.
Feedback loops of 'not want' create a cage. Higher level perspective, it's okay to not want (or to want/can't have), fosters acceptance, avoids judgement. At some point the cycle begins to get "old" and can die for a new perspective. But trying to rush isn't prudent. Fear is an ability (think skill to develop), not something to bemoan.
"hello darkness my old friend".
Ain't no way I'm leaving water in my ears though!
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Rahz]
#28538220 - 11/11/23 07:44 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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I'm a great source of practice. Every time you think about spending money, send it to me instead. It may seem undesirable at the time but it's just practice.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Kickle]
#28538240 - 11/11/23 08:04 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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You will hold it for us in safekeeping?
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#28538253 - 11/11/23 08:08 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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I'll make sure it disappears just like at death. No reason to short change the practice.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Kickle]
#28538309 - 11/11/23 08:40 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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Why are so many old people poor then?
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Kickle]
#28538348 - 11/11/23 09:10 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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Unemployable all fucked out shells of formerly attractive assistants and apprentices.
Check best before dates
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Hmm I've employed several older folks but not because of sex appeal. Same for the younger gen. The older gen has some upsides and downsides
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Kickle]
#28539598 - 11/12/23 12:14 AM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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good action is money
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Ferdinando]
#28539629 - 11/12/23 01:05 AM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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good money is social- nuture and nature
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