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Coping with cannabis withdrawal
    #28511437 - 10/20/23 07:30 AM (8 months, 4 days ago)

I've been smoking weed (and later hash) daily for about a year now. At some point, I was curious to take a break and see how I'm feeling. So, this summer I stopped smoking for a week. I generally felt just great, no cravings, regaining long-forgotten mind sharpness and stuff. The only withdrawal symptom I experienced was insomnia. I would manage to sleep 2-3 hours at night and maybe another hour during the day. That was annoying, so I decided to keep smoking, cuz what the hell, weed makes everything better, having to do it daily sounds more like good news.

Now, my friend invited me to travel to another country. Uh-oh. I'm not gonna cross the border with weight on me, neither am I to spend my vacation trying to find weed.

So, I'm taking another break to recover before my flight. It's been a week, and again, an amazing and unusually productive week. But hello, insomnia. Fuckin hell, I didn't even smoke that much, a gram of hash would last me a month or so.

I'm posting this mainly to complain, but any withdrawal insomnia tips not involving medication or such extreme and demanding practices as sport are welcome.


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: kyu] * 1
    #28511482 - 10/20/23 08:17 AM (8 months, 4 days ago)

Try listening to delta brainwave binaural beats as you try to fall asleep? they're my cheatcodes for when i need to get into a meditative space fast- and it usually helps.


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: themarsdude] * 1
    #28511495 - 10/20/23 08:42 AM (8 months, 4 days ago)

I find exercise really helps with insomnia. I know you said no medication but have you tried melatonin? Might help you out.

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: kyu] * 5
    #28511507 - 10/20/23 09:00 AM (8 months, 4 days ago)

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kyu said: any withdrawal insomnia tips not involving... such extreme and demanding practices as sport




Oh, so you do know what you need to do...


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: B Traven] * 1
    #28511544 - 10/20/23 09:51 AM (8 months, 4 days ago)

sleepy meds

No drugs or exercise? Not much to work with there


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: GenericHero] * 8
    #28511565 - 10/20/23 10:14 AM (8 months, 4 days ago)

I use cannabis to cope with my cannabis withdrawal :ancientaliens:


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: B Traven] * 4
    #28511686 - 10/20/23 12:03 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

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kyu said: any withdrawal insomnia tips not involving... such extreme and demanding practices as sport




Oh, so you do know what you need to do...





Lots of masturbation, amiright?  :fingerpistol:



OP, I know you said no drugs, but melatonin helped me for a little to sleep.

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: spirit_shadow] * 3
    #28511817 - 10/20/23 01:31 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

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I use cannabis to cope with my cannabis withdrawal :ancientaliens:




This guy withdrawals


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: spirit_shadow] * 4
    #28512032 - 10/20/23 03:49 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

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Lots of masturbation, amiright?  :fingerpistol:





So true, so much better than melatonin

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I use cannabis to cope with my cannabis withdrawal :ancientaliens:




Loool I actually followed your advise today, that's the lifehack I've been looking for yeeeeah


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: kyu] * 3
    #28512035 - 10/20/23 03:51 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

:havesomescience:

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: psi] * 4
    #28512128 - 10/20/23 04:58 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

Make sure to plug the melatonin while masturbating for maximum results

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: cubedryeguy] * 1
    #28512164 - 10/20/23 05:31 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

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Make sure to plug the melatonin while masturbating for maximum results




Make sure to black out the room as well.


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: GenericHero] * 2
    #28512311 - 10/20/23 08:10 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

Give chamomile a try. A natural, herbal insomnia aid. You may say that it doesn't do much. But it is possible to escalate the dose - this can be done quite safely, as it's a very safe herb all things considered. It mildly promotes GABA. I've been drinking maybe 3-5grams of chamomile per cup in my tea, but starting with a half of gram could work, and adjust accordingly.

While its effect isn't anything in comparison to alcohol or cannabis, I think it can be a mild thing to help push you into sleep. Sometimes it just takes a little bit of a mindset change to make sleep completely different. Chamomile can serve that purpose, activating some of the same regions of your brain as cannabis, but not in a euphoric way.

Give it a try and see if you feel anything.

Another, also quite safe, herb people have talked about for anxiety here is lemon balm.

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: kyu]
    #28512792 - 10/21/23 09:39 AM (8 months, 3 days ago)

Dude once at a festival we were all on molly and acid and people were coming down and just wanted to sleep and weed wasn't helping. So we packed a bong with some random girl's chamomile tea she brought along and sent it round. People were knocked TF out by that shit:eek:

Would recommend for insomnia:thumbup:

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: kyu]
    #28512812 - 10/21/23 10:02 AM (8 months, 3 days ago)

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I've been smoking weed (and later hash) daily for about a year now. At some point, I was curious to take a break and see how I'm feeling. So, this summer I stopped smoking for a week. I generally felt just great, no cravings, regaining long-forgotten mind sharpness and stuff. The only withdrawal symptom I experienced was insomnia. I would manage to sleep 2-3 hours at night and maybe another hour during the day. That was annoying, so I decided to keep smoking, cuz what the hell, weed makes everything better, having to do it daily sounds more like good news.

Now, my friend invited me to travel to another country. Uh-oh. I'm not gonna cross the border with weight on me, neither am I to spend my vacation trying to find weed.

So, I'm taking another break to recover before my flight. It's been a week, and again, an amazing and unusually productive week. But hello, insomnia. Fuckin hell, I didn't even smoke that much, a gram of hash would last me a month or so.

I'm posting this mainly to complain, but any withdrawal insomnia tips not involving medication or such extreme and demanding practices as sport are welcome.




Sauna/swimming pool/spa type thing for a few hrs, especially before bed

Perhaps start a chess.com account, that seems to keep me completely occupued/frustrated for hours on end

Go buy a shit ton of fruit and liquids and i would get a bottle of advil too cause fuck it

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: stzacrack]
    #28512846 - 10/21/23 10:37 AM (8 months, 3 days ago)

My friend pukes maybe 1 out of 10 ten times he smokes weed. Seen him puke a few times. Said it had always been like that for him.

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: Mystikal]
    #28512921 - 10/21/23 12:01 PM (8 months, 3 days ago)

I've been smoking hashish everyday for like over 15 years. Quitting is unbelievably hard and I've kicked IV heroin and cocaine. Nicotine and cannabis seem to be the hardest thing to put down and stay away from for me. The worst part as you said was the insomnia but what made me go back most was the insane really stressful dreams I was having during the like 2-4hrs a night I was sleeping that would awake me up ridiculous. This time I want to try maybe CBD gummies before bed until I can ween off those. But anyway toward your point I've never really had any issues with vacations. I feel like you get some kind of vacation buzz and with all the activities and shit you don't notice not having weed. Maybe a vacation is your solution in itself where it will give you time away from weed and eliminate any temptation. Pretty much the best thing for being sober is to fill your day with activities and healthy distractions so that when it comes time to go to bed your out like a light :sadyes:

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28512923 - 10/21/23 12:03 PM (8 months, 3 days ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I feel like you get some kind of vacation buzz and with all the activities and shit you don't notice not having weed.





I find this to be true until I try to go to bed on vacation.  When I smoked a lot and went on a trip without weed, I would not sleep well at all for the first few nights.

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28513054 - 10/21/23 01:51 PM (8 months, 3 days ago)

I wouldn't stress it too much, in my experience, when I travel I wear myself out so much that the insomnia I might experience at home doesn't really apply. Besides wherever you're going they probably have weed. I don't think I've ever been anywhere where they didn't

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: morrowasted]
    #28513070 - 10/21/23 01:59 PM (8 months, 3 days ago)

stay busy, go outside and get out of breath

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #28513072 - 10/21/23 02:00 PM (8 months, 3 days ago)

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morrowasted said: I don't think I've ever been anywhere where they didn't




I'm old enough to decide that I won't choose to go anywhere that they don't have weed. It's not even about being able to blaze, more just what that signifies.

I've heard that it's around in some surprising areas- like North Korea, where they think nothing of it.

I bet they even still have a decent supply of hash in Gaza right now.

So, yeah. Fuck Singapore. I'm not even all that curious about the national equivalent of a weird mall that has half a dozen boba tea places and asshole security guards.


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: B Traven] * 1
    #28513116 - 10/21/23 02:29 PM (8 months, 3 days ago)

Idk where he is going but all throughout the americas and most of Europe it's easy to get. Usually you can just Google the name of the city and where to find weed and an answer will come up. Some places have dispensary type deals and other places it's just like look for people with dreadlocks sitting around in a circle at such and such a square.  One way or another it's never hard to find, and frankly and probably half the cities I go to within 30 minutes of me just walking around I've been accosted by a drug dealer. In lisbon I couldn't walk 50 yards without someone trying to sell me hash /coke/molly. I generally ignore anyone that approaches me like that because they usually have overpriced garbage.

Not always though. In lisbon I ended up going to a head shop and when I walked out the door the owner came out from the back. In this case I heard what the man had to say, and it was worth my while. Sold me an oz of dank buds in a fancy glass jar for 120 euros which felt like an absolute steal to me in 2014.

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28513134 - 10/21/23 02:41 PM (8 months, 3 days ago)

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I've been smoking hashish everyday for like over 15 years. Quitting is unbelievably hard and I've kicked IV heroin and cocaine. Nicotine and cannabis seem to be the hardest thing to put down and stay away from for me. The worst part as you said was the insomnia but what made me go back most was the insane really stressful dreams I was having during the like 2-4hrs a night I was sleeping that would awake me up ridiculous. This time I want to try maybe CBD gummies before bed until I can ween off those. But anyway toward your point I've never really had any issues with vacations. I feel like you get some kind of vacation buzz and with all the activities and shit you don't notice not having weed. Maybe a vacation is your solution in itself where it will give you time away from weed and eliminate any temptation. Pretty much the best thing for being sober is to fill your day with activities and healthy distractions so that when it comes time to go to bed your out like a light :sadyes:




Yeah I think it really varies by person what substances you might be most susceptible to addiction to. Alcohol and nicotine I can take or leave and never developed a consistent habit. But I've used weed and caffeine every day for a lot of my adult life.

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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: morrowasted]
    #28513146 - 10/21/23 02:50 PM (8 months, 3 days ago)

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Idk where he is going but all throughout the americas and most of Europe it's easy to get. Usually you can just Google the name of the city and where to find weed and an answer will come up. Some places have dispensary type deals and other places it's just like look for people with dreadlocks sitting around in a circle at such and such a square.  One way or another it's never hard to find, and frankly and probably half the cities I go to within 30 minutes of me just walking around I've been accosted by a drug dealer. In lisbon I couldn't walk 50 yards without someone trying to sell me hash /coke/molly. I generally ignore anyone that approaches me like that because they usually have overpriced garbage.

Not always though. In lisbon I ended up going to a head shop and when I walked out the door the owner came out from the back. In this case I heard what the man had to say, and it was worth my while. Sold me an oz of dank buds in a fancy glass jar for 120 euros which felt like an absolute steal to me in 2014.




It feels a little odd and profile-ey to type it out this way, but every single time I got approached by a Moroccan on the streets of southern europe, I got a good deal on some great hash. I eventually became aware of the general pricing, and looking back, I realized that all those guys on the street had given me the exact honest rate. By muscle memory alone, no less.

The best was the time that this kid led me down a dark alley and pulled out a big knife....then asked me for a lighter. Then pulled out the brick that he was going to shave my portion off of lol

Then he left me with the stuff while I went into a bar to get change. I felt like a dick for doubting him, when he totally trusted me two minutes later.

But from an American perspective, it was all sketchy as fuck.


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: psi]
    #28513157 - 10/21/23 02:55 PM (8 months, 3 days ago)

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I've been smoking hashish everyday for like over 15 years. Quitting is unbelievably hard and I've kicked IV heroin and cocaine. Nicotine and cannabis seem to be the hardest thing to put down and stay away from for me. The worst part as you said was the insomnia but what made me go back most was the insane really stressful dreams I was having during the like 2-4hrs a night I was sleeping that would awake me up ridiculous. This time I want to try maybe CBD gummies before bed until I can ween off those. But anyway toward your point I've never really had any issues with vacations. I feel like you get some kind of vacation buzz and with all the activities and shit you don't notice not having weed. Maybe a vacation is your solution in itself where it will give you time away from weed and eliminate any temptation. Pretty much the best thing for being sober is to fill your day with activities and healthy distractions so that when it comes time to go to bed your out like a light :sadyes:




Yeah I think it really varies by person what substances you might be most susceptible to addiction to. Alcohol and nicotine I can take or leave and never developed a consistent habit. But I've used weed and caffeine every day for a lot of my adult life.




Some of it is your lifelong consumption pattern, I'm sure.

I'm a daily cannabis user now, but find it relatively easy to take tolerance breaks. I don't have a compelling reason to go more than a few days without weed, and medical reasons not to. But it also doesn't seem like such a big deal.

But I didn't start consuming cannabis daily until my late 30's. In my teens and early 20's, it was a far more sporadic endeavor. It still feels "special" to smoke regularly.


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Re: Coping with cannabis withdrawal [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28513240 - 10/21/23 04:14 PM (8 months, 3 days ago)

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I've been smoking hashish everyday for like over 15 years. Quitting is unbelievably hard and I've kicked IV heroin and cocaine. Nicotine and cannabis seem to be the hardest thing to put down and stay away from for me. The worst part as you said was the insomnia but what made me go back most was the insane really stressful dreams I was having during the like 2-4hrs a night I was sleeping that would awake me up ridiculous. This time I want to try maybe CBD gummies before bed until I can ween off those. But anyway toward your point I've never really had any issues with vacations. I feel like you get some kind of vacation buzz and with all the activities and shit you don't notice not having weed. Maybe a vacation is your solution in itself where it will give you time away from weed and eliminate any temptation. Pretty much the best thing for being sober is to fill your day with activities and healthy distractions so that when it comes time to go to bed your out like a light :sadyes:




God, the dreams... I'm taking a little break. Last night was the first dream I've had in months. What a backlog. Girlfriend died, fucked my life by stealing a few thousand dollars with Clive Owen from some kinda Mafia guys. Had to move in with my deceased girlfriend's father... Etc


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So, yeah. Fuck Singapore. I'm not even all that curious about the national equivalent of a weird mall that has half a dozen boba tea places and asshole security guards.




:lol:


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Edited by GenericHero (10/21/23 04:16 PM)

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