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GenesisCorrupted said: Yeah, not to poop on your guys parade about your flat line.
Your brain stays alive for 12 minutes after you die. It doesn’t need very much oxygen. So in those 12 minutes. While time dilation is happening. I’m pretty sure your brain does stuff. So enjoy thinking about that.
I was comatose, not dead.
If near death experience is referring to some kind of activity or recall, then imo my experience of a coma was of death, not a near death experience.
You are inappropriately generalising the results of a circumstantial study from 2022.
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While this study is the first of its kind to measure live brain activity during the process of dying in humans, similar changes in gamma oscillations have been previously observed in rats kept in controlled environments. This means it is possible that, during death, the brain organises and executes a biological response that could be conserved across species.
These measurements are, however, based on a single case and stem from the brain of a patient who had suffered injury, seizures and swelling, which complicate the interpretation of the data. Nonetheless, Zemmar plans to investigate more cases and sees these results as a source of hope.
In considering how these findings might be generalized to understand the typical patterns of brain activity during death, there are several caveats that must be considered. First, an important consideration is the patient’s post-traumatic brain that suffered hemorrhage, swelling and seizures.
Traumatic brain injury (TBI) and white matter damage can influence rhythmic brain activity (Sanchez et al., 2019). Post-injury, network activity is acutely decreased, which initiates upregulatory mechanisms to enhance cortical excitability (Avramescu and Timofeev, 2008).
When deprived of oxygen, cells go through a brief phase of enhanced excitability, and the brain generates the activity patterns that are dictated by its connectome (Fields et al., 2015). These changes in network excitability can increase synchronization after partial deafferentation or trauma-induced epilepsy (Avramescu and Timofeev, 2008; Timofeev et al., 2013).
It has been argued that the default emergent activity patterns of the cortical network are highly synchronous slow-waves, arising after the cortex is physically or functionally disconnected from external stimulation, e.g., during deep sleep, anesthesia or in in vitro slice preparations (Sanchez-Vives and McCormick, 2000; Steriade et al., 2001; Chauvette et al., 2011).
Second, anesthesia-induced loss of consciousness can alter neuronal oscillations, including alpha waves (Ching et al., 2010) and an increase phase synchronization of gamma oscillations (Murphy et al., 2011).
Third, dissociative drugs (Lee et al., 2017; Li et al., 2019) and psychosis are linked to a surge in gamma synchronization as observed in schizophrenia (Hirano et al., 2015), opening the possibility that dissociative events and drugs can cause an increase in gamma activity.
Fourth, the patient had been placed on significant doses of anticonvulsant medication, which could directly affect the neuronal network activity (Lanzone et al., 2020).
Fifth, asphyxia and hypercapnia can enhance cortical connectivity. Especially the pre-arrest surge in gamma synchronization observed in rodents (Li et al., 2015; Zhang et al., 2019) and in humans as seen in this study could be caused by hypercapnia and resulting acidosis, which may stimulate gap-junction activity, that is critical for gamma oscillations.
Sixth, no normal activity was recorded with the EEG that can serve as a true baseline for comparison.
Finally, while stereotyped neuronal activity patterns are conserved during daily behavioral tasks, it is not researched whether a similar evolutionary constraint demanding a proscribed process is present during the transition phase to death.
Despite these caveats, the overall similarity in oscillatory changes between the highly controlled experimental rodent study and the present work suggests that the brain may pass through a series of stereotyped activity patterns during death.
It may ultimately be difficult to assess this in a physiological environment, since gathering such data from “healthy-subjects” is impossible by definition.
We do not anticipate death in healthy subjects and therefore could not obtain uninterrupted recordings in the near-death phase in anything other than from circumstances involving pathological conditions in acute care hospital settings.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnagi.2022.813531/full?utm_source=fweb&utm_medium=nblog&utm_campaign=ba-sci-fnagi-what-happens-in-the-brain-when-we-die
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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly]
#28556541 - 11/25/23 09:11 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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If you were in a coma. It depends on the type of coma. But typically there is some brain activity happening. Usually people are in one prolonged dream.
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sudly
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It's frankly just my vague opinion, but what appears to me like your attempt at clairvoyance has led me to read about Anosognosia.
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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly]
#28556549 - 11/25/23 09:20 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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What? Oh, are you referencing how you don’t believe any Therapy is anything aside from Tom foolery that belongs in the garbage? When did I say anything about clairvoyance? You’re a kooky character sudly.
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I had it after waking up, and it took me three days and being professionally told I was experiencing hyperactive mental delirium due to my incident to overcome it and regain atleast a semblence of my grasp on sensibility. To recognise what I was going through.
It appears to me like you are attempting to be clairvoyant.
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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly]
#28556554 - 11/25/23 09:24 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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So you received head trauma to be put into your coma, right? Were you hit by a car too?
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No, it was medically related. Not blunt force trauma.
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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly]
#28556560 - 11/25/23 09:33 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Well, I’m glad you’re doing better.
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I hope you recover some time too.
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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly]
#28556563 - 11/25/23 09:39 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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It’s been getting better. But it’s like I’m hitting a plateau. I’m not sure I’ll ever get back to 100%. How about you?
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I'm g. Took a week.
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GenesisCorrupted said: Yeah, not to poop on your guys parade about your flat line.
Your brain stays alive for 12 minutes after you die. It doesn’t need very much oxygen. So in those 12 minutes. While time dilation is happening. I’m pretty sure your brain does stuff. So enjoy thinking about that.
this is when it is NOT YET DECOMPOSING, Mr.Funnyclause
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If your brain stays alive 12 minutes after you die then you haven’t actually died yet have you? Let that sink in for a bit GC
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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: Bardy]
#28561437 - 11/29/23 09:51 PM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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If your heart has ceased beating. You’ve died medically speaking. But your brain hasn’t. I’m glad we agree.
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My heart ceases beating in between every beat. Maybe I’ve already died millions of times lol
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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: Bardy]
#28561607 - 11/30/23 02:30 AM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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Do I die between every breathe? Is a blink the recreation of the universe? When I sleep am I not in my bed? When the star dot the sky is the Sun gone? If I clap are my ears a part of what's making the sound? Do I breathe the breath of dinosaurs? Are rain drops only dust particles? Am I a cancer survivor everytime my immune system removes such cells?
If a tree falls and nobody hears it, did it make a sound?!
I wouldn't ask these in real life since I know the answers.
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Gray Hound said: The world is am eminent attack on me personally every second. I have to breath air every second of the day, just to stay alive. And if I decide to stop breathing air. I am fucking dead.
Is this what you thought was someone talking about killing themselves?
Sounds to me like venting frustrations of having to deal with the responsibilities of being human.
By the way. That guy has posted a lot of very distressing things on a lot of different threads. Most of them about suicide or Therapy . It was not a very large extrapolation to make. That that guy is having a really hard time. I still regret not getting to talk to him.
Do you ever go to the physical mental wellness section? Because I do. He really needed help. You’re so unobservant sudsy.
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If only you could have bestowed upon him the knowledge of the omnissiah 
Maybe there's such thing as trying to extrapolate too far. Maybe he can speak for himself, if he chooses to.
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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: sudly] 1
#28561665 - 11/30/23 04:16 AM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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sudly said: Do I die between every breathe? Is a blink the recreation of the universe? When I sleep am I not in my bed? When the star dot the sky is the Sun gone? If I clap are my ears a part of what's making the sound? Do I breathe the breath of dinosaurs? Are rain drops only dust particles? Am I a cancer survivor everytime my immune system removes such cells?
If a tree falls and nobody hears it, did it make a sound?!
I wouldn't ask these in real life since I know the answers.
Do you realise what I said was a joke? I hope you do, but it seems like the comment I’ve quoted here is intended to mock someone that actually believes they die between every heart beat haha
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Re: Bad Father’s (Therapy) [Re: Bardy]
#28561667 - 11/30/23 04:18 AM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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Oh no, I know you’re joking. You’re awesome.  Sudley is just in a brain spiral right now.
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