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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: Nillion]
#28515181 - 10/23/23 11:26 AM (3 months, 4 days ago) |
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durian_2008 said: Actually, there is discussion regarding whether simple life forms learn without brains.
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Nillion said: I think the recent observations about what appears to be apparent consciousness in jellyfish is rather interesting myself.
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durian_2008 said: There are studies in which worms fed the RNA of other worms can remember their tricks
And, jellyfish are being eaten to supplement human memory. 
Some people claiming to have ESP would regard the electrical field in terms of a virtual bodypart, in which case, the sensory organs would not be solid in the conventional sense, or scientifically unrecognized organs of the body might act as meta materials.
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durian_2008 said: All scientific discovery should be preoccupied with the paranormal, except it is a captive industry. ...
I find that quite a bit of scientific evidence presented in experiments does not mean what the experimenter thinks it means. this is pretty hallucinatory.
and yeah, pinky is para
The unpleasant (bad rollercoaster ride) sensation in my belly and war of mind. Para(trooper).
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: Pinkerton]
#28556071 - 11/25/23 02:03 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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I would hide within a modern convenience or business model, some unexplained feature, that is proof of my concept.
Although, I am giving it a conventional explanation that is palatable to the patent office.
It is an artifact, produced by physical mediumship, or a violation of thermodynamics.
And, anyone who wants to match my performance standards will have to copy my hitherto paranormal, newly discovered law of nature, as though it had was already, commonly accepted.
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: durian_2008] 1
#28556564 - 11/25/23 09:41 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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You can’t call genes memory. It’s just not memory. They’re genes being passed on to express certain traits in future generations. That is not the same as memory… it may seem kind of similar to memory when framed in certain ways, but it’s an entirely different process, therefore we give it a different name.
As for proving the paranormal, the only correct answer was given as the first reply to the initial post
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: Bardy]
#28556602 - 11/25/23 10:58 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Does your DNA get affected by things that occur in your life?
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: BrendanFlock] 1
#28556613 - 11/25/23 11:22 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah, it definitely does change during our lives. Not a heck of a lot though if I remember correctly.
Mutations are your DNA changing. UV rays can change your DNA. DNA can kind of accidentally change itself when replicating. It’s almost perfect at replicating with close to 100% accuracy, but does make mistakes here and there.
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: Bardy]
#28556634 - 11/26/23 12:54 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Why do the mistakes happen?
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28556636 - 11/26/23 01:00 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Lot of different reasons. I’m no expert. I think it’s usually from external influences like viruses, radiation, chemical damage etc.
Look it up
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: Bardy]
#28556675 - 11/26/23 03:05 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Can you connect to your DNA and change it via your consciousness?
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28556696 - 11/26/23 03:57 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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not a chance in hell, unless you have telepathic control over crisper, and you know each codon precisely.
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I can see DNA strips and ribbons in my minds eye..
I try to tune into them.. like a tuner on an instrument.
Tweaking the means and methods of my DNA..
Dynamic base, acid Alkaloid.
Nucleotide.
DNA communicates on a sequence array from the electromagnetic spectrum..
D-branes contain electrodynamic forces..
Starting with nothing, then a point, then a line.. then a square.. then a circle.. then sphere.. than all the partial dimensions.
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28556712 - 11/26/23 04:48 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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The principle is that consciousness is made of fields of dimensions..
Leary made up the 8 circuit system of consciousness.
Higher dimensions control lesser ones..
Therefore the highest people rule.. the cause way..
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28556713 - 11/26/23 04:51 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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dancing in your mind changes how you feel, and doing this dna dance sounds fun, but it is not a paranormal feely way of changing your body's cells' actual dna chemical composition.
it's your art form or expression of Brendanity!
with your understanding of DNA chemistry, you should feel lucky that you are just being Brendan.
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DNA Dance… love it haha
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: Bardy]
#28556903 - 11/26/23 09:03 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Bardy said: You can’t call genes memory.
DNA can be used as a medium for computer memory.
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28556936 - 11/26/23 09:23 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Keep a journal of your experiences. Try to get them on video. I was able to get one on video. Really you are the only person that needs to believe it.
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: durian_2008]
#28557028 - 11/26/23 10:38 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Bardy said: You can’t call genes memory.
DNA can be used as a medium for computer memory.
in an unstable proof of concept this is technically true. The encoding and decoding of the data, however, is not trivial nor is it realistic for living tissue to produce. After such a record of data is made, it is subject to ageing, mutation etc. therefore I would not recommend more work in that direction except as a form of espionage messaging, i.e. expensive spycraft.
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: redgreenvines]
#28557731 - 11/26/23 08:05 PM (2 months, 17 hours ago) |
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For DNA to be used like a computer chip it has to have processing power.. which requires manipulation of the molecule as a current flows through it..
So there fore it must be changeable via human manipulation.
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: Pinkerton]
#28557814 - 11/26/23 09:58 PM (2 months, 15 hours ago) |
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Pinkerton said: I have experienced the paranormal crystal clear, ergo the evidence is there, but how to prove?
Lots of twisty conversations can come from this, but I wonder why you need to prove anything.
I think the answer lies in who you are trying to prove something to. You'll have to overcome their biases and experiences in a manner they find convincing if you want them to feel as though something is proven.
Many people rely on fragments of the scientific process for establishing proof, but the truth is most people don't understand what the scientific process is... so I go back to figuring out what qualifies to them as an individual.
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Re: How do you prove the paranormal? [Re: CrayolaHalls]
#28557934 - 11/27/23 03:54 AM (2 months, 9 hours ago) |
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good point Crayola
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