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InvisibleSwami
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Inherently Evil Music
    #2852237 - 07/02/04 05:19 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

My main hobby is sound design and synthesis. I was checking out a new virtual instrument and was surprised to see this disclaimer on this web page:
Please don't use this program to make music that is against God and Jesus Christ (eg. HeavyMetal, NewAge,..etc..). Realize that the only way to the Salvation is Jesus Christ. Please don't lose this chance and don't make others to lose it!


WTF?! If I do lovely New Age swirling, pulsing ambient pads, then I am going to hell? Christ hates filter sweeps, soulful strings and haunting flutes?

Please pray for my immortal soul, cuz here goes another one... *Swami warms up synth and recorder and sparks a bowl*

Edited by Swami (07/02/04 05:52 PM)

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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Swami]
    #2852244 - 07/02/04 05:22 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

when i think of evil music, I think of fascist metal bands like Slayer and Stormtroopers of Death.

but I like those bands

I guess evil music is OK in small doses. as long as its not your only perspective. the key is balance, I suppose

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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2852258 - 07/02/04 05:35 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

The only possible aspect of music that can possibly be evil is the words. I do not agree with lyrics (but would not censor) advocating violence or demeaming specific groups. Distortion, grunge, saturation and screeching feedback may not be everyone's ear candy, but is hardly satanic.

Note: the author of the website in question needs some serious deprogramming.


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InvisibleShroomismM
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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Swami]
    #2852312 - 07/02/04 06:06 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

there's only a handful of truly evil bands, the likes of slayer and deicide.
which.. coincidentally.. thoroughly enjoy ripping christians apart in their lyrics..among other things. If christianity didn't exist.. I don't know what they would sing about. Thank god for the christians inspiring death metal with their dogmatic slinging. But aside from a few exceptions, generalizing 'heavy metal' or 'new age' 'etc' as against jesus or christ is recockulous.

I suggest we put the subject in a darkened room on mushrooms with Nevermore playing in loop.. that oughta do it.

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InvisibleZero7a1
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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Swami]
    #2852324 - 07/02/04 06:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

did you use the program? how was it?


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Zero7a1]
    #2852356 - 07/02/04 06:29 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

You think I would go against the developer's wishes and play pleasant background music?  :eek: Isn't that being selfish and unethical?


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InvisibleZero7a1
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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Swami]
    #2852386 - 07/02/04 06:45 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Hes just a jesus freak, he doesnt realize that you cant really utilize the greatest potential of the program unless you are aligned with good!

So... is the program very well designed? Have you used the frooty loops before?


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Zero7a1]
    #2852396 - 07/02/04 06:51 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Haven't checked it out yet. Can't use it as a plug-in.

Played with Fruity Loops and settled on Orion Platinum.

I wonder what instrument Jesus played?


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InvisibleHuehuecoyotl
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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Swami]
    #2852465 - 07/02/04 07:38 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

That is the biggest load of nonsense I have heard of since I saw the christian linux distro...Jesix.

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InvisibleZero7a1
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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Swami]
    #2852468 - 07/02/04 07:41 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I guess he doesnt care too much about "creative spirit".

Hes from Romania... no wonder  :smirk: .

Jesus probably played the drumbs... or maybe he didnt play music at all.


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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Zero7a1]
    #2852472 - 07/02/04 07:44 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I'm almost certain that Jesus played the tuba.

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Invisiblemr crisper
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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Oddish]
    #2852581 - 07/02/04 08:51 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

or maybe a rusty trombone?

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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: mr crisper]
    #2852677 - 07/02/04 09:57 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

mr crisper said:
or maybe a rusty trombone?




Either way - Jesus the Christ, the critical foundation of the local high school marching band's brass section. No one could stir up those fans at the football games like Jesus could.

:grin:

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Invisiblezorbman
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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Oddish]
    #2852724 - 07/02/04 10:13 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

I'm almost certain that Jesus played the tuba.





That would definately explain how he was able to lug that heavy cross around.

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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Swami]
    #2852739 - 07/02/04 10:27 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

WTF?! If I do lovely New Age swirling, pulsing ambient pads, then I am going to hell? Christ hates filter sweeps, soulful strings and haunting flutes?

Why do you continue to humor religious fundamentalists? You're obviously more intelligent than that - and them.  :heart:


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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Swami]
    #2852780 - 07/02/04 10:57 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Many Christians do seem to prescribe rigid boundaries in all areas of life, even where those boundaries don't apply- like music. It would be interesting to see the demographic breakdown for what percentage of Christians follow various types of music. I'm betting that free form jazz ain't too popular with the Holy Rollers.

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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: zorbman]
    #2852811 - 07/02/04 11:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

What I'm focused on is how the jesus freak is categorizing two WHOLE genre's of music as evil.

I know some music artists ARE evil, and have horrible intentions. How do I know? Because there are so many , and music is a VERY powerful tool to control and manipulate.

However, we are talking about individual artists, not genres of music?

Especially New age!?

Yea....like there is anything evil about a whole soundtrack of thunderstorm sounds

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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2853119 - 07/03/04 02:07 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

My dad threw out all my CD's when I was a teenager because they were "new age."

Then I bought another one and made him sit down and listen to the music without telling him it was new age, and he loved it. He was quite shocked when I informed him that yes, it was indeed new age music. :p

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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Swami]
    #2853190 - 07/03/04 02:40 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Evil bands don't exist, nor does evil music. That's just a phrase to make it sound much scarier, but nothing can be truely evil or good

However, I would say people like Burzum, Mayhem and Emperor and more "evil" than Slayer and Deicide, who, to my knowledge, hasn't even burned down their first church or killed their first person (n00bs.) The former has better music too


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Re: Inherently Evil Music [Re: Ravus]
    #2853393 - 07/03/04 05:30 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Preachers will stick their foot in everywhere to try and make us sinners repent. Christianity is like a virus, it infects someone and then they try to spread it around.


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