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Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous
#28520724 - 10/27/23 11:07 PM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerousBy Brooke Kato Published Oct. 27, 2023, 7:32 p.m. ET in The NY PostA recent Alaska Airlines flight where an off-duty pilot’s alleged psychedelics-induced outburst exposed passengers and crew to serious risk has prompted the question: What exactly happens to your brain on psilocybin? Psilocybin, the psychedelic component of magic mushrooms, has been touted as an effective treatment for depression, anxiety, addiction and PTSD. This is due to the way the compound allows new brain connections, according to the National Institutes of Health. ‘Shrooms activate the brain’s serotonin receptors, which control things like cognition, mood and perception, according to Medical News Today. People experiencing mental illness typically have less serotonin, or the body’s happy hormone. While traditional treatment methods, such as taking selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs, can take weeks to months to yield results, researchers have been able to witness neuron connectivity in as little as half an hour with mushrooms, according to reports by CNN. In theory, the drug rewires the brain — it allows users to gain new perspectives, or “flexible thinking,” experts told CNN. “Patients with psychiatric disorders, usually their brain is stuck in a circuit that they can’t get out of, and psychedelics break that cycle,” Charles Nemeroff, co-director at the Center for Psychedelic Research & Therapy at the Dell Medical School at the University of Texas at Austin, told the Washington Post. Despite many unknowns about psilocybin, the groundbreaking laboratory discoveries have resulted in state-regulated therapy programs in Oregon, which became the first state to legalize the drug in 2020, with Colorado following in 2022. Meanwhile, the positive effects of magic mushrooms have prompted proud users across the country to take mood-boosting micro-doses — or a fraction of what a standard dose would be — to get through the day. But the psychedelic party-drug-turned-wellness-secre t also has its well-known pitfalls, beyond the legality issue. (New Yorkers, beware — it’s verboten here.)
Notoriously, there’s the possibility of a bad trip — including vivid, often frightening, hallucinations.
Magic mushrooms can make the user see, hear or feel things that aren’t real, which can be distressing and cause accidents. At worst, they can induce psychosis, and those who have a history of mental disorders like bipolar disorder or schizophrenia are more at risk.
For sleep-deprived, off-duty pilot Joseph Emerson — who allegedly downed magic mushrooms for the first time before boarding an Alaska Airlines flight from Everett, Washington, to San Francisco — it meant he believed he was dreaming.
According to the affidavit, he “pulled both emergency shut-off handles” because he just wanted to “wake up,” putting everyone on board in danger.
Emerson was reportedly on 40 hours of no sleep and had taken the psychoactive mushrooms about two days before boarding the flight. While the drug’s effects typically only last four to six hours, experts believe ‘shroom-induced psychosis can last well beyond when the drug has left the body.
“When a psychotic episode is triggered, it’s not about the effects of the drug at all,” Nemeroff told the Washington Post. “It takes on a life of its own.”
Reactions depend on a number of factors — the person’s mental state, environment, personality and dose of psilocybin they ingested — and risks include paranoia, anxiety, confusion.
“This is why we administer psychedelics in a controlled setting, so that we can make sure people stay hydrated and we can monitor their heart rate,” Nemeroff told the Washington Post.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: sonoramo] 2
#28520748 - 10/28/23 12:29 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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"A recent Alaska Airlines flight where an off-duty pilot’s alleged psychedelics-induced outburst exposed passengers and crew to serious risk has prompted the question: What exactly happens to your brain on psilocybin?"
There was no indication or evidence he took them on the plane. This is old school anti mushrooms fear-mongering.
Do we really have to read this crap on Shroomery?
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: superreggie] 5
#28520815 - 10/28/23 03:51 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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superreggie said: Do we really have to read this crap on Shroomery?
I think it is useful for us to know the perspective of the anti drug portion of society. The article is clearly biased and based on many unproved/unfounded assumptions. However, knowing the arguments the anti drug people use will prepare us to indicate their irrational arguments whenever a debate occurs. I'm hoping these substances could at least become decriminalized and their use destigmatized. This will only occur through education of the public. And in order to educate, we have to identify the misinformation that has been pushed into society.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: superreggie]
#28520943 - 10/28/23 09:05 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Perhaps without realizing it, Brooke Kato has given you a reason which has nothing to do with drugs, per se:
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In theory, the drug rewires the brain — it allows users to gain new perspectives, or “flexible thinking,” experts told CNN.
“Patients with psychiatric disorders, usually their brain is stuck in a circuit that they can’t get out of, and psychedelics break that cycle...”

Maybe, 99.5% of the time, Emerson was just a sleep-deprived, inflexible, tight-ass. (Blamelessly.) And, his brain was still mostly stuck in a circuit that he couldn’t get out of.
So far as we know, he did one fun thing, ever, four days before the flight.
But, which Emerson pulled the levers?
He seemed far more devoted to his corporatist lifestyle choice, overall.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: sonoramo]
#28521064 - 10/28/23 11:48 AM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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I'd be so afraid to take such a powerful drug on a plane. Guaranteed bad trip for me
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: Kmacmo] 1
#28521088 - 10/28/23 12:12 PM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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Kmacmo said: I'd be so afraid to take such a powerful drug on a plane. Guaranteed bad trip for me
He took the mushrooms 2 days prior prior to his flight.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: sonoramo]
#28521687 - 10/28/23 09:35 PM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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All it takes is one rumor about one guy to set everything back decades.
No one even knows if the guy took mushrooms at all, and even the reports that he did, he wasn't under the influence at the time, but took them days prior. And that's assuming he took any at all, which we have zero evidence of.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: nooneman] 2
#28522284 - 10/29/23 12:18 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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nooneman said: All it takes is one rumor about one guy to set everything back decades.
No one even knows if the guy took mushrooms at all, and even the reports that he did, he wasn't under the influence at the time, but took them days prior. And that's assuming he took any at all, which we have zero evidence of.

Media gives no fucks about science or facts or anything these days. All they care about, especially something like the fucking NY Post, which is equivalent to the National Enquirer in terms of reporting levels - actually worse IMO - is getting clicks and fearmongering headlines that draw people to click on the link so they can sell ads and your data via all their trackers they have on the site that automatically load until you reject them so they already have everything after the first click.
NY post isn't even worth wiping your ass with if in print, the digital version isn't worth your time, their stealing minutes from you
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: Typerwritermonky]
#28522806 - 10/29/23 08:44 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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The forty hours no sleep probably had nothing to do with it. "Taken two days before the flight" It was the no sleep im thinking
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: GenericHero]
#28522841 - 10/29/23 09:22 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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That man was delusional from lack of sleep. This article disappoints
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: lil_demented]
#28522883 - 10/29/23 10:14 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Everyone seems to be overlooking how FAA rules (and company culture/policy) make seeking any kind of formal treatment for depression (or any kind of mental concern you might have about yourself) essentially a career ending move.
There needs to be a pathway for pilots to get care they need without these actual risks and they need to be made clear so there is no perception of risks before they will be taken advantage of.
But it is so much easier to blame the psychoactive trip.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: Geezus]
#28523198 - 10/30/23 09:40 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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This was already reported on here at the shroomery: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28516791
Consensus is that it's just bad reporting. Most articles don't even mention the shrooms.
Here's an excerpt from another article:
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It’s common for off duty pilots and flight crew to take flights to or from their work assignments. A short time into the Oct. 22 flight home to San Francisco, Emerson, who at 6′1″ hated riding in the cramped jumpseat, threw off his headset and said, “I’m not OK,” according to court records. He hadn’t slept in 40 hours. He was under tremendous stress at home and work, he was depressed and had just spent a weekend remembering his dead friend.
At some point during the preceding somber two days, Emerson took psychedelic mushrooms, he told investigators. Stretch was shocked when she found that out. She said her husband would never take anything more than allergy medicine and was afraid to be in rooms where people were smoking marijuana because it could have jeopardized his medical clearance.
Emerson told police he thought he had been dreaming when he reached up and pulled the handles activating the fire suppression system. He willingly left the cockpit and asked flight attendants to restrain him, fearing he might do something else.
An FBI affidavit suggested Emerson was on hallucinogenic mushrooms at the time he tried to activate the fuel suppression system. The agent who wrote the affidavit said Emerson told a police officer it was his first time taking the drug. The affidavit does not mention that Emerson told the officer he’d eaten the mushrooms about a day and a half prior or that the officer noted Emerson did not appear under the influence of any substance at the time. Mushrooms’ mind-altering effects last about six hours.
https://www.opb.org/article/2023/10/27/horizon-alaska-pilot-in-flight-accident-depression-mental-health-stigman/
Weekend of remembering a dead friend on shrooms + 40 hours no sleep + in a cramped/uncomfortable situation. Yeah. I believe him. Man was sleep walking
Edited by Jacubey (10/30/23 10:16 AM)
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: Jacubey] 1
#28523217 - 10/30/23 10:08 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Jacubey said: This was already reported on here at the shroomery: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28516791
Consensus is that it's just bad reporting. Most articles don't even mention the shrooms...
Maybe it's because I have "mushrooms" as a newsfeed topic, but pretty much all the stories I saw about the incident focused on the mushrooms. YMMV.
For the NY Post and similar tabloids, this isn't "bad reporting" but "great click-baiting!"
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: Typerwritermonky]
#28523467 - 10/30/23 02:30 PM (6 months, 15 days ago) |
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nooneman said: All it takes is one rumor about one guy to set everything back decades.
No one is a good or bad example. Policy is based on whether you want to control others, irrespective of how they are acting.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: durian_2008]
#28524029 - 10/30/23 09:58 PM (6 months, 15 days ago) |
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I am shocked the media didn't write "Joseph Emerson shot up the magic mushrooms into his vein with a needle and then snorted a thick line of magic mushroom powder as he downed a whole bottle of mushroom infused vodka while smoking a crack pipe full of magic mushrooms".
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: PsychoReactive]
#28526919 - 11/02/23 05:56 PM (6 months, 12 days ago) |
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He consumed the mushrooms 48 hours before the flight. There is no way he was still tripping. There has to be more going on here.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: Typerwritermonky]
#28529781 - 11/05/23 12:44 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Typerwritermonky said:
NY post isn't even worth wiping your ass with if in print, the digital version isn't worth your time, their stealing minutes from you
They are shit but they drop the dirt on the unDemocratic Party so they are not totally worthless.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: jackl4]
#28530444 - 11/05/23 10:50 AM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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jackl4 said: He consumed the mushrooms 48 hours before the flight. There is no way he was still tripping. There has to be more going on here.
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durian_2008 said: So far as we know, he did one fun thing, ever, four days before the flight.
But, which Emerson pulled the levers?
The Emerson which pulled the levers was a normie created by typical working conditions in consensus reality.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: durian_2008]
#28531556 - 11/06/23 10:20 AM (6 months, 8 days ago) |
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durian_2008 said:
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jackl4 said: He consumed the mushrooms 48 hours before the flight. There is no way he was still tripping. There has to be more going on here.
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durian_2008 said: So far as we know, he did one fun thing, ever, four days before the flight.
But, which Emerson pulled the levers?
The Emerson which pulled the levers was a normie created by typical working conditions in consensus reality.
"The Emerson which..." You think of Emerson as a thing?
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: GenericHero]
#28531622 - 11/06/23 11:25 AM (6 months, 8 days ago) |
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Not technically my best grammar.
Or, if you want to split hairs, as the gorilla guy on the plane, I would be in the position of subduing someone who I do not particularly want to touch or interact with, in any way, and I would run the legal risk of it being called mutual combat or illegal detention, or something to remind me that I am not a state interest, with the right to stop such a problem.
Emerson is an "it" to me.
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: durian_2008]
#28531744 - 11/06/23 01:09 PM (6 months, 8 days ago) |
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Emerson is an "it" to me.
Fair enough. Best not to get involved. Best case they interview you on the local news and the sheriff gives you a framed paper with hero or bravery written on it. I'd ask for speed bumps to be placed around my neighborhood
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Re: Here’s what magic mushrooms do to your brain — it’s absolutely wild, and potentially dangerous [Re: GenericHero] 1
#28531768 - 11/06/23 01:22 PM (6 months, 8 days ago) |
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I am an altruist at heart and would prefer the simpler explanations we are given for the facts of life and to just enjoy my ginger ale.
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GenericHero said: Best case they interview you on the local news and the sheriff gives you a framed paper with hero or bravery written on it.
In case I can save any of you stronger readers the trouble, that is not how it works in real life.
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