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Anonymous #1

Air Mailing a Puppy
    #28510386 - 10/19/23 10:44 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Now, I am wondering what is the cost, if anyone here has ever moved overseas with an animal or imported one.

When I first starting researching this, it was controversial, because the animal is supposed to experience extreme conditions on the tarmac and in the luggage of the airplane.

(If you're a smuggler.)

Except, when you formally report what you are mailing, the captain is supposed to read about live animals in a bill of lading on his Android tablet, then pressurizes and temperature controls the forward cargo hold.

It is preferable for the airline not to mix animals (water, food, and waste) with the other baggage, for the safety of the baggage, too.

Some services provide a caretaker to ride along with full grown horses in a flying stable!

But, has anyone ever flown a dog, not riding with you in the cabin?

~ Thanks for reading.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28543636 - 11/15/23 05:42 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Years ago I took 2 dogs with me from one continent to another on a plane. They got stowed somewhere in their crates on the plane, but not just chucked in baggage afaik. It was a little expensive, but this was 25 years ago now so I have no idea what is involved these days in terms of cost.
They were fine, no problems. Didn't come out at the other end as icy dogsicles. Had to do 4 weeks quarantine that must have sucked really badly for them though.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #28544099 - 11/15/23 02:27 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

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Had to do 4 weeks quarantine that must have sucked really badly for them though.




A neighbor reported a found dog, out of courtesy to it's owners.

It went into quarantine, healthy, became ill, and died.

You've mentioned something important, that I have to learn about the shipping services.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28544103 - 11/15/23 02:32 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Reading about crap like this kind of makes you not feel bad for dog attack and wolf attack based on this one a vicious canine just rip someone to pieces and it usually seems so cruel like how could the nature of this dog want to attack someone and just kill them or basically kill them just because they can?

Then you read about shit like this were you stuff a dog in a box and I might not be able to breathe it might come out Frozen I might run out of food and water and all the sudden you don't feel so bad for the dog attack victims anymore


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Anonymous #1

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28544110 - 11/15/23 02:37 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

You would want to the more humane kind of person to be shipping your animal and writing the laws, if any.

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when you formally report what you are mailing, the captain is supposed to read about live animals in a bill of lading on his Android tablet, then pressurizes and temperature controls the forward cargo hold.




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Anonymous #2

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28544131 - 11/15/23 02:51 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Had to do 4 weeks quarantine that must have sucked really badly for them though.




A neighbor reported a found dog, out of courtesy to it's owners.

It went into quarantine, healthy, became ill, and died.

You've mentioned something important, that I have to learn about the shipping services.



It's a pretty broken quarantine if there are diseases being spread around inside, that's certainly not how it's supposed to work. I can't imagine a facility like that not getting shut down for gross negligence. Biosecurity laws tend to be very strict.

Why was a found dog put into quarantine though? That doesn't make any sense.

@Anonymous #3... you high bro?  :lol:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #28544141 - 11/15/23 03:04 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

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Why was a found dog put into quarantine though? That doesn't make any sense.




When I say "found", I mean that a stranger's dog was taken out of rushhour traffic on my street. It was not reunited with it's original owners.

There are local Facebook pages, where people post pics of strays and try to find their owners.

What if you want to check for a tracking chip?

Once it loses it's collar and tags, the only way you can tell whether that dog is registered is to hand it over to the authorities. It's gonna get institutionalized, and you'll have to pay hundreds of dollars for unsolicited services, here.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #28545239 - 11/16/23 12:22 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Had to do 4 weeks quarantine that must have sucked really badly for them though.




A neighbor reported a found dog, out of courtesy to it's owners.

It went into quarantine, healthy, became ill, and died.

You've mentioned something important, that I have to learn about the shipping services.



It's a pretty broken quarantine if there are diseases being spread around inside, that's certainly not how it's supposed to work. I can't imagine a facility like that not getting shut down for gross negligence. Biosecurity laws tend to be very strict.

Why was a found dog put into quarantine though? That doesn't make any sense.

@Anonymous #3... you high bro?  :lol:




Are you high? Who the hell ships a dog in a crate?

You guys should get reported to the police if you believe in that crap.

I'm probably the only person here not blasted on shrooms


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Anonymous #2

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28545372 - 11/16/23 02:51 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

How do you think animals are transported over distances? Maybe a long line of carers with nice fluffy gloves that run a relay? When moving animals internationally they just lock them all in the cockpit with the pilots so they don't wander around the cabin and be hard to catch later?  :lol:


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Anonymous #3

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #28545548 - 11/16/23 05:38 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Well just make sure they can breathe and don't freeze is all I guess


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Anonymous #2

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28545587 - 11/16/23 06:28 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Yeah for sure, transporting animals long distances just to make them dead is frowned upon. If an animal is valuable enough to transport people like them to arrive alive and unharmed.

I don't know if you've ever owned animals, though many animal owners have a carrier crate just for taking their animals to the vet. It's unsafe to have them wandering around in a moving vehicle.

A little google-fu will show you what I'm talking about.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28545593 - 11/16/23 06:35 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

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Are you high? Who the hell ships a dog in a crate?





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Some services provide a caretaker to ride along with full grown horses in a flying stable!




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Anonymous #2

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28545698 - 11/16/23 07:50 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Sounds totally legit. You don't want your expensive fancy horse injuring itself because it freaks out at 20,000ft. Imagine doing that as a job though, air hostess for horses.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #28545832 - 11/16/23 09:30 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Yeah for sure, transporting animals long distances just to make them dead is frowned upon. If an animal is valuable enough to transport people like them to arrive alive and unharmed.

I don't know if you've ever owned animals, though many animal owners have a carrier crate just for taking their animals to the vet. It's unsafe to have them wandering around in a moving vehicle.

A little google-fu will show you what I'm talking about.




You mean where you have the animal in sight the whole time?

Somehow that's even kind of the same thing?

Under the seat is one thing. With the rest of the baggage is something totally different.

Now come on you know we can handle this like some gentlemen


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Anonymous #4

Re: Air Mailing a Puppy [Re: Anonymous #3] * 1
    #28545881 - 11/16/23 10:20 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

My 2 cents.


I have had dogs flown in the under carriage of the plane as adult animals and had mixed results. Mostly they are terrified and have shit and piss on them. I have also had animals flown in the cabin with me or someone else and turned out just fine.


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