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Offlineindra
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v for vendetta remember 5th of november
    #28529006 - 11/04/23 11:58 AM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Today is 4/11/2023.
Its 22:30
Being the eve of 5th November, as culted by V for Vendttaa.
100ug of lsd was taken at 22:10
Quite recently happen to reopen the comic. The character V represents a lone, anti-syndicate, collector of individualistic artefacts, high body agility, stamina, analytical, willpower,(anti-satire?) experimented(study,explore)  & testing (torture) (R&D) figure
V “takes up” vendetta representing the face of all those suppressed and tortured (for example like KGB putting a person into their prison for not following the authority properly), like fellow mates in a prison where  V was put in.
The vendetta also results in the destruction of the syndicate governing the people living in a land by making weapons. 
If we people have to live in compassion and to understand each other why do we need weapons.
We dont live in jungle under the treat of animals, even if we do we can use ai to protect our selves? 
I imagine a AI which protects from one from others. The Ai will be connected to our smartphones. And our smartphones to our minds. 
I remember the time in the 80’s to 90’s, where telephones were not even common. It was days of simplicity?. So much social media born on the seeds of advertising consumerism. 
Its very hypo-critical world. One prefers to get things conveniently and doing so other things are getting inconvenient. And this paradox is what life is all about how to bring the balance

and in buddha/buddhi we find peace, the middle way


below image is from the comic, referring the inspirations of lsd



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Do not try and bend the spoon. Instead... only try to realize the truth, that there is no spoon. Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.


God said let there be light and there was Newton, God said let there be spirit and there was Hofmann


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OfflineIshitoutofmydick
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Re: v for vendetta remember 5th of november [Re: indra]
    #28538599 - 11/11/23 11:46 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

just imo but

you just said a bunch of random stuff like an oddly strung together theory–or maybe just off the wall speculation...

i think most would agree that the movie and character are interesting and trippy...

but that's not unlike many other dystopian movies...

so tbh to me it seems unclear what your main point is...

I think if you're going to be diving into the realm of deepthinking creatively with LSD , it's better to have as sharp of scientific skills as possible like for e.g.  reading / writing skills are important for posting online.


yes , LSD opens your eyes and mind up to seeing things raw, with less of the filter of assuming everything is normal. when we truly see society for what it is,  it is depressing in many many ways.

humans have built up a sense of pride collectively b/c we love to feel like we've attained some degree of success/control and self actualization, but in reality we're relatively weak, codependant, vulnerable, etc...

but anyways :  again, if you're going to speculate on human psych, evolutionary psych, the effect of tech & industry on human society/psych, etc.... I think  it's really  best to have a formal education and writing/exposition skills.

you kind of sound like a bot from a foreign country trying to scam call me or maybe even like the bots on omegle that advertise adult webcams lol just saying  imho


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Re: v for vendetta remember 5th of november [Re: Ishitoutofmydick]
    #28542555 - 11/14/23 11:24 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Quote:

Ishitoutofmydick said:
just imo but

you just said a bunch of random stuff like an oddly strung together theory–or maybe just off the wall speculation...

i think most would agree that the movie and character are interesting and trippy...

but that's not unlike many other dystopian movies...

so tbh to me it seems unclear what your main point is...

I think if you're going to be diving into the realm of deepthinking creatively with LSD , it's better to have as sharp of scientific skills as possible like for e.g.  reading / writing skills are important for posting online.


yes , LSD opens your eyes and mind up to seeing things raw, with less of the filter of assuming everything is normal. when we truly see society for what it is,  it is depressing in many many ways.

humans have built up a sense of pride collectively b/c we love to feel like we've attained some degree of success/control and self actualization, but in reality we're relatively weak, codependant, vulnerable, etc...

but anyways :  again, if you're going to speculate on human psych, evolutionary psych, the effect of tech & industry on human society/psych, etc.... I think  it's really  best to have a formal education and writing/exposition skills.

you kind of sound like a bot from a foreign country trying to scam call me or maybe even like the bots on omegle that advertise adult webcams lol just saying  imho





Wowza. This post is so judgemental. You can have lots of education, apparently, and still not have empathy. It seems to me, correct me if I am wrong, that you are a person who does not entirely let go. That is, one who strives to maintain control of a trip and needs to have intellectual understanding of the ineffable. I don't think you have to equate vulnerability and dependence with weakness. Tripping helps people to see that vulnerability and appreciate how dependent we are on one another. If you have anxiety and need control, that can be threatening and appear as a weakness.

Trying to fully understand subjective experience objectively removes us from the direct experience. While the mechanisms of psychedelia can certainly be understood, I believe that the essence of the experience can only be reflected. Descriptions of trips can only suggest the experience. I am not sure you realized that the OP was on the trip as he wrote?

Your criticism of the way he shared his experience is offensive to me, and it reminds me of people who denigrate abstract art. He wrote about his experience, and you trounced on his vulnerability, which as I said earlier, I see as a positive. I think the OP presented a rather representative sample of what can happen to thoughts and experience while tripping. Your insights into "what society really is" are kind of vaguely presented and smack of depression. Yes, I belive I know what you mean. Tripping breaks down our preconceived notions and habits and allows us to see with fresh eyes things that we had taken for granted. But to me, tripping also goes beyond that by showing us how we are all connected, that our separation is temporary and illusory, and that we are all made of love. I am not being sappy. Tripping has shown me that Love is the central energy. Not romantic love. Rather Love without an object or subject - the pure beingness that underlies all the crap we sort out while in these bodies with this consciousness. Intelligence is not the same as education. Humanity supersedes both in importance. And emotional intelligence is a whole nother area that to me is more important for survival and happiness than intelligence, education or expository writing.

Speaking of education, I wonder if you are familiar with the graphic novel that was OP's focus in this trip? I wasn't but I will take a look. https://archive.org/details/VForVendettaComics/V%20for%20Vendetta%20%28vol%2001%20of%2010%29/page/n9/mode/2up


Thank you OP for sharing your experience with us.

Namaste to both of you.


Edited by Neurotech (11/14/23 11:27 AM)


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