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CreonAntigone
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Quitting cannabis again - slower this time 1
#28524420 - 10/31/23 09:40 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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I had posted previously about my efforts to quit cannabis. Unfortunately, those efforts have been unsuccessful. Each time I tried to quit, I'd get horrible anxiety and nausea the days of quitting, which was alleviated by having more cannabis when I couldn't stand the feeling anymore. I think that by using it so much, it has made it quite hard for me to do things without it. I think cannabis does have a dependence and withdrawal, if abused.
I tried stopping weed yesterday - and I could not sleep, for over an hour after I went to bed. If I quit cold turkey, completely, I'll be nauseous and without nearly as much sleep. And those then make it hard to continue the quitting.
So I think I will try this instead: to quit slowly, by increasingly spending more and more time not high, until I can eliminate my dependence. I'm going to try to go about this slower.
I have in the past had a tendency to always take too much. I am going to make much more effort to reduce my harm in the use of it - which this post is one way of working towards. But, essentially, in the past I'd take cannabis past the point of comfort, where it will make me very anxious. I want to stop doing that - I want to, for now, not go on any intense doses, by being aware of the amounts I'm using.
I found that despite my need to use it every day, I still somehow don't have that much of a tolerance to it, and the doses that impact me are this: just 1 puff makes me quite high. 2-5 puffs creates a pretty intense high, that makes it harder to do normal things. So I think when I do get high, I will start with the dose of 1/4th puff of weed - holding it in for a fourth of the time. I think this dose will be active in me (I know it wouldn't be active in most people.
Also, I've been trying low-THC high-CBD blends of edibles and vapes - and I've found that they don't produce really much anxiety at all, since they are primarily non-euphoric. So, if I feel the need to have cannabis, I'll more often use these low-THC blends - which will make me more able to do things, and to not be too high.
I am simply trying to reduce my harm. I'm trying to be more aware, which if it doesn't help me quit, at least will help me have less bad experiences.
Yesterday, as I let the cannabis leave my system and returned to normalcy, I experienced the most pleasant feelings: I began to notice the little pleasures of the day experienced by the people at the parks I walked through. The training and dedication of the swimmers, the equanimity of those walking with their kids. I was not yet entirely sober, but yet the storm was over; everything awash with a glow. And I saw a vision, that is to say an imagined future, of how my life could be without dependence on cannabis: to once again feel pleasure over simple things, to enjoy a walk in the park the way others could.
I realized that the after-glow was the most pleasant time of cannabis use - at least to me, rather than the storm of intense intoxication, it is the slight glow over things that stands as the best part, the blanketing of normal sensations, the feeling of them in a more intense and aware way. By redosing at each chance, I actually never had the cannabis leave my system so that I could experience the glow - I was, ironically, by using too much cannabis, depriving myself of the most profound moment in it, the return to reality again, the re-accommodation with one's self. I realized that by getting higher and higher, I was more seeking an other world, rather than to more intensely be in this one. If I am to use cannabis more, I should dose more for glows than for highs - for the residual comfort, rather than the discomfort of an experience that is too intense. In the past, I had seen potential in cannabis, but it had kept causing me trouble because I showed trouble restraining myself - and I had a deep misunderstanding of my use and myself. Now at least I think I understand it a little better. When I get very high I see great euphoria combined with great discomfort and a hard time acting. Instead of euphoria, I should dose for equanimity - if I am to use this drug at all, I will try as best I can to be in the afterglow.
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Re: Quitting cannabis again - slower this time [Re: CreonAntigone]
#28525611 - 11/01/23 03:19 PM (2 months, 25 days ago) |
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Best of luck quitting, you got this!
The slow weening off is a great method for most substances. And to look at the bright side of quitting weed, it's not heroin!
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Re: Quitting cannabis again - slower this time [Re: CreonAntigone]
#28526271 - 11/02/23 08:30 AM (2 months, 25 days ago) |
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Relate a lot to how you describe your weed use here (apart from tolerance), and am also taking a break..... Again...
 After a little Tbreak I go back to it and can't believe how high I get on how little, but I forget and get to vaping earlier and earlier in the day, it's so easy to slip into that wake 'n bake whirpool.
"The dose makes the poison" sums up my feeling, especially when tolerance DOES come into play cos hitting more, stronger strains, concentrates etc the negative effects stack up wayyyy more than the positive ones, IME. Fucking LOVE the plant and will forever but when I find myself abusing rather than enjoying, it's quite dissapointing.
Best of luck dude, be sure to update here and there.
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Re: Quitting cannabis again - slower this time [Re: CreonAntigone]
#28526351 - 11/02/23 09:28 AM (2 months, 25 days ago) |
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Withdrawal from weed sucks. Exercise helps. Knowing it is temporary helps some. I think you have to find what works for you.
Edited by Anonymous (11/02/23 09:29 AM)
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Re: Quitting cannabis again - slower this time [Re: Anonymous #1]
#28540175 - 11/12/23 12:02 PM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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I am trying to do the same. Well, truthfully I am just trying to cure my c-PTSD with psychedelics and hopefully I won't have to endlessly consume cannabis
I would like to get down to a usage level, that 1 or 2 edibles (10mg) will floor me. At least for cannabis tolerance.
I've probably smoked...ten pounds of flower, and at least three pounds of oil if you add it all up lol. I'm sure I have bought at least 1,000 carts. That's many tens of thousands of dollars, just gone...I wish I had sourced psychs sooner. I would have had more money for stuff I really need.
I have been high...nonstop for like 2 years. A lot of joints, then vaping oil, then rso capsules and vaping, to slowly vaping less and less. It is actually working. I wait longer in-between sessions and I consume less each session, and I get more high...which is nice, because my c-PTSD goes on the backburner
So due to my c-PTSD,,I'm not taking a tolerance break persay, but I am taking the strongest endogenous antioxidants, vitamins, liquids, exercise, sleep, etc., to help mitigate my tolerance.
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Re: Quitting cannabis again - slower this time [Re: CreonAntigone]
#28549735 - 11/20/23 12:01 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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For many people, including myself, I do not enjoy getting a little bit high. Being a little bit high makes me very uncomfortable.
It takes me about 7 days of abstinence to begin to notice dramatic effects, including getting incredible sleep. Even just 1 vape hit at night really impacts the quality of my sleep. It's really nice to wake up crisp and refreshed. I've gotten somewhat bored with herb over the last few years.
howz it goin?
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Re: Quitting cannabis again - slower this time [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 3
#28570191 - 12/05/23 04:34 PM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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I agree with R.J above.
The quality of my sleep is what keeps me going without weed. It's hard to describe. Even the vivid nightmares of terror are actually enjoyable. It's like free psychadelics.
When I smoke I have no dreams. Leads me to believe that I am skipping the state of sleep that produces dreams. That can't be healthy. It totally fried my short term memory.
Easiest way to do it is to work a full time job then right as u get home sleep. 1 melatonin and sleep. Just stay in the bed.
Look up the technique they use in the military. Don't have any weed or paraphernalia in the house at all. Do not use alcohol to induce sleep or u will have a new problem in a few months.
Ride out the worst 3 or 4 days then it gets easier.
Then you fail and relapse lol. You buy another eighth or a vape cartridge. Then u smoke for a couple months....
Then u start over and do it again.
And eventually u realize just how long it takes to actually quit. And u get tired of failing. Tired of making all these empty promises to yourself and others.
Just so tired. It's your own body, but ur actually a slave.
And then one day u quit for good. And everytime u drive past the cannabis shop or the drug dealers corner ur body twitches but u ask yourself "do I really have 7 or 8 months to try and quit this shit again?"
And ull be like nahh, I'm going home.
-------------------- Don't listen to any of my advice cuz I ended up with extreme HBP and nearly died. So I'm a literally an idiot. Don't let me guide u lol. I'm just trying to heal myself.. then I can be better for my family
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Re: Quitting cannabis again - slower this time [Re: Psil-y-nat-y] 2
#28570953 - 12/06/23 05:15 AM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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I read this recently - about how we create our ongoing urges . . .
Cravings are like stray cats. If you feed them they keep coming back.
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Re: Quitting cannabis again - slower this time [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 2
#28570979 - 12/06/23 06:02 AM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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Re: Quitting cannabis again - slower this time [Re: CapSlinger]
#28583097 - 12/14/23 07:43 PM (1 month, 13 days ago) |
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This year I smoked 12 times. That's once a month on average but realistically I smoked like 2 or 3 days here and there
Next year I won't smoke at all
10 years ago I smoked morning to night nonstop. Past three years I slowed down a lot. And this year drastically stopped.
I feel great. It's super cliche but effective.... what worked for me is THE GYM. Go lift heavy weights and run/bike everyday! Mild exercise every single day no matter what (walking, pushups. SOMETHING) and 3 or 4 days a week of intense exercise.
Move your body
AAANNNNNNDDDD stimulate your mind. Buy a book, get a library card, solve a sudoku puzzle.
Make a spiritual connection with something. God, yourself, a turtle I don't care pick something!
Mind. Body. Spirit.
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