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Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit * 2
    #28509763 - 10/18/23 05:32 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit, 350mg tablet. Wish me luck!


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28509880 - 10/18/23 07:28 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)





Praying for you.

if you do the 350mg tab right, your K-hole virginity may be lost today.

it is like dying and being reborn again.

A lot of christians call themselves "born again"

the Hole experience lies between death and rebirth in the womb of your grave, lying in your bed or sitting in your chair in darkness or candlelight, eyes closed on reverent dark silenece.

Holing is symbolic death and rebirth into the Dream. 


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: Asante]
    #28509958 - 10/18/23 08:43 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Damn, wish I could find myself some Ketamine..

But good luck on your dose!

Make sure to tell us how it went..


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: BrendanFlock] * 3
    #28509961 - 10/18/23 08:47 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Holy cow, definitely saw the "ineffable". I'll try to do my best to communicate when I fully recover. I'm coming down now. 2 hours of ecstasy. Still "seeing" it, but that was impossibly profound. Definitely the most intense mystical experience to date.

The gist, is that we're all interconnected and part of a larger story... "Reality is alive". Everything you experience on psychedelics is "real" because "you" are. You really just need to dose to "see".

Thanks for the kinds words, all. Make no doubt about it, they will help me integrate the experience and get through it. Much love.

**

It's just a strange thing to "exist". Wow.


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28510065 - 10/18/23 11:14 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Trip report

Preface: Wow, okay, still somewhat leveling down from this. Not sure whether to just let it simmer in my mind, relax, or write it down--but, I've decided I want to write it down and share, now that I'm mostly "landed".

Okay, to begin: some context, I've been absolutely driven nuts by the fact that shrooms are illegal when they are, undoubtedly, one of the most healing fruits of our world. It's beyond ridiculous that I need to fly into places where they're decriminalized to get medicine that is very healing to me. So, with that, I was so peeved by the process, that I got a prescription for ketamine to treat my OCD (which is legal). My experience with cannabis and shrooms have been tremendously healing towards this anxiety--it's a damn shame we've made it so hard for people to get this medicine.

Anyhow, so I got a prescription for 350 mg tablets of ketamine. Never took it before.

I was well prepared, because I trip pretty hard on cannabis and shrooms... See reports here:

Cannabis trip - 15mg THC
Shroom trip - 4 g shrooms

Last cannabis trip, I was "gone" for 12 hours, and last shroom trip I was also "gone" for 12 hours, so I've definitely experienced the sense of the world "falling apart and then coming back together again", so to speak. Anyhow, I ramble, here's the report:

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Trip Report

I lie down in bed getting ready to listen to my trance music and putting on my Mindfold. The 350 mg lozenge sits under my tongue and slowly dissolves. Within 5 minutes, I have this saliva mold in my mouth of ketamine... it's impossible to keep under the tongue, so I swish it around.

Then, it comes on. I feel a sense of calmness and serenity, a sense of having glimpsed something more than our tangible world makes apparent. I now know it's "hitting". Pretty soon, the saliva, just disintegrates in my mouth, and my mouth is dry as I "fall into myself" in ecstasy.

All the sudden, the universe "makes sense". Everything just "makes sense". I start speaking (without speaking), start hearing (without hearing). And I start moving in a coordinated fashion that seems to precede my conscious thought... it does feel as though there's a loss of free will, that the universe is moving along in motions, and I dissolve into the experience.

Everything starts repeating. It's like time takes on a repetitive pattern as things that have already happened in my mind cascade and multiply themselves. Suddenly, the universe / Reality / the Divine / God comes "alive".

I recognize that me tripping is just the universe going through it's pattern of self-discovery. Me seeking enlightenment on ketamine is the universe seeking enrichment of it's self. And, it's pretty cool, because what you are discovering with changing your consciousness is... in fact... the universe having another experience of itself! In other words, I discover that I'm experiencing "real" magic. No such thing as "fake" magic; once experienced, the experience is real... and this is the universe communicating to itself.

I experience an ineffable sensation as though I've seen this all before. It feels like I keep learning this message and keep forgetting, but this pushed me through the threshold.

I get the feeling of how hard I am trying to communicate that the "ineffable" exists, that it's, in the end, an impossible task. All I can do is say: "I've seen it", "I've been 'there'", and,"if you know, 'you know'". Make of that what you will--but, in my mind, I've glimpsed the "hidden world".

I marvel in this ineffable mystery. That nature of something that is indescribable.


During the experience, I kept speaking (without speaking) symbolic meaning:

"Feeling's good"...
"Love is everywhere"...
"We're all interconnected"...
"All is one"...
"I love Reality"...
"The Universe is AWESOME"...
"I just love existence"...
"Wow, wow, wow, wow"

"Feeling's good". (Like how strange it is that the universe can even have something called "feelings" through us, right?)

I apologize if some of this seems platitudinal and cheesy, because that would be an incorrect description of the experience. It was more an understanding how incredible it is to exist and that Reality can have incredible experiences through us and learn through those experiences. That what I was experiencing on ketamine was just the universe's way of coming to understand itself, naturally, and that I've been playing this game with our universal Self through all points of experience throughout History.

Like, in History, there's all been people... and they have the same exact revelation that I'm having. Doesn't matter if it was during Ancient Egypt, now, or the distant future of hovercrafts. That person will be having the same revelation of waking up to the ecstasy of existence... it continues to be "ineffable", continues to be indescribable, which means that it truly is "another form of experiencing Reality". And seeking enlightenment is something we all get around to when the time is right. That this is a learning, and we all learn it, like it's a rite of passage... from tomb to womb, we learn certain life messages, and this "ineffable" "secret" is one of them.

We only live in one version of the universe, but there are many slices of this game. These slices cascade beyond direction and time into other planes we don't quite understand "here".

I happened to enter one of these slices, and, since it isn't congruent with our way of processing Reality, I'm at a loss of words to describe it, but it's almost as if that world, metaphorically, casts a shadow here. "Seeing" the shadow, we don't know what to make out of it; until, we transcend and "it all comes together" and "makes sense".

In this slice that extends beyond our world, "all is seen" and "all is known". We come to "know" it, but not through a mechanism of our five senses -- sight, sound, smells, touch, tastes -- rather, we "know" it through something of a more intangible force, known as our mind, which grants the universe a variety of senses beyond what humans can know.

Journeying to that ineffable plane, we see that the world we just left was a dream and just one point of experience from an infinite see of potential experiences. That it was a story patterned into the story of Reality, which carries forward and emanates all of our lives together as a living, breathing Universe.

**

During the trip, I kept feeling like I "returned", but, it kept going on. Intense effects lasted from 8.30pm - 11.30pm, so three hours. Still somewhat feeling the effects at 1:13am, but slowly returning back and forgetting information of what I learned "there". Honestly, I'm not sure I want a more "intense" experience than this.

But, holy cow, yeah... Reality is profound!


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28510076 - 10/18/23 11:37 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

My partner recorded some of what I said in trance, and one amazing thing she noted that I forgot.

I told her: "able to read music". Like, I was understanding sentences the universe was transcribing, and music was "coming alive", things that previously I couldn't understand, I could now "hear" and "read". Like, I was feeling how miraculous it was for the universe to be conscious and having feelings and that it communicated an inexpressible pattern that was music to me, something previously indecipherable now made known.

It also felt silly how we go through life not knowing why we exist, and we just play these "roles". Until we "wake up" and "see something higher.

Yeah, I threw up several times, the revelations were so intense. But, damn, good trip.


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28510198 - 10/19/23 04:03 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Sick, great to hear you having these positive, insightful experiences!
Cheers for the share as always solar.

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I happened to enter one of these slices, and, since it isn't congruent with our way of processing Reality, I'm at a loss of words to describe it, but it's almost as if that world, metaphorically, casts a shadow here. "Seeing" the shadow, we don't know what to make out of it; until, we transcend and "it all comes together" and "makes sense".

In this slice that extends beyond our world, "all is seen" and "all is known". We come to "know" it, but not through a mechanism of our five senses -- sight, sound, smells, touch, tastes -- rather, we "know" it through something of a more intangible force, known as our mind, which grants the universe a variety of senses beyond what humans can know.



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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28510231 - 10/19/23 05:17 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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solarshroomster said:
Trip report

Preface: Wow, okay, still somewhat leveling down from this. Not sure whether to just let it simmer in my mind, relax, or write it down--but, I've decided I want to write it down and share, now that I'm mostly "landed".

Okay, to begin: some context, I've been absolutely driven nuts by the fact that shrooms are illegal when they are, undoubtedly, one of the most healing fruits of our world. It's beyond ridiculous that I need to fly into places where they're decriminalized to get medicine that is very healing to me. So, with that, I was so peeved by the process, that I got a prescription for ketamine to treat my OCD (which is legal). My experience with cannabis and shrooms have been tremendously healing towards this anxiety--it's a damn shame we've made it so hard for people to get this medicine.

Anyhow, so I got a prescription for 350 mg tablets of ketamine. Never took it before.

I was well prepared, because I trip pretty hard on cannabis and shrooms... See reports here:

Cannabis trip - 15mg THC
Shroom trip - 4 g shrooms

Last cannabis trip, I was "gone" for 12 hours, and last shroom trip I was also "gone" for 12 hours, so I've definitely experienced the sense of the world "falling apart and then coming back together again", so to speak. Anyhow, I ramble, here's the report:

**

Trip Report

I lie down in bed getting ready to listen to my trance music and putting on my Mindfold. The 350 mg lozenge sits under my tongue and slowly dissolves. Within 5 minutes, I have this saliva mold in my mouth of ketamine... it's impossible to keep under the tongue, so I swish it around.

Then, it comes on. I feel a sense of calmness and serenity, a sense of having glimpsed something more than our tangible world makes apparent. I now know it's "hitting". Pretty soon, the saliva, just disintegrates in my mouth, and my mouth is dry as I "fall into myself" in ecstasy.

All the sudden, the universe "makes sense". Everything just "makes sense". I start speaking (without speaking), start hearing (without hearing). And I start moving in a coordinated fashion that seems to precede my conscious thought... it does feel as though there's a loss of free will, that the universe is moving along in motions, and I dissolve into the experience.

Everything starts repeating. It's like time takes on a repetitive pattern as things that have already happened in my mind cascade and multiply themselves. Suddenly, the universe / Reality / the Divine / God comes "alive".

I recognize that me tripping is just the universe going through it's pattern of self-discovery. Me seeking enlightenment on ketamine is the universe seeking enrichment of it's self. And, it's pretty cool, because what you are discovering with changing your consciousness is... in fact... the universe having another experience of itself! In other words, I discover that I'm experiencing "real" magic. No such thing as "fake" magic; once experienced, the experience is real... and this is the universe communicating to itself.

I experience an ineffable sensation as though I've seen this all before. It feels like I keep learning this message and keep forgetting, but this pushed me through the threshold.

I get the feeling of how hard I am trying to communicate that the "ineffable" exists, that it's, in the end, an impossible task. All I can do is say: "I've seen it", "I've been 'there'", and,"if you know, 'you know'". Make of that what you will--but, in my mind, I've glimpsed the "hidden world".

I marvel in this ineffable mystery. That nature of something that is indescribable.


During the experience, I kept speaking (without speaking) symbolic meaning:

"Feeling's good"...
"Love is everywhere"...
"We're all interconnected"...
"All is one"...
"I love Reality"...
"The Universe is AWESOME"...
"I just love existence"...
"Wow, wow, wow, wow"

"Feeling's good". (Like how strange it is that the universe can even have something called "feelings" through us, right?)

I apologize if some of this seems platitudinal and cheesy, because that would be an incorrect description of the experience. It was more an understanding how incredible it is to exist and that Reality can have incredible experiences through us and learn through those experiences. That what I was experiencing on ketamine was just the universe's way of coming to understand itself, naturally, and that I've been playing this game with our universal Self through all points of experience throughout History.

Like, in History, there's all been people... and they have the same exact revelation that I'm having. Doesn't matter if it was during Ancient Egypt, now, or the distant future of hovercrafts. That person will be having the same revelation of waking up to the ecstasy of existence... it continues to be "ineffable", continues to be indescribable, which means that it truly is "another form of experiencing Reality". And seeking enlightenment is something we all get around to when the time is right. That this is a learning, and we all learn it, like it's a rite of passage... from tomb to womb, we learn certain life messages, and this "ineffable" "secret" is one of them.

We only live in one version of the universe, but there are many slices of this game. These slices cascade beyond direction and time into other planes we don't quite understand "here".

I happened to enter one of these slices, and, since it isn't congruent with our way of processing Reality, I'm at a loss of words to describe it, but it's almost as if that world, metaphorically, casts a shadow here. "Seeing" the shadow, we don't know what to make out of it; until, we transcend and "it all comes together" and "makes sense".

In this slice that extends beyond our world, "all is seen" and "all is known". We come to "know" it, but not through a mechanism of our five senses -- sight, sound, smells, touch, tastes -- rather, we "know" it through something of a more intangible force, known as our mind, which grants the universe a variety of senses beyond what humans can know.

Journeying to that ineffable plane, we see that the world we just left was a dream and just one point of experience from an infinite see of potential experiences. That it was a story patterned into the story of Reality, which carries forward and emanates all of our lives together as a living, breathing Universe.

**

During the trip, I kept feeling like I "returned", but, it kept going on. Intense effects lasted from 8.30pm - 11.30pm, so three hours. Still somewhat feeling the effects at 1:13am, but slowly returning back and forgetting information of what I learned "there". Honestly, I'm not sure I want a more "intense" experience than this.

But, holy cow, yeah... Reality is profound!



Quote:

solarshroomster said:
My partner recorded some of what I said in trance, and one amazing thing she noted that I forgot.

I told her: "able to read music". Like, I was understanding sentences the universe was transcribing, and music was "coming alive", things that previously I couldn't understand, I could now "hear" and "read". Like, I was feeling how miraculous it was for the universe to be conscious and having feelings and that it communicated an inexpressible pattern that was music to me, something previously indecipherable now made known.

It also felt silly how we go through life not knowing why we exist, and we just play these "roles". Until we "wake up" and "see something higher.

Yeah, I threw up several times, the revelations were so intense. But, damn, good trip.






congratulations!

Not just have you seen the Mystery but for a first time, grasped what it is pretty strongly.

You are now part of the Initiated.

Proud of you :hug:







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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: Asante] * 3
    #28511476 - 10/20/23 08:10 AM (3 months, 7 days ago)

The Hole rings true in meditative experience. It can be the entry and essence of samadhi, whatever else is samadhi.

The Hole is the body, or existence. It is alive, and becomes you. Once within I encountered Rama or Vishnu the same, not in the majestic adornment with weaponry, but only in a loin cloth, sitting as a yogi. The energy was more prominent than the visual, unspeakable, astounding bliss of unlimited nature, His body the space of (encompassing) the cosmos. Within His body I perceived the infinitude of space, with distant galaxies etc.

I think also the Hole or void may be a necessary 'treatment' for some of us given as an undoing, unlearning in the return. Among the aim of the yogas is to 'turn off' the external senses while in wakefulness, otherwise to love, to know the Source of love.


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28511489 - 10/20/23 08:33 AM (3 months, 6 days ago)

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The Hole rings true in meditative experience. It can be the entry and essence of samadhi, whatever else is samadhi.

The Hole is the body, or existence. It is alive, and becomes you. Once within I encountered Rama or Vishnu the same, not in the majestic adornment with weaponry, but only in a loin cloth, sitting as a yogi. The energy was more prominent than the visual, unspeakable, astounding bliss of unlimited nature, His body the space of (encompassing) the cosmos. Within His body I perceived the infinitude of space, with distant galaxies etc.

I think also the Hole or void may be a necessary 'treatment' for some of us given as an undoing, unlearning in the return. Among the aim of the yogas is to 'turn off' the external senses while in wakefulness, otherwise to love, to know the Source of love.





beautifully said.

The core of the Hole has bright golden illumination, its like liquid living gold.


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: Asante] * 1
    #28511546 - 10/20/23 09:52 AM (3 months, 6 days ago)

As i said to Geokills:



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Since you're going for a short experience, pragmatically, i think it would be best to do away with redosing altogether and focus on one dose of sufficient strength to both impress and impart medicinal effect.

With Morrowasted I say that ArCA's like Ketamine, are "breakthrough drugs" like DMT.

With K, there is sobriety and unconsiousness, and the spectrum inbetween.

On that spectrum, you are increasingly disconnected from your sensory input.

This decreases the bandwidth of information coming into your brain.

Your brain must do -something- to deal with that hole in your perception.

It knows just what to do: if too little comes in from outside, the dream engine comes online, filling the hole with internal hallucination. (which too needs to come from somewhere) which you now process consciously.

you have felt like you drank a carboy of brandy and the novelty is wearing off.

If you up the dose you get more intoxicated until.. Suddenly your dream machine kicks in and you are immersed in powerful halluinations more vivid than consensus reality.

That changes everything, that is what makes it a trip.

The drunkenness is a side effect. The moment your inner IMAX blasts its xenon light into intense experience, when after diminishing/dying the Other Side flares up and welcomes you, sight sound, angels singing, entities, rooms, kurrents.. you've come home.

It IS a big deal, not just a gimmick. Your nearly sober mind gets to partake in a part of you normally shrouded in the profound amnesia of sleep.

This says it all:





this man is not experiening the shallow novelty of a sub hole K dose :tongue2:


There is more merit in one dose that suffices than in redosings.




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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: Asante]
    #28511570 - 10/20/23 10:19 AM (3 months, 6 days ago)

The Hole I also thought of as Mahamudra.


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: syncro]
    #28512183 - 10/20/23 05:42 PM (3 months, 6 days ago)

The thing I don't understand is, like, why do I keep forgetting the "message" when I "return" or "land". That's the part that doesn't make any sense to me?
That just like, I totally forget it.
Why?
To me, this is what
Indicates that this world is (constructed).

frOg, pOnd, plOp!


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28512332 - 10/20/23 08:27 PM (3 months, 6 days ago)

For me it's dukkha. I think it is purely the physical body, with that mind that is associated.? Perhaps better said is around the threefold qualities, darkness, middling, and pure. The refined in spiritual experience has a dominance of sattva, purity. Normal waking state in bodily awareness is dominated by rajas, middling, activity, and tamas, inertia. These associate with dukkha, suffering or dissatisfaction. If one can remain with minimal or stilled thought, it doesn't matter much as that mind is in sattva regardless. It is a good reminder, but I am typically not very good at it. Movement of thought is tied to the world appearance, body, dukkha. I'm just throwing stuff out there.


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: syncro]
    #28512349 - 10/20/23 08:34 PM (3 months, 6 days ago)

Oh yeah, and frOg, pOnd, plOp! The suchness is sattva, no doubt, Is-ness. Why? Because the mind is not grasping.


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: syncro]
    #28512593 - 10/21/23 06:44 AM (3 months, 6 days ago)

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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: Asante]
    #28512647 - 10/21/23 08:07 AM (3 months, 6 days ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
As i said to Geokills:



Quote:

Asante said:
Since you're going for a short experience, pragmatically, i think it would be best to do away with redosing altogether and focus on one dose of sufficient strength to both impress and impart medicinal effect.

With Morrowasted I say that ArCA's like Ketamine, are "breakthrough drugs" like DMT.

With K, there is sobriety and unconsiousness, and the spectrum inbetween.

On that spectrum, you are increasingly disconnected from your sensory input.

This decreases the bandwidth of information coming into your brain.

Your brain must do -something- to deal with that hole in your perception.

It knows just what to do: if too little comes in from outside, the dream engine comes online, filling the hole with internal hallucination. (which too needs to come from somewhere) which you now process consciously.

you have felt like you drank a carboy of brandy and the novelty is wearing off.

If you up the dose you get more intoxicated until.. Suddenly your dream machine kicks in and you are immersed in powerful halluinations more vivid than consensus reality.

That changes everything, that is what makes it a trip.

The drunkenness is a side effect. The moment your inner IMAX blasts its xenon light into intense experience, when after diminishing/dying the Other Side flares up and welcomes you, sight sound, angels singing, entities, rooms, kurrents.. you've come home.

It IS a big deal, not just a gimmick. Your nearly sober mind gets to partake in a part of you normally shrouded in the profound amnesia of sleep.

This says it all:





this man is not experiening the shallow novelty of a sub hole K dose :tongue2:


There is more merit in one dose that suffices than in redosings.







This is interesting. I like how you put it, particularly "It IS a big deal, not just a gimmick. Your nearly sober mind gets to partake in a part of you normally shrouded in the profound amnesia of sleep."

I think that that was essentially one revelation I got from the experience: when it comes to existence, Reality, there is no gimmick per se. Everything you experience is an actual real form of magic that Reality can take on. It's not like you can experience "fake" magic for instance.

As for the man's experience, that's interesting. I was like him in the beginning of the trip, as the ketamine started to hit... humming. I felt a need to hum. Don't know what that was about. I hummed until almost I broke out of what I know as Reality and into the world where "all makes sense".

Pretty cool stuff, my friend wrote a little bit about the "ineffable" here, what it feels like to come into contact with it, and what it means to the nature of existence: https://whydoesrealityexist.com/are-you-experiencing-the-impossible/

I think, in psychedelic states, we are getting tapped into another way of processing Reality that isn't congruent with our baseline understanding, at the risk of stating the obvious. It's very much like entering another vibrational wavelength... new ways of deciphering the "noise" around you into "new patterns".


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Re: Taking my first ketamine dose in a little bit [Re: solarshroomster] * 2
    #28522338 - 10/29/23 01:07 PM (2 months, 28 days ago)

I feel like this really described my experience on ketamine very well, as well as my last trip on shrooms:

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Conceptual thinking is defined as an alteration to the nature and content of one's internal thought stream. This alteration predisposes a user to think thoughts which are no longer primarily comprised of words and linear sentence structures. Instead, thoughts become equally comprised of what is perceived to be incredibly detailed renditions of the innately understandable and internally stored concepts for which no words exist. Thoughts cease to be spoken by an internal narrator and are instead “felt” and intuitively understood.

For example, if a person was to think of an idea such as a "chair" during this state, one would not hear the word as part of an internal thought stream, but would feel the internally stored, pre-linguistic and innately understandable data which comprises the specific concept labelled within one's memory as a "chair". These conceptual thoughts are felt in a comprehensive level of detail that feels as if it is unparalleled within the primarily linguistic thought structure of everyday life. This is sometimes interpreted by those who undergo it as some "higher level of understanding".





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