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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28531314 - 11/06/23 02:36 AM (2 months, 21 days ago)



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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28531317 - 11/06/23 02:39 AM (2 months, 21 days ago)

Ideas might be garnered from the opening sequence of Billy & Mandy


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
    #28531318 - 11/06/23 02:41 AM (2 months, 21 days ago)

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Yoda compliments that picture as a hairless Egyptian carnivorous cat.


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28537092 - 11/10/23 12:23 PM (2 months, 17 days ago)

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It is soothing to believe so, and self soothing is a valid process in itself, even if it is not based on something true.

reincarnation theories complement karma theories
but they are also applicable to ordinary daily life and sleep cycle death.




I can be a little unnerved at the idea of reincarnation. It opens the possibility of reincarnating into uncomfortable or hellish realities, where as in my present mind I might find more peace in a never ending blackness.

It’s just my own death anxieties
Nothing important:shrug:


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Swyfty Swyf] * 1
    #28537326 - 11/10/23 02:56 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Alan Watts | suicidal maniacs:





The Spore Print you see above turned out to be more than merely a spore print.  Is it just a spore print?  Is it merely that?  Or is there a symbol, a sign, too?  What or who produced the art within the spore print?  What appears as apophenia / pareideolia also appears as a faerie story.


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Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Swyfty Swyf] * 1
    #28537580 - 11/10/23 05:59 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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I can be a little unnerved at the idea of reincarnation. It opens the possibility of reincarnating into uncomfortable or hellish realities, where as in my present mind I might find more peace in a never ending blackness.

It’s just my own death anxieties
Nothing important :shrug:




:thumbup:

I find more peace in not having to give up some measure of logical integrity to believe souls leave the body and find a new host, or that there is a heaven or hell.


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Rahz]
    #28537620 - 11/10/23 06:20 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Death sucks. I guess I have to speak somewhat childishly here - since some people say that fear of death is overcome in the childhood, but I never did.

I still get uneasy at the thought. I haven't felt comfortable accepting any higher power or any vision of the afterlife, I'm still an atheist.

However, I struggle with the idea of a timeline for life, and a definite end-point. I want to be alive. Even though I've had troubles in my life, I ultimately want it to continue. Seeing it turn to blackness scares me.

As I see it, fear of death is a natural reflection of joy of life, how couldn't we fear life's end if we like life?

I wanted to ask how I can be comfortable around this question, even from an atheistic perspective - how can atheism deal with my desire for my life to continue on and on, my desire to keep living?


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: CreonAntigone] * 1
    #28537758 - 11/10/23 08:15 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Start small by noticing the little desires you have each day. What happens when those desires are unfulfilled? Really sit with that feeling and try to give it some space for understanding.

I would also suggest getting a little uncomfortable each day. Cold shower, walk to the store/work instead of driving etc. I’ll even leave a little bit of water in my ear after I shower and sit with it through meditation.

Another helpful exercise is giving away things you feel attached to. Once again start small but it’s a nice practice of letting go.


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
    #28537770 - 11/10/23 08:21 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

hair shirts used to be so popular.


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28537834 - 11/10/23 09:22 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Did you give yours away?



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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
    #28537852 - 11/10/23 09:37 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

my hair is annoying enough
freeqing follicles!! ayeeeyaaah!!!


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28538032 - 11/11/23 02:00 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Just listen to your follicles, they will tell you which way to grow or stop growing


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy]
    #28538049 - 11/11/23 03:50 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Is that an analogy for 'heir' ?


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28538149 - 11/11/23 06:26 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

inhairit the follicle?


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: cubedryeguy] * 1
    #28538202 - 11/11/23 07:24 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Start small by noticing the little desires you have each day. What happens when those desires are unfulfilled? Really sit with that feeling and try to give it some space for understanding.

I would also suggest getting a little uncomfortable each day. Cold shower, walk to the store/work instead of driving etc. I’ll even leave a little bit of water in my ear after I shower and sit with it through meditation.

Another helpful exercise is giving away things you feel attached to. Once again start small but it’s a nice practice of letting go.




Nice post. A person doesn't need to "meditate" to contemplate and work with feelings. There are potential issues involved. I think the concept of being okay with how things are is helpful. I wouldn't fault a youngish person for fear of death. I wouldn't fault an older person for having a preference for remaining alive. 

Feedback loops of 'not want' create a cage. Higher level perspective, it's okay to not want (or to want/can't have), fosters acceptance, avoids judgement. At some point the cycle begins to get "old" and can die for a new perspective. But trying to rush isn't prudent. Fear is an ability (think skill to develop), not something to bemoan.

"hello darkness my old friend".

Ain't no way I'm leaving water in my ears though!


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Rahz]
    #28538220 - 11/11/23 07:44 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

I'm a great source of practice. Every time you think about spending money, send it to me instead. It may seem undesirable at the time but it's just practice.

:pm: for details


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Kickle]
    #28538240 - 11/11/23 08:04 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

You will hold it for us in safekeeping?


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Rahz] * 1
    #28538253 - 11/11/23 08:08 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

I'll make sure it disappears just like at death. No reason to short change the practice.
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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: Kickle]
    #28538309 - 11/11/23 08:40 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

time is money


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Re: how annoying is death really [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28538344 - 11/11/23 09:07 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Why are so many old people poor then? :confused:


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