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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: what-ok]
    #28564926 - 12/02/23 08:29 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

I always listen to TM and wonder how he can have such good recollection of his trips. For me it’s so hard to remember. But as I get there it’s so familiar. It’s just weird in general how humans Believe in god and never physically see god. and it’s strange how a drug can make you feel the prescense of an entity. So I guess the entity is always there? And is that entity god? I’ve written things down after coming down from dmt and some of the things I’ve written are, “aliens exist, god exists” basically I was completely assured I had contact with something way more intelligent than me. I knew I’d forget so I tried to write it down right after and once filmed myself too.
I just am scared because my brother used to be dillusional and would talk to oujia boards and would think aliens were coming to pick him up. When you say aliens or god immediately some people will think you’re completely insane. So I’m scared of getting too obsessed with it.
For example, I know tripping is good but idk why really. It feels good but I never know when I should do it next.

But it’s a relief to know there is something there. I just wonder what the point of knowing it is. I guess knowing there is a god or higher intelligence will make you behave and realize you’re always being watched. It probably like how a dog looks at a human. They are happy we exist and look up to us for our intelligence.

I also am confused of why tripping is like a dual function. It makes you feel very euphoric due to the serotonin system activity but then you can feel or see god. It’s not like you just all the sudden see god and feel normal. You have this physical high feeling too.
When I’m smoking dmt sometimes I feel like this is a normal thing to do for other things too. Like that dmt is almost a nutritious healing tool. And so maybe there are other human type people in other planets that have dmt too. Idk that’s just what I remember from one time smoking it and first feeling completely like a crack head to something reassuring me that tons of other people do it too.
But I’m gonna try to see if high doses of mushrooms can bring me there because I haven’t had mushrooms in a while


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: dubbtronix12345] * 1
    #28564936 - 12/02/23 08:36 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

I think Terrence Mckenna makes stuff up to fill in the blanks in his own delusional reality.

the way you describe your DMT encounters with more intelligent entities, reminds me how dumb I seem to become on Salvia while surrounded by the residue of my own intelligence (which may seem to be autonomous entities).

Salvia is somewhat like DMT I think, or maybe it's a bit more severe.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: tree frog]
    #28564938 - 12/02/23 08:36 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

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tree frog said:
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redgreenvines said:
coyote the trickster is a good friend to native americans




I've seen both good and evil trickster spirits.  I think the evil ones were lingering stuff from being teased as a kid.  Faces sticking their tongues out, shit like that.

The coyote type energy I've also seen as kitsune.  Nine tailed fox spirit.  It's tails a fractal spanning all across space and time.

Mostly I see snakes though.  Some small some big.  Saw a giant one once that I believe was a manifestation of spacetime.  Both the giver and taker of all life.  The belly of the beast we all manifest from and return to when we die, to transform into something else.

Impermanence herself.  Change.

If I have a God or Goddess, that is her.



I once saw a trickster exactly like you described. And I described him as a trickster. It was so fitting. Kinda a smart assey, neener neener kind of playful way about him.
I never understood his purpose or why he was there other then he just was.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: loladoreen] * 2
    #28565065 - 12/02/23 10:30 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

maybe trickster is the personification of frustration from lack of familiarity, lack of understanding, lack of knowing what to do, lack of maturity too.

the trickster also reminds us that we cannot know in advance what will happen, nor can we know what we have not yet encountered, and this is a great leveler for all of us.

every creature has its tricks in its niche, dancing the incredible dance of its life force, so taken out of our element the adventure begins, and trickster/coyote reins supreme - and again we dance to coyote's howl.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28565151 - 12/02/23 11:34 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

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Salvia is somewhat like DMT I think, or maybe it's a bit more severe.




a friend once said, salvia is the retarded lil cousin of DMT :laugh:


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: epilectric] * 1
    #28565203 - 12/02/23 12:26 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

I once heard salvia kicks you in the nuts and laughs.

DMT kicks you in the nuts but apologizes.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: tree frog]
    #28565220 - 12/02/23 12:40 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

In any case, the trickster knows me well, and I kinda know it


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28566395 - 12/03/23 08:08 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

Listening to Clint Eastwood.

"Picture you getting down in a picture tube
Like you lit the fuse, you think it's fictional? Mystical? Maybe
Spiritual hero who appears in you to clear your view
When you're too crazy"

Reminds me of a lot of encounters with compassionate entities.

Of course, I usually dose "when I'm too crazy" lol

Sometimes I just gotta clear my head you know.  Or clear my view in this case.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: tree frog]
    #28566407 - 12/03/23 08:15 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

That entity was not compassionate.:lol:
Great song though.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28566443 - 12/03/23 08:41 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

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That entity was not compassionate.:lol:
Great song though.




I think any entity that is intending to clear my view is acting out of compassion.  edit: but maybe I don't have a clear view of the song lol

The hindrances and pride though, those fuckers will make up all sorts of shit.  They think they're helping but damn, I had a whole conversation with my anger last night (soberish, weed and my nerve meds).  I was like dude, look at all the problems we've caused getting pissed off and ACTING on that anger.

Anger had no response so I guess it went back into store consciousness (yogacara term).


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: tree frog] * 1
    #28566563 - 12/03/23 10:21 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

Question to ponder:

How are entities which are perceived during certain psychedelic experiences fundamentally any different in their nature to those which are perceived while dreaming?

On another yet slightly similar related note, here's a story:

I once had a peculiar experience while dreaming, I was in bed -mostly asleep - dream perceiving - while simultaneously some odd occurrence happened by chance that an OBE wherein the perception that I could see myself in bed from above and off to the side was happening too.  From the latter perspective, nothing was there beyond my bedroom, its furnishings, and a body resting in bed.  On the other hand - the awareness of dream remained, akin to something like Picture-in-Picture mode.

Like having one eyeball open to what's occurring in the hallucinated dream, and another open to the waking world.  The latter could not see what the former could, and the former could not perceive what the latter could.  Yet, awareness of both occurring simultaneously remained - that is, until that awareness looked for itself, then the triplet form view (idk what else to call it) collapsed, and I woke up and went on with my day.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: tree frog] * 3
    #28566572 - 12/03/23 10:33 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

I believe it's human nature to think there's something more, something beyond the next hill – a god, aliens, UFOs, or something else. It's this belief that propels us forward, driving us to explore, search, and seek answers.

During my recent trip, the focus was on octopuses, contemplating their intelligence and how different they are from all other life on Earth – true aliens. I pondered the ethical dilemma of consuming them, considering their multiple brains, intricate nervous systems, and remarkable adaptability. They are clever enough to exploit situations, even venturing out of aquariums at night to find food elsewhere.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28566603 - 12/03/23 11:04 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

Generally you're more aware when you encounter entities tripping.  You still have a sense of agency.

Unless you're a lucid dreamer.  In which case I don't know that they're fundamentally different.

When I was abusing DXM it was basically a lucid dream state.

But there's still this feeling of otherness, or mystery when I encounter entities tripping.  On DXM I felt more like I was dreaming and the entities were me communicating.  My subconscious working through shit while I observed.

I generally don't feel that way when I encounter entities on mushrooms.  Often,if I ask for a guide, they show up.  And I enjoy the light show while they watch for negative energy to come up, so they can heal it.

It's weird but when I ask for a guide it's kinda like inviting a spiritual doctor into my house (house here being my whole body and mind).

I don't know.  They feel different when it's happening.  Much different than dream entities.

Maybe I should spend some time sober, and ask for guidance before bed?  I wonder if my dr entities would show up in my sleep.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: tree frog] * 2
    #28570209 - 12/05/23 04:52 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Curious entity experience...

One day sat on my couch in my lounge room I punched a couple of big cones of changa and instead of closing my eyes and going with it I forced my eyes to remain open.
Suddenly there were these pens in the corners of the room with these odd creatures in them all moving about. It's was very odd that the break through had appeared in my world rather than me going there. I look to my right and in the air is a black hole, it is a sentient entity. I start talking psychically with it about things and we get on the subject of things we like to eat. Running through different things fish comes up. I tell it I like to eat fish, that it's okay to eat fish, just not my fish. (I used to keep tropical fish)
A huge blue crystalline fish appears in the air and swims up and around me over towards my fish tank. As I spin my head back the other side to watch it I fall into the void and the scene ends.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Northerner]
    #28570217 - 12/05/23 04:58 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

marvellous tale, thanks, very swish


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28570407 - 12/05/23 06:53 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Putting aside the question of entities and whether they are independent/sentient/etc or just a thought we have in our own mind... what is a "thought" and what is "mind"?

These seem to be pertinent questions. All too often one hears rebuttals to mind-blowing experiences such as "it's just your imagination" as though the imagination were a trivial, unreal thing of no consequence or importance in the Big Boy World of adults who know better. But very few people ask what it is in the first place.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28570459 - 12/05/23 07:23 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

the imagination is precious - it is what makes us special;
and we are not the only animals who have it, by far.

I think it is amazing, and closer to not being a mystery than most people think.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28570509 - 12/05/23 07:47 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

a-MAZE-ing? :smile:


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Northerner]
    #28570578 - 12/05/23 08:09 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

This reminds me some of my first Rue + Vaped DMT experience.

Kept my eyes open (I do this about 50/50 with DMT).  Saw a huge web of life connecting everything in the room to it, and I knew it was the Great Mother.  She told me it's okay to be skeptical.  That I'm her skeptical little scientist.

Anyway yeah, I have seen DMT elves.  Eyes open.  Living fractals within fractals within fractals making up everything.  Singing everything into existence.

On Ayahuasca I came to the conclusion that the reason everything looks alive like this on DMT is because it actually is.  Everything we see is alive.  Sober or on DMT.  It's always this way.  The view that what we look at isn't alive is the illusion.

But I'm going to turn this into a riddle.  Why is everything I see on DMT (and everyday) in fact alive?


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: tree frog]
    #28570699 - 12/05/23 09:32 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

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But I'm going to turn this into a riddle.  Why is everything I see on DMT (and everyday) in fact alive?




Because everything is mostly empty space

Unless this riddle is actually a koan and in that case
Nothing


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