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Bad Father’s (Therapy) * 1
    #28525945 - 11/01/23 09:42 PM (2 months, 25 days ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28496228#28496228

I have talked about him a bit on this site.

But I don’t understand how somebody can be that bad.

I think this could be incredibly therapeutic if we discuss what these people have done. Maybe we could stop trying to justify forgiving them. Maybe even decide to cut these toxic people out of our lives in certain cases.
Hopefully we can learn how to fogive.

Feel free to share. This is probably going to get pretty dark. So before anyone reads too far, just know that there are fathers out there that are absolutely monstrous.

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Re: Worst dad contest [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28525950 - 11/01/23 09:44 PM (2 months, 25 days ago)

True that. I'm not even gonna say what my dad has done cuz like...I literally can't lol. Good thread though :thumbup:


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Re: Worst dad contest [Re: ReynardTheFox] * 1
    #28526040 - 11/01/23 10:57 PM (2 months, 25 days ago)

Had a complete literal psychopath as a father. One time he sat on me and smashed my face into the floor repeatedly until I was unconscious, I woke up in a pool of my own blood and he was still smashing my face into the floor screaming at me.
Eventually made me homeless as a child for smoking pot. It was the only thing that made life bearable.
He taught marketing at a university, his students dubbed him the sociopath of marketing because he was such a fucking underhanded piece of shit.
So many memories of being thrown to the floor and kicked in the stomach until I puked then having my face smashed into my own vomit.
Would watch over all home work and if I made a mistake he would tear up my work and make me start over, even if I could fix it without spoiling the paper. If I protested he would beat the living shit out of me.
Then would whip me with a belt for making him angry enough to beat me. Cause you know , his anger issues were my fault apparently.
If I didn't get a B average I was whipped and socially isolated.
To this day I feel like I can't do anything good enough even though I know it was his toxic shit that made me feel that way.
I'm tortured by self doubt.
He tried to get my kids taken away because I wouldn't let him near them. He lives fat while I struggle and he judges me for it.
I dedicate my time to helping people because it makes my life feel meaningful. I'm fine with being poor, unsuccessful in his eyes. I make a difference in people's lives and I'm not filled with hate.


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Re: Worst dad contest [Re: thirdeyewild] * 1
    #28526046 - 11/01/23 11:01 PM (2 months, 25 days ago)

It sounds like you’ve done a great job trying to survive the abuses you suffered. You managed to make children that aren’t going to be like him.
You succeeded.
Keep doing your best and I’m sure your kids are gonna be a lot better off than you ever were.
I appreciate your response.
You should never let him see those children. He can’t do anything but hurt them.
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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28526662 - 11/02/23 02:11 PM (2 months, 25 days ago)

When I was 7 I was given a letter to sign that acknowledged my misbehaviour was what led to him leaving for another country.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28526677 - 11/02/23 02:23 PM (2 months, 25 days ago)

It isn’t funny what they did to you.

It is funny that they think any document being signed by a seven year old will hold any water legally speaking.

Any jury on earth that looks at a piece of paper that was signed by a seven year old will probably wonder who made them sign it. Of course that totally depends on what court you’re in. They probably just made you sign that to try and brainwash you into thinking they had some piece of paper they could hold over you.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28526773 - 11/02/23 03:40 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

this thread ties into the previous generation having a problem with "what is a real man"
I might blame advertising for getting it wrong.
but it is all of history. especially colonial history.


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28526777 - 11/02/23 03:42 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28526780 - 11/02/23 03:44 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

What can I say, he said he'd turn the car around if my brother and I argued again.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28527065 - 11/02/23 08:02 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

fake information, is not, by nature, truth.
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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28527287 - 11/02/23 11:32 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

My dad still popped in every now and then throughout my teens and we visited a lot of places around the world, he wanted to teach my some kind of system of making agreements with people to form relationships but it got overly complicated from my view and I ended up leading good communication through my own relationship experiences. No need for the 6 As of acknowledge, accept, agree and 3 other A words.

The biggest thing that ever really stuck was the world experience for one, like seeing third world places first hand, and the idea that others don't make me angry, and that I can choose how to respond, e.g. laughing or crying at an attempted insult.

Some dad's do bad things or aren't there, my dad made some errors, failed businesses etc, learnt from them got back out there and chose to put himself before his relationship that didn't work out.

I know he's better off now, and although I missed having a dad growing up, I had a loving mother who raised us well.

On fathers day I was told not to call him a dad because he wasn't one, throughout it all he's at least been honest with me. But I don't think he's shaped my views or beliefs to a significant amount.

I'm not a reflection of my father or influenced by him. He's just a guy that was in my life sporadicly through my life.

There's comes a point where I can't say he had any influence in my life because he couldn't.

The letter thing was for him to feel better about his decisions.

I think that therapy is someone being open to a third party able to acknowledge or understand specific hardships and to be able to suggest potential future outcomes or takeaways that don't have the personal emotions that may make something a traumatic experience.

In not a therapist, I doubt your a therapist, and I don't think it's the job if a therapist to assume things about people, just to be a neutral place for well rounded feedback.

Toxic masculinity is a real issue many face, not sure what issue you have with rgv related to it, I haven't read the thread you linked originally but I might eventually and see where it goes from there.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: sudly] * 2
    #28527349 - 11/03/23 01:05 AM (2 months, 24 days ago)

Quote:

sudly said:...

I think that therapy is someone being open to a third party able to acknowledge or understand specific hardships and to be able to suggest potential future outcomes or takeaways that don't have the personal emotions that may make something a traumatic experience.

In not a therapist, I doubt your a therapist, and I don't think it's the job if a therapist to assume things about people, just to be a neutral place for well rounded feedback.

Toxic masculinity is a real issue many face, not sure what issue you have with rgv related to it, I haven't read the thread you linked originally but I might eventually and see where it goes from there.




I think you have a good grasp of this issue.
we should bear in mind that fathers are people too, just like mothers, they screw up occasionally without ill intent. Often they suffer remorse for imperfections that we imagine we might be free from.

Nobody is free of their own ideas of imperfection, and often that is unrealistic. In any case, things turn out as they do from all influences, not just the fathers or the mothers or any other specific kernel of unsatisfactoriness or imperfection.

If we can hold up undistorted mirrors for ourselves and for each other that is best, and that means plain light can reflect and we can share what is in the light according to our viewpoints.

It does not mean we project our favorite theories onto each other and then get frustrated by others' positions. We have to expect others to have different positions and different views.

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This forum is for discussion of views. Start as many threads as you think makes sense, but once it is started, the thread belongs to the forum, not to the OP. The forum has its own rules - it is not a monopoly game, it can continue after you die, after you quit, or after you change your mind about the whole thing.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28527378 - 11/03/23 01:58 AM (2 months, 24 days ago)

How do you say goodbye to your kids after breaking up with their mother after what could have become assualt, but became an accidental self injury instead.

Is there any good way to do it? How do you handle it? How do you tell them you want to leave the country for good? I think he figured out his own way of doing things. I was too young to understand what it meant, my brother always resented it.

I think that does influence the shape of someone growing up, but that there's so much more else to shaping it than that experience alone. What didn't happen doesn't haunt me anymore.


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly]
    #28527655 - 11/03/23 09:38 AM (2 months, 24 days ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
How do you say goodbye to your kids after breaking up with their mother after what could have become assualt, but became an accidental self injury instead.



Just let them know you’re going on holiday. That you want to see them again soon once you’re able to.
You need to go spend some time on yourself.

That’s just my suggestion.


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Re: RedGreenVines explanation [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28527783 - 11/03/23 11:04 AM (2 months, 24 days ago)

You presume incorrectly that my dream was fake, but probably also presume incorrectly that you know how to interpret dreams.

maybe you are good with your own dreams for your own purposes, but I see the makings of a charlattan, and I am not happy to see that going on.

anyway I do not try to undermine you, and I support you when I can, but generally you take yourself too seriously. C'mon, you know that. This is not about me.


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Re: RedGreenVines explanation [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28528010 - 11/03/23 03:03 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

It can be fun to try and interpret dreams, but I think it's like if someone is doing a ritual or spell, and it's more relatable to say they enjoy the ritual, but don't actually expect the effects to realise.

I don't think the complexity of a dream state can adequately be found through verbal means. 

I'm rather aware of what cold reading is, and I'm not convinced that dream interpretations are necessarily different.

The interpretations can be relevant in happenstance, but are not expected to be.

I don't know much detail about earth Taoism, but the Tao in warhammer 40k believe in the concept of the greater good, and although they mean well, they are still sometimes tricked by the whims of those like the durakai.

In the end I think some users recognise fluffy interpretations and have less patience in expressing their disagreement. You can try and succeed so many times, but sometimes we just want to sit back and have a giggle.


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My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528019 - 11/03/23 03:11 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

The link to Taoism is on my profile. First thing.

The difference between my dream interpretations and cold reading is the psychology and dream interpretation I have studied. RGV can disagree with my education if he wants. But I have done real work in my life to understand the human psyche and dreams people have.
They are my personal iterpretations and everyone won’t all agree.
Please don’t dismiss my studies as spells again. I take it as an offense.
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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528055 - 11/03/23 03:43 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

You've studied the psychology of dream interpretation?

I think people can be respected but not that ideas should be.

A personal interpretation of someone else's dream sounds like it discounts the personal interpretation of the individual who had the dream, given their own life history and experience as a background context.

Like I have my own interpretation of last night's dream, but what is yours?

I went to hospital and my mum tried to pick me up to carry me to a room but I said my kidney or lower back hurt, so I walked there myself. I went to hospital because I was talking to a doctor and wasn't able to cognitively perform at a level that is considered independent.

I know what this means to me, so what is your interpretation?


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528068 - 11/03/23 03:52 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

This is my interpretation.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28528063#28528063
I do ask for more detatils if it seems difficult to understand.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528078 - 11/03/23 03:58 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Dream interpretation might be a personal endeavour, but not something you can assume about someone else.

If you had all the information of their life experience you could maybe have more hits, but the cold reading nature of your approach is apparent to me.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528083 - 11/03/23 04:03 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

It’s not for me to ask for someones heartsong on dream one. But it does provide insight into the dreamers.
Where they are psychologically.
You get an intimate moment with them.
Most people instinctually do tell me some setting for when they had a dream. Just because they do want a good analysis.

It would be better if I knew everything about them though I’m sure.🤣


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528090 - 11/03/23 04:07 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Well yes, the more you do it the warmer or hotter your reading becomes.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528094 - 11/03/23 04:11 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Well, I can’t very well expect somebody to tell me their entire life story. Just to describe a dream to me can I?


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528104 - 11/03/23 04:19 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

No you can't, and even then, I don't think we can expect there to be any single interpretation of a dream, not consistently by any means.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528110 - 11/03/23 04:22 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

This entirely depends on the description that I am given to work with. But I believe my interpretations are accurate. It is only my opinion though. Feel free to drop one in there sometime and see what you think.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528122 - 11/03/23 04:36 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

As I see it you want to do qualitative grafting but you don't have a quantitative framework to work with.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528127 - 11/03/23 04:39 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Lol
Wut

I want to help people get a better insight into their psyche with a quick dream interpretation.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528130 - 11/03/23 04:41 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

And that's admirable but my experience so far has been indifferent to cold reading.

I don't believe dreams have inherent interpretations or meanings. They may reflect some life experiences of the individual having them, but I don't think they hold a key to personal understanding.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528132 - 11/03/23 04:42 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Then, why did you post that comment in it just now. Talking about toxic masculinity. Can you delete that please. I think you posted it in the wrong place by accident.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528144 - 11/03/23 04:48 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

You posted it there.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528150 - 11/03/23 04:50 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

This is the thread discussing Father’s.
The other thread is discussing dream interpretation.
You’re pulling a classic RGV right now lol
You made me miss him. I’m unignoring.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528163 - 11/03/23 04:59 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

No mum's allowed or what?


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528165 - 11/03/23 05:02 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

I dont think you noticed a random comment about toxic masculinity is now in my dream thread with zero context…

Moms are not the topic on this thread.
Worst Dad contest is the title after all.
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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528172 - 11/03/23 05:06 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

You posted your interpretation of my dream in that thread, and I responded in explaining why I thought your interpretation sounded laden with elements of toxic masculinity.

I am aware of that.

You chose to post my response to this thread in that thread. You are not the arbiter of what place every word or sentence belongs in this forum.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528176 - 11/03/23 05:08 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Oh, I thought your discussion about toxic masculinity you were having with me here. Had poured in there inappropriately. My bad.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528179 - 11/03/23 05:09 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

You brought it there.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528182 - 11/03/23 05:12 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

You asked for a dream interpretation. I’m not gonna post that here. In a different thread. About a different topic….

I have a different thread about dream interpretation. I posted it there. That is the place where I do those.

Then you bringing the conversation we were having here. To that other thread, where we are discussing the dream you asked me to interpret. Is out of context, confusing, and inappropriate. I would like you to remove it please.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528193 - 11/03/23 05:19 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Then delete your comment referring to dream interpretations and lead by example instead of huffing that though shalt not do what I do.

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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528234 - 11/03/23 05:50 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

You’re welcome to disagree. But I’m not gonna take down something that helped people and is also something I enjoy doing.
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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528258 - 11/03/23 06:14 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

You brought your dream interpretation thread into this thread, then copied my response from this thread into your dream interpretation thread and then asked me to delete my comments on it.

Why do you want to delete an opinion different to yours?

I can only assume that toxic masculinity strikes a nerve with you as it's presumably something you've dealt with at some point in your life, maybe related to the expectations you thought your father had of you that you felt you couldn't live up to, or that your efforts weren't acknowledge by your father, infact quite the opposite.

Plus you've titled this thread headliner as 'my work and studies' which is what your dream interpretation thread is supposed to be, not this worst father award/therapy thread.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: sudly]
    #28528259 - 11/03/23 06:15 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

I thought you had posted it there by accident.


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Re: My work and studies. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28528352 - 11/03/23 07:24 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

I'm sorry I disappointed you father.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28530224 - 11/05/23 09:05 AM (2 months, 22 days ago)

My stepmother groomed me as a teen, and I eventually became the primary male in her life, including sex.  I was a virgin until that.  Lasted for a year and a half.  My father eventually found out, and he divorced her. 

But 2 years later he remarried her.  I took part in the remarriage ceremony at a church, because they asked me to. I wish I would have declined. For the next 20 years my dad would pressure me to show up for family gatherings and specifically Mother's Day.  It was like a charade, and now feels abusive.  Making me show up and pretend everything was OK.  After family dinners, I'd have meth ready in the car so I could get spun before my drive home.

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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28530329 - 11/05/23 09:53 AM (2 months, 22 days ago)

This kind of sounds like your dad enjoyed being cucked by you. Very dark.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28532245 - 11/06/23 07:56 PM (2 months, 20 days ago)

My dad blamed me.  Since I'm a guy, I can't be raped, ya know . . .

I must have wanted it.  I felt some relief when he died last year.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28535020 - 11/09/23 01:32 AM (2 months, 18 days ago)

I am probably gonna feel the same when my father passes.

Do you need to talk about it?


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28552306 - 11/22/23 12:37 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Sorry life has had done this to you. If you believe in fate or destiny. or what ever the fuck life decides to bring us.

But life seems to fuck us all. One way or another...

Really is the only way im here... i got fucked.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: Gray Hound]
    #28552310 - 11/22/23 12:41 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Free therapy right there in my signature if you ever change your mind.
I’m a cool therapist too. I would suggest you take some psychedelics with your therapy.


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    #28552365 - 11/22/23 03:25 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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    #28552553 - 11/22/23 08:30 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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But life seems to fuck us all. One way or another...




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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28552671 - 11/22/23 10:48 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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what motivates you to pretend to be a therapist?



What motivates you to question me so often?

Because I feel like I don’t need to explain my modus operandi for being alive to you again.
I enjoy it. I want to help people. That is why I do it. That is why I am pursuing schooling in that regard.

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    #28552702 - 11/22/23 11:29 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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redgreenvines said:
what motivates you to pretend to be a therapist?



What motivates you to question me so often?

Because I feel like I don’t need to explain my modus operandi for being alive to you again.
I enjoy it. I want to help people. That is why I do it. That is why I am pursuing schooling in that regard.

Do you need therapy?🙃



That's interesting, you are hoping to be a therapist and are starting your practice early.
I think  you should check in your region for the rules governing registered therapists and wannabe's.
It seems to me that a history of offering a free therapy service is not compatible to receiving certification.
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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28552707 - 11/22/23 11:32 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

I think you’re mistaken. I’ve never claimed to be an officially licensed registered anything. I’m just offering opinions. I’m trying to help people with free therapy.
You see that’s the term. Free

This in no way impacts my ability to pursue this as a career. I think you’re just trying to convince me to stop because you don’t like it. Please stop doing that.

It’s not like when I get licensed it’s gonna say Genesis Corrupted on the piece of paper.

Now that I think about it too. Your argument makes no sense. What about little kids that wanted to be psychiatrist when they grew up. They pretended to be a psychiatrist for eight years analyzing their friends. So I guess they can’t become psychiatrist now according to you.

Now stop pretending you don’t want to. And step into my pillow fort office, and receive your free Therapy. :lol:


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    #28552766 - 11/22/23 12:19 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

I'm trying to make it less of a carnival.
contests and public dream fortune telling while pretending to be a therapist is a bit over the top.

From here it looks like your activity should be supervised.


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    #28552776 - 11/22/23 12:24 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Careful about giving your opinions! He might ban you if he disagrees :wink:


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    #28552797 - 11/22/23 12:36 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

:popcorn:
The "will they won't they" is killing me!
Way this ends up, IMO, is that RGV adopts Genny and teaches him all about the brain.
When RGV's vessel is spent (not wishing it on you mate, may you have much fulfilling time ahead) he simply says:
"I'm ready for that therapy now, Genesis my dear child."
Genny can scarcely believe his continued luck (I mean RGV already shares his lysergamides and salvia soaked cig papers with him!) and as such fails to notice the plethora of consciousness transferral equipment RGV has wheeled into his games room/office/post creation station.
"So how does that make you feel?" Inquires the youngling, shortly into the session.
"I guess you could say I'm IN TWO MINDS ABOUT IT!" croaks RG like a maniac, who in a sudden uncharacteristic burst of energy plunges a neural thingymajig directly into Gens brainstem and hits the big red TRANSFER button.
RGVCorrupted then returns to shroomery and he just starts POSTING. Like, all the time. Smoke coming off the fuckin keybaord and all sorts. Noone bats an eyelid.
Genesis (in spirit form, trapped in the Bardos watching the results of this switcharoo from the astral) finally realises the true therapy was the fun they had along the way.

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    #28552805 - 11/22/23 12:42 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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    #28553055 - 11/22/23 05:09 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

The world is am eminent attack on me personally every second. I have to breath air every second of the day, just to stay alive.
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    #28553057 - 11/22/23 05:10 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28553358 - 11/22/23 10:15 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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I think you’re mistaken. I’ve never claimed to be an officially licensed registered anything. I’m just offering opinions. I’m trying to help people with free therapy.
You see that’s the term. Free

This in no way impacts my ability to pursue this as a career. I think you’re just trying to convince me to stop because you don’t like it. Please stop doing that.

It’s not like when I get licensed it’s gonna say Genesis Corrupted on the piece of paper.

Now that I think about it too. Your argument makes no sense. What about little kids that wanted to be psychiatrist when they grew up. They pretended to be a psychiatrist for eight years analyzing their friends. So I guess they can’t become psychiatrist now according to you.

Now stop pretending you don’t want to. And step into my pillow fort office, and receive your free Therapy. :lol:




You don't have to claim to be certified to seem like you're attempting to give the impression that you are actually a therapist...ya know, because you keep creepily trying to get people to take therapy from you.  I'm picking up on a good bit of annoyance at you from other people in this thread.  Maybe re-read some of it because I really don't think RGV (for one example) was treating you like you took it

I'm gonna give you some benefit of the doubt because I think your heart is in the right place, but you come across as someone who is somewhat immature and inexperienced but wants to be looked up to so bad they can't stand it.  In short, you're trying so hard that it's annoying

Also, you post so damn much it's like half the threads here were started by you and the rest you're just posting in.  What else do you have time to do aside from posting here?  Seriously, I want to know what else you spend time on

Lastly, have you seen how many users ignore you?  You've been here 3 months and have 14 people ignoring you.  I've been here 6 years and have 6 ignoring me and I am a straight up asshole to people sometimes.  You're on pace to have 56 ignores in a year compared to my rate of 1/yr
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    #28553415 - 11/22/23 11:38 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

:shrug: Have you tried to ignore the thread?


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    #28553766 - 11/23/23 09:19 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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    #28553772 - 11/23/23 09:24 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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    #28553806 - 11/23/23 09:43 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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:shrug: Have you tried to ignore the thread?




I don't have conversations with people that can't respond any better than that so unless you want to do better in your next response, this will be it for me

Don't PM me to give half ass answers to questions I asked in your thread
That's fucked up and weird that you couldn't just answer directly for everyone in the conversation to see

You have no real sensitivity for reading people or knowing how you're coming off to others despite thinking you do.  Even the title of this thread, which as you predicted brought out some truly horrible traumatic experiences, is not cool.  Worst dad contest?  You wanna make having a horrendously violent and abusive father into some kind of thing that you win?  Believe me, everyone that posted a story here about their dad in no way feels like he won shit because of being abused

At worst, it looks almost like you're making a joke out of people's trauma while trying to look like a white knight, and at the very least it shows how tone deaf you are

I highly suggest you think about this shit and the number of ignores you have.  I know you said you don't care but that only points to something else I already thought which is that you aren't here to help people, you do things for yourself, for attention, to feel like you're a good person, basically to fake your way into some sort of good guy role.  Sorry dude, but I see thru it and I can tell other people are starting to let you know as well.  A decent socially normal person knows how to act when they are the new guy in the room and knows it isn't cool to walk in a stranger and completely set a new tone for the place.  Either change your tone or post less.  Either way you're fucking annoying and most people aren't as quick to tell someone as I am but there's a lot of other members that feel the same way


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    #28553813 - 11/23/23 09:47 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

I wanted to put to bed so you didn’t do this again on my thread.
Weird that a car accident is a half assed excuse to you.

I have access to my phone quite often during my recovery. I enjoy using this as a therapeutic tool. That is why I post. I thought the ignore thread taught this lesson pretty well. I don’t care how many people ignore me at all. It’s not something I’m trying to do. But I don’t care if it happens. I have opinions that people don’t agree with. They’re going to ignore those opinions because they can’t face them. that’s how most of my ignores have been gained.
I went to tge flatearther thread and I looked ove then destroyed every stupid theory with Enlil and Koods until they stopped posting. They ran out.
Then I went to anti-VAX and I tried to figure out what their modus operandi was. Thats going to get me a couple ignores.
It isn’t just something that happened. I basically enticed these ignores.
Just because I’m trying to have real conversations with people. That is going to happen.
I don’t care because the therapy has been helping. I enjoy the site. I enjoy the community. People can ignore me. It’s an easily used tool. I don’t want to be ignored by lots of people. But I think my therapy is more important than pleasing everyone on a giant website.
This obviously isn’t a contest. It’s a very hard topic. I thought making it a kind of cheeky title would let people lower their guard enough to be able to talk about such a difficult topic. It isn’t for me. It’s just so people can express these things. I was really mad at my father. I thought this would help people like me. It did.

If it bothers you, I’ll change the title.
But yeah, I don’t see why this level of aggression is appropriate.
I want to help people. It’s not for me. It’s for anybody that wants to participate.

Did you ever want to contribute to this thread?
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    #28553846 - 11/23/23 10:14 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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I don’t want to be ignored by lots of people.





Then you should think about what I said.  You're racking up ignores faster than I've ever seen anyone

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But I think my therapy is more important than pleasing everyone on a giant website.





The two things you put together in that sentence have nothing to do with each other.  Your supposition there is that you're just being yourself while posting here and that posting like you do is part of your therapy so it doesn't matter if you're putting people off but that is a load of bullshit

I have a rule against ignoring people and haven't put anyone on ignore in a long time but I'm getting close to making an exception for you.  I won't be trying to help you be less annoying again though because I've already said more than I should have needed to

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    #28553849 - 11/23/23 10:16 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

K
Quite a few people have told me that my presence has been nothing but good.
But I’m different.
A lot of people don’t like that.


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    #28553856 - 11/23/23 10:21 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

Dude seriously fuck off.  While I'm responding to your post you edit and add so much shit that it's ridiculous.  You aren't gonna get it and I'm gonna love watching this place get tired of you

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    #28554077 - 11/23/23 02:02 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

@GenesisCorrupted,
I think you misunderstand the dynamic of the forums at the Shroomery.
the overall topic of each forum is fixed,
there are a few rules for each forum,
then people start discussions, and anyone can participate.

if you have a need that does not correspond with the structure you
  • speak to management and
  • raise a crew that back your new idea and
  • they make a new forum for you if it suits the overall shroomery mandate
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the discussions are not private rooms, or stores in a mall, so if you intend to put up a shingle here
eg
"free therapy --->here<--- free therapy"

you get a discussion, in which you are not entitled to tell people what they can say in your therapy room, because it is not your therapy room.
it is a public discussion thread encompassing some group of topics that has already been established as a place of discussions

it is not your playground where you tell other kids to get out.

your personal therapy activity idea might have a place here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/42

but they may be too serious about professional quality help. what we are doing here in this forum is about ideas, and trying to be honest and informed.

Maybe the https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/42 ???

maybe someplace different altogether. or start a personal blog and post here the address and then let it rest.

at the same time,
some people have been working out things here that do bother them cognitively.

Still it has not been "therapy" it has been like conversation at a bar - very casual, and in my case I am trying to be consistent with regards to my synthesis about memory formation and perceptive reflexes, and I admit it is bleeding edge.

you and I have actually clashed here and in another forum because if anything I am on about is true, then there is no such thing as NREM dreams.

nREM dreams will not have detectable theta or alpha frequency activity, so the idea is they are not dreams, they have no mental content, mental content requires alpha or theta support in all cases.

But you can say there are NREM dreams and why and I can say why not as long as we want to.

this is a forum where disagreement also works, it is invited, while in spirituality, nobody is supposed to diss anyone else's ideas.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28554348 - 11/23/23 07:29 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

(RGV this comment does not apply to you.)

When you guys are ready to have an actual discussion. I’ll be here waiting.

Until then, have a good time with all that masculinity that’s keeping you from seeking help.

You need to want help to receive it.
If y’all are afraid of that. And you need to throw rocks at it. Because you don’t understand it. You’re not ready for Therapy.

I mean really, the guy talking about killing himself. Was I not supposed to offer Therapy. I don’t understand what the point of you people is. You just want him to kill himself? Because I don’t. I guess that means I care. :shrug:


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    #28554435 - 11/23/23 08:41 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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    #28554474 - 11/23/23 09:51 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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Gray Hound said:
The world is am eminent attack on me personally every second. I have to breath air every second of the day, just to stay alive.
And if I decide to stop breathing air. I am fucking dead.




Is this what you thought was someone talking about killing themselves?

Sounds to me like venting frustrations of having to deal with the responsibilities of being human.


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    #28554588 - 11/24/23 02:24 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Hey GC, thanks for making this thread.

Haven’t read through it all yet, and even though I dislike my Dad sometimes, I know he’s a good person, and I love him. This thread, when I remember it, will help me to put things into perspective when I’m grumpy with my Dad next.

I cannot fathom what it would be like to go through some of the things I’ve read here, and it tortures me to know that kids go through things like this. It is absolutely horrible.

Just wanna say that I really look up to you guys who’ve had such a hard upbringing and have still managed to turn out as respectable adults. I can’t think of what to say other than well fucking done. Sorry for swearing but I feel like it needed the emphasis.

Also, I’m not sure what the beef is that you have with RGV, GC, but he’s a very wise dude, and a well intentioned man I think. If it seems like he’s criticising you have you thought that maybe he’s just interested in helping you get to the truth? Because he only seems to be interested in getting to the truth of all things to me. I don’t think he’s the type of person that would be deliberately hunting down your threads just to disagree with whatever it is you’re saying. Food for thought.

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    #28554592 - 11/24/23 02:34 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Honestly, I really like  RGV. Like genuinely. He seems like a really cool guy.
I just have different opinions. And it seems like he wants to make fun of me for it. Psychedelic gummy bears?

I think we could’ve even gotten past our differences in philosophy. But then he scientifically disagreed with me. I have experienced non-sleep dreams. He has done some studies in which he has come to the conclusion that is impossible.

I love doing dream interpretations. It’s my favorite thread that I think I’ve gotten to make. So having somebody that I felt welcomed me to the community. Somebody I genuinely liked reading the comments of. Then having them try to insult me and undermine me in my favorite thread constantly. Made me feel some animosity towards him.

This made me present a lot of evidence to back up my claim of Nrem-sleep dreams existing.

He told me his evidence was his signature. Which wasn’t enough for me. So I asked him to stop contributing to it.
Agree to disagree.

Which really sucks. Because honestly, he was kind of the coolest person I initially got to meet on this community. He’s my most conflicted review.
I literally go back and change it almost once a day.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28554597 - 11/24/23 02:50 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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@GenesisCorrupted,
your personal therapy activity idea might have a place here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/42

But you can say there are NREM dreams and why and I can say why not as long as we want to.

this is a forum where disagreement also works, it is invited, while in spirituality, nobody is supposed to diss anyone else's ideas.




Truthfully. I didn’t even see that until recently.
I wanted to offer Therapy . I thought that was psychology.
Only recently did I even notice that the main point of this form is discussion and debate. Which is not what I am trying to offer here.

A very salient point. I thought you were just messing with me for the sake of it. I had to go read the forum board today to figure out why. I guess if you guys are used to questioning everything that’s posted here of course you’re going to question what I’m doing.

But I’m trying to stop somebody from hurting themselves. So it feels a little hurtful in the grand scheme. That people are trying to debate that I should try to do that.

I wouldn’t mind having it moved to wellness. That seems appropriate. But this is psychological. So I am conflicted. Although this has definitely relieved strain. I just want people to get better…
RGV go check your updated review from me.
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    #28554629 - 11/24/23 04:12 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

You can have non rem dreams, that generally arent as vivid as rem dreams, but what do you mean by non sleep dream?

I just had an extremely vivid dream that lasted 3 hours in real time, I wrote down my take right after. But I have no idea if it was rem or not or what if any mix there was and speculating on it would be a waste of my time given I wasn't under laboratory observations.

But I can certainly reflect and interpret on what if any meaning can be had from it. That's what I'll be doing shortly.

Maybe you feel attacked or something, but maybe your ideas are just being challenged for what they are. Give it some thought, and maybe remember the perspective of what two horns can do in sand.

I don't know if it's wet or not, for the example it's dry, but that's a wayward thing anyway, we'll see.


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    #28554643 - 11/24/23 04:38 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

the science on NREM dreams is weakly based upon self reporting, and a difficulty in assessing REM.

During REM either alpha or (usually) theta rhythms are detected (they are not ever detected in NREM - therefore REM is associated with the alpha and theta neural activation waves***), and events that can be correlated with experiencing are visible in many areas of the cortex - this indicates a scientific record of dream events. Self reporting does not work for NDE's or for NREM dreams, those investigative forays are deeply flawed. Self reporting can be made up on the instant of questioning, and nobody can determine the truth.

NREM dreams can be co-opted to support consciousness that is not brain based, and I think that direction in science is also flawed. The literature about brain and behaviour is full of good and flawed approaches, so a person interested in it has to keep their mind open and follow the most reliable approaches, like for example, the fact that memory is an associative function.

(***) It is actually possible to have alpha or theta activation without REM, but it is extremely rare, and to ascertain this we need accurate EEG's accompanying the NREM time series detection of the event.

I would avoid referencing this fringe aspect of possibilities as a key to your dream therapies.


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    #28554653 - 11/24/23 05:19 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Genny, you seem like a fun & sound fella- I can relate to your what your underlying intentions seem to be, for real.
But I also reckon it's largely your M.O that brings a lot of the resistance you seem get from people on here, resistance you fight again and again.
I see a sort of performative aspect to many of your posts, your prescence and how they link up- that might just be by the nature of this being an open forum- but I see it as going a little beyond that into the region of you wanting to be seen to do/be 'good'.

Look, for example, at the weight you put on how you think others percieve your opinions, prime or most recent example being where you tell RGV to recheck your review of him... Whatever the inent, it can come across a bit pompous.
My compulsion to make this comment is mainly because I've long been so like that too, offering unsolicited advice to everyone around me in a reactive way because GOD FORBID it's ME who has a problem, who has to develop, who is more often wrong than right...
Doesn't mean I don't have true inentions toward those around me, but when I always need the world to line up just so for me to be able to feel at peace/comfortable- is it likely that the whole external world is what needs addressed?
These desires to help can run amok and become something much less useful.

Even still I catch myself trying to ingratiate myself with shroomerites who I look up to and so on.
The TLDR being trying to feel some sembelance of self worth by manipulating a situation to get someone else to point it out to me as if it were their idea.
It's fucking embarassing and cringey and it doesn't make me feel good when I'm obsessing about it after the fact but sometimes these well trodden paths seem to walk themselves while "we" are just along for the ride.
Reactivity in a nutshell.

It's seemingly part of the selfs endless P.R campaign of "Look how good, look how approachable, look how useful!" many of us have going on within, an attempt to heal mistakes of the past by leaving no doubt as to the virtue we like to think we have grown into.

Lets say I was learning to weld, with the intention of becoming a great fabricator for my community- would it be appropriate for me to outright offer "free welding" to randos out of kindness as I develop my skills? I don't think it would.
My unqualified attempts could put people in danger at worst and somewhere where my misguided attempt needs repaired by a professional, thereby leaving them in a slightly worse spot than where they started, at best.
So perhaps by offering 'therapy' instead of treating each interaction with people with the nuance it calls for isn't the best approach to demonstrate the love you have in you that clearly wants putting to some use.


One of the tops comments on that video is the T.S Eliot quote:
“Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm; but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.”

It's not to say you're not nice, it just seems like a personality quirk that you're not really open to acknowledging...
You elude to being in some sort of recovery from an accident, so with all due respect how about using more of the time to really immerse yourself in a bunch of damn good books, perhaps increasing the length or effort involved in your meditation sessions (assuming you have one) or any number of activities that would genuinely serve you in good stead moving forward- rather than having to rehash the same bits and bobs time & again on the mushroom website?
:twocents:
Don't get me wrong this place is great, I love it and get a lot out of talking to my friends on here, reading threads, seeing dank canopies and any amounts of the delightful fuckery that goes on but I think we can all do well to take a step out of the roles we play from time to time if only to better appreciate and enjoy the sense of community available here.
Several times this year I've seen myself get puffed up after a few posts that I deem as being well recieved then get embarassed over something janky I say and ban myself for a month for my lack of impulse control :lol:

Remember your title mate: you've got student and a Daoist in there so why not make a concerted affort to let the way teach you and by cultivating the more receptive parts of yourself, more YIN & perhaps you'll ease into a way of being able to help others that is less obscured by your expectations/agenda.
I'd rather count among my friends, one genuine student rather than ten questionable teachers.
Discerning compassion.
All things considered, I hope you see this comment for what it is intended to be, not as outright advice as much as an attempt to relate and share potential insight from another young guy who seems to share many similar foibles.
:drwario:
Step into my office: I prescribe a careful viewing of Pixars 'Soul' and some I.V Sharon Salzberg, stat!
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    #28554702 - 11/24/23 07:12 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

You make a some relevant insightful points I can relate to - such as below.  I used to complain to JSB that many of my posts here cultivated various types of disturbances within me.  He always told me my posts were fine.  I disagreed.  Many bother me!  I ban myself from here periodically.

BTW, I :heart: the Sharon Salzberg reference!

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... Whatever the intent, it can come across a bit pompous.
My compulsion to make this comment is mainly because I've long been so like that too, offering unsolicited advice to everyone around me in a reactive way because GOD FORBID it's ME who has a problem, who has to develop, who is more often wrong than right...
Doesn't mean I don't have true inentions toward those around me, but when I always need the world to line up just so for me to be able to feel at peace/comfortable- is it likely that the whole external world is what needs addressed?
These desires to help can run amok and become something much less useful.

Don't get me wrong this place is great, I love it and get a lot out of talking to my friends on here, reading threads, seeing dank canopies and any amounts of the delightful fuckery that goes on but I think we can all do well to take a step out of the roles we play from time to time if only to better appreciate and enjoy the sense of community available here.
Several times this year I've seen myself get puffed up after a few posts that I deem as being well recieved then get embarassed over something janky I say and ban myself for a month for my lack of impulse control :lol:




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    #28554713 - 11/24/23 07:30 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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You make a some relevant insightful points I can relate to - such as below.  I used to complain to JSB that many of my posts here cultivated various types of disturbances within me.  He always told me my posts were fine.  I disagreed.  Many bother me!  I ban myself from here periodically.

BTW, I :heart: the Sharon Salzberg reference!




:thumbup:
Yeah, personally, I often end up finding value in feeling those disturbances, doesn't mean it's a 'nice' feeling though.
And then comes trying to deal with it appropriately without causing more disturbance to myself...
Do you learn from the ones that bother you, you reckon?

I seem to do one, where I make a joke out of my insecurity/ want for external approval so as to make it seem like I don't care before immediately realising how transparent it comes across.Those always bug the hell out of me :lol: :rolleyes:

Also, I love Sharon Salzberg too!
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    #28554731 - 11/24/23 07:54 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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Yeah, personally, I often end up finding value in feeling those disturbances, doesn't mean it's a 'nice' feeling though.
And then comes trying to deal with it appropriately without causing more disturbance to myself...
Do you learn from the ones that bother you, you reckon?




Absolutely!  I've learned a lot!  On one hand, I passionately despise text only communication, as it can feel so inhuman and so inhumane to not partake of the emotional nourishment of eye contact and facial expressions, and a handshake or even a hug.  Yet, I'm overcome with fascination and curiosity when I read someone's words that make my blood boil and my head gets hot and my hands sweat.  Now that's a fucking awesome education!  I ask myself, "What the hell is going on?!"


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    #28554770 - 11/24/23 08:43 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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Honestly, I really like  RGV. Like genuinely. He seems like a really cool guy.
I just have different opinions. And it seems like he wants to make fun of me for it. Psychedelic gummy bears?





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    #28554772 - 11/24/23 08:45 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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Absolutely!  I've learned a lot!  On one hand, I passionately despise text only communication, as it can feel so inhuman and so inhumane to not partake of the emotional nourishment of eye contact and facial expressions, and a handshake or even a hug.  Yet, I'm overcome with fascination and curiosity when I read someone's words that make my blood boil and my head gets hot and my hands sweat.  Now that's a fucking awesome education!  I ask myself, "What the hell is going on?!"



:awesomenod:
Agreed on the pitfalls of text only communication. On that note have seen many peers, and myself, failing to grasp why the subtlties of in person communication get lost in translation.
Maybe it's more of a problem for certain generations onward who have grown up in a time where screen communication is so prominent.

Response wise, it's definitely interesting and as you say, awesome education to feel the extent of our own reactions to words on a screen- I know I often project the worst possible tone on stuff I disagree with- even if none is explicitly implied. Just one way that can really muddy up the actual content of the message...


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    #28554773 - 11/24/23 08:46 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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Genny, you seem like a fun & sound fella- I can relate to your what your underlying intentions seem to be, for real.
But I also reckon it's largely your M.O that brings a lot of the resistance you seem get from people on here, resistance you fight again and again.
I see a sort of performative aspect to many of your posts, your prescence and how they link up- that might just be by the nature of this being an open forum- but I see it as going a little beyond that into the region of you wanting to be seen to do/be 'good'.

Look, for example, at the weight you put on how you think others percieve your opinions, prime or most recent example being where you tell RGV to recheck your review of him... Whatever the inent, it can come across a bit pompous.
My compulsion to make this comment is mainly because I've long been so like that too, offering unsolicited advice to everyone around me in a reactive way because GOD FORBID it's ME who has a problem, who has to develop, who is more often wrong than right...
Doesn't mean I don't have true inentions toward those around me, but when I always need the world to line up just so for me to be able to feel at peace/comfortable- is it likely that the whole external world is what needs addressed?
These desires to help can run amok and become something much less useful.

Even still I catch myself trying to ingratiate myself with shroomerites who I look up to and so on.
The TLDR being trying to feel some sembelance of self worth by manipulating a situation to get someone else to point it out to me as if it were their idea.
It's fucking embarassing and cringey and it doesn't make me feel good when I'm obsessing about it after the fact but sometimes these well trodden paths seem to walk themselves while "we" are just along for the ride.
Reactivity in a nutshell.

It's seemingly part of the selfs endless P.R campaign of "Look how good, look how approachable, look how useful!" many of us have going on within, an attempt to heal mistakes of the past by leaving no doubt as to the virtue we like to think we have grown into.

Lets say I was learning to weld, with the intention of becoming a great fabricator for my community- would it be appropriate for me to outright offer "free welding" to randos out of kindness as I develop my skills? I don't think it would.
My unqualified attempts could put people in danger at worst and somewhere where my misguided attempt needs repaired by a professional, thereby leaving them in a slightly worse spot than where they started, at best.
So perhaps by offering 'therapy' instead of treating each interaction with people with the nuance it calls for isn't the best approach to demonstrate the love you have in you that clearly wants putting to some use.


One of the tops comments on that video is the T.S Eliot quote:
“Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm; but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.”

It's not to say you're not nice, it just seems like a personality quirk that you're not really open to acknowledging...
You elude to being in some sort of recovery from an accident, so with all due respect how about using more of the time to really immerse yourself in a bunch of damn good books, perhaps increasing the length or effort involved in your meditation sessions (assuming you have one) or any number of activities that would genuinely serve you in good stead moving forward- rather than having to rehash the same bits and bobs time & again on the mushroom website?
:twocents:
Don't get me wrong this place is great, I love it and get a lot out of talking to my friends on here, reading threads, seeing dank canopies and any amounts of the delightful fuckery that goes on but I think we can all do well to take a step out of the roles we play from time to time if only to better appreciate and enjoy the sense of community available here.
Several times this year I've seen myself get puffed up after a few posts that I deem as being well recieved then get embarassed over something janky I say and ban myself for a month for my lack of impulse control :lol:

Remember your title mate: you've got student and a Daoist in there so why not make a concerted affort to let the way teach you and by cultivating the more receptive parts of yourself, more YIN & perhaps you'll ease into a way of being able to help others that is less obscured by your expectations/agenda.
I'd rather count among my friends, one genuine student rather than ten questionable teachers.
Discerning compassion.
All things considered, I hope you see this comment for what it is intended to be, not as outright advice as much as an attempt to relate and share potential insight from another young guy who seems to share many similar foibles.
:drwario:
Step into my office: I prescribe a careful viewing of Pixars 'Soul' and some I.V Sharon Salzberg, stat!
:nyan:
All the best man.
:namaste:




This is an excellent post, however, OP isn't interested in constructive criticism and dismisses without thought any notions that go against what he already believes.  If that doesn't work, he'll pretend you said something else and adress the thing he made up that you said

These are all traits that great therapists have...
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    #28554780 - 11/24/23 08:57 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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This is an excellent post, however, OP isn't interested in constructive criticism and dismisses without thought any notions that go against what he already believes.  If that doesn't work, he'll pretend you said something else and adress the thing he made up that you said

These are all traits that great therapists have...
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Lol @ edited subject heading :lol:
Appreciate where you're coming from, but I still stand by my stance!
I do feel Genesis is a well meaning guy- it's just easy to get caught up in conversational mischief on the computer and end up painting yourself into a corner.
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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28554835 - 11/24/23 10:08 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Considering the message I got. I think RGV checked it.
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the science on NREM dreams is weakly based upon self reporting, and a difficulty in assessing REM.

During REM either alpha or (usually) theta rhythms are detected (they are not ever detected in NREM - therefore REM is associated with the alpha and theta neural activation waves***), and events that can be correlated with experiencing are visible in many areas of the cortex - this indicates a scientific record of dream events. Self reporting does not work for NDE's or for NREM dreams, those investigative forays are deeply flawed. Self reporting can be made up on the instant of questioning, and nobody can determine the truth.

NREM dreams can be co-opted to support consciousness that is not brain based, and I think that direction in science is also flawed. The literature about brain and behaviour is full of good and flawed approaches, so a person interested in it has to keep their mind open and follow the most reliable approaches, like for example, the fact that memory is an associative function.

(***) It is actually possible to have alpha or theta activation without REM, but it is extremely rare, and to ascertain this we need accurate EEG's accompanying the NREM time series detection of the event.

I would avoid referencing this fringe aspect of possibilities as a key to your dream therapies.




I appreciate the comment. It wasn’t about ego that I said that I wanted him to check my review. He doesn’t accept any PM. This comment means he did read it.:rofl:
I also never claimed that non-rem sleep dreams play a major role in any interpretations. I even tell people that they are very benign. Thus don’t offer very much insight into anything. I like analyzing rem sleep dreams. Every now and then somebody will show up with something super boring about them hanging out in a room reading something. Or waiting in a car to go somewhere. That is clearly not a rem sleep dream. I left the evidence in the review.
I try not to take this site seriously.
I’m also not offering to build anyone houses out of my Therapy. (Potentially giving somebody advice that could get them hurt.) I even tell people at the top that you should seek professional help if you’re really having a problem.
But if I could back somebody away from the edge of a cliff, I want to try to do that. I hope nobody has a problem with me doing that in the future.
This isn’t supposed to be a place for me to get put onto the cross though. I just wanted people to express feelings about their shitty dad. I don’t know why that’s debatable. But I don’t deny that you have the ability to do that.
I’m not going to engage that’s all.


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28554839 - 11/24/23 10:18 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

you just did, again, dragging up the NREM thing and showing how little you understand about mental activity - any dream is mental activity - any response to anything mental is mental activity. NREM is no mental activity.

adding NREM to your dream analyses is pretentious. bringing it back to every thread we participate in is an outcry for attention. What kind of attention, I am not sure.


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    #28554856 - 11/24/23 10:35 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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This isn’t supposed to be a place for me to get put onto the cross though




Ok martyr boy.  You're acting like a douche bag and get called out then compare yourself to jesus fucking christ and claim we're crucifying you? 
That's pretty telling about who you are

You've been here about 15 min and should not make any claims about what this place is, or should or shouldn't be.  You're a newb here and this place is what it is despite anything you feel or say about it


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Re: Most disingenuous conversationalist contest - GC is WINNING!!! [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28554928 - 11/24/23 11:51 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Someone quote the above post so GC can read it.  I picked up my 1st ignore in years and I'm sure it's him


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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28554938 - 11/24/23 11:59 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

No I’m just trying to poke at you. I disagree.

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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28555020 - 11/24/23 01:21 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

What are NDEs?

And yeah, a lot of dream 'recollection' is made up to the best of our ability.

I didn't actually remember a lot of the dream and creatively pasted in what I kinda felt or wanted to be the filler to have a somewhat coherent story going on.

I wrote about my dream as soon as I woke up, but even within that few minutes the vividness of it faded. If I left it any longer then the recollection would be far more faded.

I'm not referencing rem or not rem or any of that, it'd be crazy to do so outside of laboratory conditions.

I'm just saying I wrote down my recollection of a dream as soon as I woke up, but acknowledge that me 'remembering' my dream isn't directly associative of the events in my dream, as my writing of the events have imaginary patchworks within.

There's nothing to prove and no one can interpret the dream, I can only reflect on the patchy notes I took upon waking.


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    #28555072 - 11/24/23 02:25 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

NDE's are the Near Death Experiences that people report after emerging from anaesthesia in surgeries after flat lining.

I maintain that when flat lined there was no experience, but during resuscitation and recovery from unconsciousness a brief REM dream creates the NDE dream skeleton of experience that gets fleshed out by the patient.

NREM or dreamless sleep is like flat lining in relation to mental contents.


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    #28555074 - 11/24/23 02:26 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

As far as my own reflections go, this is what I gathered from the notes on my dream last night.

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The Tale of the Seeker and the Traveler: Journey with the Twin Idols

In a world where the echoes of the past intertwined with the whispers of the future, there lived two individuals: a seeker, known for their deep curiosity, and a traveler, marked by an unquenchable thirst for understanding the mysteries of life. Both were visited by the same ageless dragon, a custodian of timeless wisdom, under a canopy of whispering stars. To each, the dragon presented two enigmatic idols: one smiling with joy yet shrouded in sorrow, and the other grimacing in anger but radiating subtle happiness.

Compelled by their respective desires to understand life's complexities, the seeker and the traveler each spent time with these idols. The seeker, holding the idol of joy, felt waves of sorrow reshape their perception of happiness, while the traveler, with the same idol, experienced profound sorrow that tinted their view of joy. Conversely, when each held the idol of anger, they found unexpected joy, either reshaping the seeker's understanding or revealing deep-seated happiness to the traveler. In these moments, both transcended the ordinary flow of time, delving into the intricate dance of emotions, seeing the world through a lens that transcended ordinary experiences.

As the celestial cycle marked the end of this timeless journey, both the seeker and the traveler approached the dragon to return the idols and share their insights. Each spoke of how they journeyed through the emotional spectrum with the idols and sought to understand the essence of their experiences.

The dragon, listening to both, with eyes that had seen the turning of ages, took back the idols. “In your journeys, you have each traversed the dual nature of the heart. What truths have you unearthed?”

Both the seeker and the traveler realised that within the idol of joy lay hidden depths of sorrow and within the idol of anger, a wellspring of happiness. They understood that emotions, much like these idols, were complex, each aspect revealing and concealing parts of the inner self.

However, both journeys were strewn with challenges. Shadowy figures, born from their own doubts and fears, emerged along their paths, whispering of false paths and illusions. But each, armed with the light of inner wisdom – a flame kindled from within for the traveler, a beacon of resolve for the seeker – learned to face these shadows, understanding their role in the journey of self-discovery.

This confrontation with the shadows taught them a profound lesson: in the odyssey of life, one cannot simply evade challenges and fears; they are essential to the journey, each shadow adding nuance and depth to the whole.

Reflecting upon their odysseys, both the seeker and the traveler understood the nature of control in life. Like using hands or horns to sift through sand, control could be delicate and precise or broad and sweeping. Both methods reveal different truths hidden within the sands of existence. Control, they comprehended, was not about mastering every grain but about understanding and adapting to the ever-changing patterns of life.

Thus, the tale of the seeker and the traveler with the twin idols spread, teaching that in the grand narrative of life, control is a dance with the ever-shifting sands of experiences, emotions, and the shadows they cast. It is a journey of embracing, understanding, and harmonising with the myriad aspects of existence, each moment a step in the intricate dance of life.




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Re: Worst dad contest (Therapy) [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28555078 - 11/24/23 02:28 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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NDE's are the Near Death Experiences that people report after emerging from anaesthesia in surgeries after flat lining.

I maintain that when flat lined there was no experience, but during resuscitation and recovery from consciousness a brief REM dream creates the NDE dream skeleton of experience that gets fleshed out by the patient.

NREM or dreamless sleep is like flat lining in relation to mental contents.




Oh yeah, my flat line experience was just that, a flat line, true nothing to be experienced, or not, because it wasn't anything.

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    #28555083 - 11/24/23 02:30 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

I have experienced the void on a breakthrough dose of 5-MeO-DMT. It ain't no joke.


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly]
    #28556489 - 11/25/23 08:14 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Yeah, not to poop on your guys parade about your flat line.

Your brain stays alive for 12 minutes after you die. It doesn’t need very much oxygen. So in those 12 minutes. While time dilation is happening. I’m pretty sure your brain does stuff. So enjoy thinking about that.


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    #28556525 - 11/25/23 08:51 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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This isn’t supposed to be a place for me to get put onto the cross though




Ok martyr boy.  You're acting like a douche bag and get called out then compare yourself to jesus fucking christ and claim we're crucifying you? 
That's pretty telling about who you are

You've been here about 15 min and should not make any claims about what this place is, or should or shouldn't be.  You're a newb here and this place is what it is despite anything you feel or say about it



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Someone quote the above post so GC can read it.  I picked up my 1st ignore in years and I'm sure it's him




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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28556528 - 11/25/23 08:56 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

It’s a legal term. Cross examination. Look it up.
Also. Quotes don’t show up when you ignore people.
It literally just doesn’t appear in other peoples comments if they try and quote somebody your ignoring.


I am the one ignoring you. I un ignored you, so I could check what this guy was laughing about.
The reason I’m ignoring you was actually because a month ago. You just jumped at the chance to make a bunch of assumptions about me. Because I mentioned that I wear a retainer.

It feels like you harbor some resentment towards me. So I’m just gonna leave you on ignore for a while.

This ain’t high school Mang, try and cool off.


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28556540 - 11/25/23 09:10 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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Yeah, not to poop on your guys parade about your flat line.

Your brain stays alive for 12 minutes after you die. It doesn’t need very much oxygen. So in those 12 minutes. While time dilation is happening. I’m pretty sure your brain does stuff. So enjoy thinking about that.




I was comatose, not dead.

If near death experience is referring to some kind of activity or recall, then imo my experience of a coma was of death, not a near death experience.

You are inappropriately generalising the results of a circumstantial study from 2022.

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While this study is the first of its kind to measure live brain activity during the process of dying in humans, similar changes in gamma oscillations have been previously observed in rats kept in controlled environments. This means it is possible that, during death, the brain organises and executes a biological response that could be conserved across species.

These measurements are, however, based on a single case and stem from the brain of a patient who had suffered injury, seizures and swelling, which complicate the interpretation of the data. Nonetheless, Zemmar plans to investigate more cases and sees these results as a source of hope.




In considering how these findings might be generalized to understand the typical patterns of brain activity during death, there are several caveats that must be considered. First, an important consideration is the patient’s post-traumatic brain that suffered hemorrhage, swelling and seizures.

Traumatic brain injury (TBI) and white matter damage can influence rhythmic brain activity (Sanchez et al., 2019). Post-injury, network activity is acutely decreased, which initiates upregulatory mechanisms to enhance cortical excitability (Avramescu and Timofeev, 2008).

When deprived of oxygen, cells go through a brief phase of enhanced excitability, and the brain generates the activity patterns that are dictated by its connectome (Fields et al., 2015). These changes in network excitability can increase synchronization after partial deafferentation or trauma-induced epilepsy (Avramescu and Timofeev, 2008; Timofeev et al., 2013).

It has been argued that the default emergent activity patterns of the cortical network are highly synchronous slow-waves, arising after the cortex is physically or functionally disconnected from external stimulation, e.g., during deep sleep, anesthesia or in in vitro slice preparations (Sanchez-Vives and McCormick, 2000; Steriade et al., 2001; Chauvette et al., 2011).

Second, anesthesia-induced loss of consciousness can alter neuronal oscillations, including alpha waves (Ching et al., 2010) and an increase phase synchronization of gamma oscillations (Murphy et al., 2011).

Third, dissociative drugs (Lee et al., 2017; Li et al., 2019) and psychosis are linked to a surge in gamma synchronization as observed in schizophrenia (Hirano et al., 2015), opening the possibility that dissociative events and drugs can cause an increase in gamma activity.

Fourth, the patient had been placed on significant doses of anticonvulsant medication, which could directly affect the neuronal network activity (Lanzone et al., 2020).

Fifth, asphyxia and hypercapnia can enhance cortical connectivity. Especially the pre-arrest surge in gamma synchronization observed in rodents (Li et al., 2015; Zhang et al., 2019) and in humans as seen in this study could be caused by hypercapnia and resulting acidosis, which may stimulate gap-junction activity, that is critical for gamma oscillations.

Sixth, no normal activity was recorded with the EEG that can serve as a true baseline for comparison.

Finally, while stereotyped neuronal activity patterns are conserved during daily behavioral tasks, it is not researched whether a similar evolutionary constraint demanding a proscribed process is present during the transition phase to death.

Despite these caveats, the overall similarity in oscillatory changes between the highly controlled experimental rodent study and the present work suggests that the brain may pass through a series of stereotyped activity patterns during death.

It may ultimately be difficult to assess this in a physiological environment, since gathering such data from “healthy-subjects” is impossible by definition.

We do not anticipate death in healthy subjects and therefore could not obtain uninterrupted recordings in the near-death phase in anything other than from circumstances involving pathological conditions in acute care hospital settings.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnagi.2022.813531/full?utm_source=fweb&utm_medium=nblog&utm_campaign=ba-sci-fnagi-what-happens-in-the-brain-when-we-die




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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly]
    #28556541 - 11/25/23 09:11 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

If you were in a coma. It depends on the type of coma. But typically there is some brain activity happening. Usually people are in one prolonged dream.


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    #28556544 - 11/25/23 09:17 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

It's frankly just my vague opinion, but what appears to me like your attempt at clairvoyance has led me to read about Anosognosia.


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly]
    #28556549 - 11/25/23 09:20 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

What?
Oh, are you referencing how you don’t believe any Therapy is anything aside from Tom foolery that belongs in the garbage?
When did I say anything about clairvoyance?
You’re a kooky character sudly.


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    #28556552 - 11/25/23 09:23 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

I had it after waking up, and it took me three days and being professionally told I was experiencing hyperactive mental delirium due to my incident to overcome it and regain atleast a semblence of my grasp on sensibility. To recognise what I was going through.

It appears to me like you are attempting to be clairvoyant.


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    #28556554 - 11/25/23 09:24 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

So you received head trauma to be put into your coma, right? Were you hit by a car too?


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    #28556555 - 11/25/23 09:25 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

No, it was medically related. Not blunt force trauma.


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    #28556560 - 11/25/23 09:33 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Well, I’m glad you’re doing better.


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    #28556562 - 11/25/23 09:38 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

I hope you recover some time too.


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    #28556563 - 11/25/23 09:39 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

It’s been getting better. But it’s like I’m hitting a plateau. I’m not sure I’ll ever get back to 100%.
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    #28556580 - 11/25/23 10:18 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

I'm g. Took a week.


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    #28556698 - 11/26/23 04:00 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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Yeah, not to poop on your guys parade about your flat line.

Your brain stays alive for 12 minutes after you die. It doesn’t need very much oxygen. So in those 12 minutes. While time dilation is happening. I’m pretty sure your brain does stuff. So enjoy thinking about that.




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    #28556729 - 11/26/23 05:32 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

If your brain stays alive 12 minutes after you die then you haven’t actually died yet have you? Let that sink in for a bit GC


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    #28561437 - 11/29/23 09:51 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

If your heart has ceased beating. You’ve died medically speaking. But your brain hasn’t. I’m glad we agree.
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    #28561599 - 11/30/23 02:17 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

My heart ceases beating in between every beat. Maybe I’ve already died  millions of times lol


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    #28561607 - 11/30/23 02:30 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Do I die between every breathe? Is a blink the recreation of the universe? When I sleep am I not in my bed? When the star dot the sky is the Sun gone? If I clap are my ears a part of what's making the sound? Do I breathe the breath of dinosaurs? Are rain drops only dust particles? Am I a cancer survivor everytime my immune system removes such cells?

If a tree falls and nobody hears it, did it make a sound?!

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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28561615 - 11/30/23 02:37 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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sudly said:
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Gray Hound said:
The world is am eminent attack on me personally every second. I have to breath air every second of the day, just to stay alive.
And if I decide to stop breathing air. I am fucking dead.




Is this what you thought was someone talking about killing themselves?

Sounds to me like venting frustrations of having to deal with the responsibilities of being human.



By the way. That guy has posted a lot of very distressing things on a lot of different threads. Most of them about suicide or Therapy . It was not a very large extrapolation to make. That that guy is having a really hard time. I still regret not getting to talk to him.

Do you ever go to the physical mental wellness section? Because I do.
He really needed help.
You’re so unobservant sudsy.:picard:


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28561619 - 11/30/23 02:42 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

If only you could have bestowed upon him the knowledge of the omnissiah :rolleyes:

Maybe there's such thing as trying to extrapolate too far. Maybe he can speak for himself, if he chooses to.


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28561665 - 11/30/23 04:16 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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Do I die between every breathe? Is a blink the recreation of the universe? When I sleep am I not in my bed? When the star dot the sky is the Sun gone? If I clap are my ears a part of what's making the sound? Do I breathe the breath of dinosaurs? Are rain drops only dust particles? Am I a cancer survivor everytime my immune system removes such cells?

If a tree falls and nobody hears it, did it make a sound?!

I wouldn't ask these in real life since I know the answers.




Do you realise what I said was a joke? I hope you do, but it seems like the comment I’ve quoted here is intended to mock someone that actually believes they die between every heart beat haha


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: Bardy]
    #28561667 - 11/30/23 04:18 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Oh no, I know you’re joking.
You’re awesome. :highfive:
Sudley is just in a brain spiral right now.


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28561669 - 11/30/23 04:22 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

I had no doubt you got it GC, just wondering about Sudly 😊


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    #28561687 - 11/30/23 05:01 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

glad i missed this dumnification while dead asleep


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28562090 - 11/30/23 12:25 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Quote:

GenesisCorrupted said:
Quote:

sudly said:
Quote:

Gray Hound said:
The world is am eminent attack on me personally every second. I have to breath air every second of the day, just to stay alive.
And if I decide to stop breathing air. I am fucking dead.




Is this what you thought was someone talking about killing themselves?

Sounds to me like venting frustrations of having to deal with the responsibilities of being human.



By the way. That guy has posted a lot of very distressing things on a lot of different threads. Most of them about suicide or Therapy . It was not a very large extrapolation to make. That that guy is having a really hard time. I still regret not getting to talk to him.

Do you ever go to the physical mental wellness section? Because I do.
He really needed help.
You’re so unobservant sudsy.:picard:




Sounded like his focus was in dealing with the frustrations of an unsopportive system, maybe suicide didn't need to be the focus.


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: redgreenvines] * 2
    #28562152 - 11/30/23 01:15 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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glad i missed this dumnification while dead asleep




It hasn’t been fun


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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: Bardy]
    #28564577 - 12/01/23 11:22 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

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Bardy said:
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sudly said:
Do I die between every breathe? Is a blink the recreation of the universe? When I sleep am I not in my bed? When the star dot the sky is the Sun gone? If I clap are my ears a part of what's making the sound? Do I breathe the breath of dinosaurs? Are rain drops only dust particles? Am I a cancer survivor everytime my immune system removes such cells?

If a tree falls and nobody hears it, did it make a sound?!

I wouldn't ask these in real life since I know the answers.




Do you realise what I said was a joke? I hope you do, but it seems like the comment I’ve quoted here is intended to mock someone that actually believes they die between every heart beat haha






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