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Advice on harvesting my shrooms and second flush, exciting times!
#28507978 - 10/17/23 10:57 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Hi everyone.
Im not quite ready for harvest yet but things are moving pretty quickly now so wanted to get some more advice at the point im at.
Please take a look at my pics and tell me what you think, it feels good to me?
I can see some mature shroomes with small pins attached i assume i wait for the small ones to catch up as some are attached to the mature ones and i cannot see how i would remove the larger ones from the base without those coming too? Or do i cut them away leaving the small ones and a stump?
How does my sub look, when would you advise, if at all, any misting?
How mature can i leave the shrooms before i harvest, i hear when the vale breaks i should cut them with a scalpal and some people say let them mature fully and open right out...
All your advise and wisdom is greatly appreciated guys. Thanks for all the support so far i couldnt have got this far without this community and the TC's taking the time to school me, True legends...
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28508004 - 10/17/23 11:09 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Nice pinset. You obviously did something right. Good job.
When you harvest is really up to you and what you want. Need to make spore prints? Wait for the caps to open wide and you see some spores drop.
Want bag appeal? Cut them out when the veil breaks, but the caps are still small. Looks good and they fit in the dehydrator better.
Those still have a little bit of time, but I bet some of those small pins donβt ever mature. I usually have a bunch of small aborts at the bottoms of my harvest when I have a good pinset like that.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: RoscoeReturns]
#28508018 - 10/17/23 11:22 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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RoscoeReturns said: Nice pinset. You obviously did something right. Good job.
Mate! You have made me feel a little emotional with that comment, that really means alot coming from and experienced member! 
Its all down to this community, ive not done my tub holes in line with current guidlines as i used outdated info unknowingly for that, but its a work in progress and my first one, so ill take that.
I guess i just want them to be as good as they can be in terms of quality of fruit and yeild.
So i guess theres no exact science at this point then? I just feel i dont want to waste smaller pins when cutting away the big ones if thats at all possible? Would you just take the larger ones off and take the small ones or is it advisable to leave a bit of stump for them to grow further, or do they not get any bigger leaving them like that?
And how do i know when i need to mist the tub during this phase?

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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28508024 - 10/17/23 11:35 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Really nice-looking tray! When I harvest my shroomies, I apply a slight bit of side pressure and twist simultaneously, and the fruit will come out really nice. Not only do you get the whole fruit but it also does not leave a stump on your sub that can attract bacteria. Sometimes also when you have a few grouped together, removing the biggest one as I described, usually just takes out the big guy. Congrats on the grow!
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28508045 - 10/17/23 11:57 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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It this point you donβt really need to do anything but wait, harvest, then get ready for flush 2.
I know you want to let every single pin reach itβs potential, but letting the flush linger on like that will take a while. It also doesnβt allow the second flush to come in all at once, but instead youβll just have a few more mushrooms each day for a while. Not very efficient.
If it were me, i would wait until the largest are just dropping spores, and then harvest everything. Use a knife or scissors and cut everything just above the surface of the substrate. You should get a few caps for printing, a bunch of nice sized fruit to dry and store, and also a bunch of smaller stuff. Those small ones still keep nice. Then youβll have a nice clean surface to hydrate and wait for second flush.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: RoscoeReturns]
#28508171 - 10/17/23 01:34 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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meta_mmxxii said: Really nice-looking tray! When I harvest my shroomies, I apply a slight bit of side pressure and twist simultaneously, and the fruit will come out really nice. Not only do you get the whole fruit but it also does not leave a stump on your sub that can attract bacteria. Sometimes also when you have a few grouped together, removing the biggest one as I described, usually just takes out the big guy. Congrats on the grow!
Thanks bro! Sound advice, it seems people use both methods, seems like pros and cons both ways, so do you pluck the big ones out and try and let the smaller ones go a bit longer and if so how long would u wait thus not to effect the second flush?
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RoscoeReturns said: It this point you donβt really need to do anything but wait, harvest, then get ready for flush 2.
I know you want to let every single pin reach itβs potential, but letting the flush linger on like that will take a while. It also doesnβt allow the second flush to come in all at once, but instead youβll just have a few more mushrooms each day for a while. Not very efficient.
If it were me, i would wait until the largest are just dropping spores, and then harvest everything. Use a knife or scissors and cut everything just above the surface of the substrate. You should get a few caps for printing, a bunch of nice sized fruit to dry and store, and also a bunch of smaller stuff. Those small ones still keep nice. Then youβll have a nice clean surface to hydrate and wait for second flush.
So u would take all down at once by cutting? At what point would u harvest, when the first one meets maturity? How long can you leave them before harvest? For example is it when the cap is fully splayed out? Horizontal?

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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28508193 - 10/17/23 01:52 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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You CAN wait until they curl up and everything is black with spore. I wouldnβt wait quite that long, but you could. Mush arenβt like total shit until the veil breaks, then awesome for two days, then rotting goo the next day. They are what they are for quite some time. Experiment. Just wait and see how this flush develops then youβll know what to expect for next time.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: RoscoeReturns]
#28508199 - 10/17/23 01:57 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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I have nothing to add to what roscoe said.
This looks like a great flush sir. I personally twist and pull, never cut. Please let me know if theres anything else I can do.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
#28508923 - 10/18/23 01:16 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Thanks gents sound advice! Ive added another pic, ive got up this morning and i have a few veils broken, ive had to go to work so i cannot harvest till i get home in around 8 hours, i assume another 8 hours from this point will not be too long?
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This looks like a great flush sir. I personally twist and pull, never cut. Please let me know if theres anything else I can do.
Thanks for your continued support bro! Glad you like it, So twist and pull it is. Whats the primary reason one does not cut? When twist and pulling do i take each shroom or the whole cluster? And when harvesting everything does that include every single pin? Or do i leave the smallest pins? Is there an advised size that denotes the first flush? Or is everything thats showing denote the first flush must everything be removed for the second? Then am i misting after harvest?
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Edit! This is them now 10hrs after the last one, so guys just take the lot even the smaller ones on the sides etc?  
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28509339 - 10/18/23 11:22 AM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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I don't like the look of stumps i guess. Thats about it. I'll harvest and then wipe the sub clean of aborts to have a fresh surface to start again.
Thats if i even second flush. I live for canopies so I often don't bother.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
#28509408 - 10/18/23 12:07 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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BeefSupremeJr said: I don't like the look of stumps i guess. Thats about it. I'll harvest and then wipe the sub clean of aborts to have a fresh surface to start again.
Thats if i even second flush. I live for canopies so I often don't bother.
Oh so theres no definitive convention in 2023 for this? Im harvesting now, ive actually cut and left stumps on a patch in the middle just for experimental purposes, i feel more comfortable with push twist pull to be fair, it just feels better to me aswel those stumps look like they could rot if left, is that the case?, is it just asthetics for you?
When twisting it takes the top few mm of sub along with the myc carpet on the surface, is this acceptable? Is the aborts all the tiny pin shrooms?
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28509416 - 10/18/23 12:12 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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Yes some strains take more sub with it then others. We call it "politeness" in harvesting. I had some tidal wave that were so rude when harvesting i never grew them again.
fp+ is so polite they take nothing with them. They almost fall right off the sub and I love that.
Yours are standard, just do your best. You can clean them with your fingers or cut the base with a knife.
Fahtster has a tek for cleaning the coir off after you dry them. Its basically shaking the bag and letting all the coir fall to the bottom once its dry.
Whatevers clever.
let us know how your experiment turns out as I will be adding a harvesting and drying section to the hitchhikers guide at some point in the near future.
Great job by the way, let me know how they work.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28509423 - 10/18/23 12:15 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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magicmick said: And when harvesting everything does that include every single pin? Or do i leave the smallest pins? Is there an advised size that denotes the first flush? Or is everything thats showing denote the first flush must everything be removed for the second? Then am i misting after harvest?
The term "flush" is an approximate term, at least after the first flush. You can get a steady stream of a few shrooms after that. They don't usually grow all perfectly at the same time like the first flush. At least that's been my experience thus far.
So the short answer is that everything you have now is your first flush. You can harvest most and leave the small ones to get bigger if you want. Once you pick the last ones, you can rehydrate and wait for a second flush.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: Kinoko314]
#28509449 - 10/18/23 12:35 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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BeefSupremeJr said: Yes some strains take more sub with it then others. We call it "politeness" in harvesting. I had some tidal wave that were so rude when harvesting i never grew them again.
fp+ is so polite they take nothing with them. They almost fall right off the sub and I love that.
Yours are standard, just do your best. You can clean them with your fingers or cut the base with a knife.
Fahtster has a tek for cleaning the coir off after you dry them. Its basically shaking the bag and letting all the coir fall to the bottom once its dry.
Whatevers clever.
let us know how your experiment turns out as I will be adding a harvesting and drying section to the hitchhikers guide at some point in the near future.
Great job by the way, let me know how they work.
Thats a cool term for describing that, i like that lol, i have a genius way ive worked out how to deal with the shite on the bottom with minimal effort while having a cup of tea, its called "get the wife to do it" tek, works a treat mate!
So from what you see my sub is ok?
When u say clean the sub do you mean all of those little pins? Are they worth keeping and drying for the jar? Or do i just bin them?
Thanks mate, feel so chuffed with it, i felt i made a bit of a hash of it, i think ive bruised them more than id like...
Of course id be more than happy to help in any way i can with the guide, absolutly my pleasure! I will keep this thread updated, see live pictures below whats your weight estimate on that first flush?   
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: Kinoko314]
#28509453 - 10/18/23 12:39 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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magicmick said: And when harvesting everything does that include every single pin? Or do i leave the smallest pins? Is there an advised size that denotes the first flush? Or is everything thats showing denote the first flush must everything be removed for the second? Then am i misting after harvest?
The term "flush" is an approximate term, at least after the first flush. You can get a steady stream of a few shrooms after that. They don't usually grow all perfectly at the same time like the first flush. At least that's been my experience thus far.
So the short answer is that everything you have now is your first flush. You can harvest most and leave the small ones to get bigger if you want. Once you pick the last ones, you can rehydrate and wait for a second flush.
Roger that my friend, thanks for the advice, the small ones just feel/felt so disturbed will they bite back into the sub and grow then? I just found it so hard to pluck the big ones without disturbing them...
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28509461 - 10/18/23 12:46 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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Have you got any advice gentlemen, for the dehydrator? I only have a small ninja foodi so ill have do batches, what setting on the dehydrator and roughly how long am i looking?
How should i store the others while there waiting for there turn to get dry?
 
Edit! Ok thats not going to work... my dehydrator is waayyy to small for this job, i have a decent neff circotherm oven that can go as low as 40c, i think this will work better, what temp am i going for if i was to do in the oven, in the instructioms it states use the "circotherm" setting for dehydration, im about to take the plunge please let me know what u all think??
Should i start a new thread for this guys?
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28509495 - 10/18/23 01:12 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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The Ninja Foodi can dehydrate pretty quick, and pretty hot. If you fill it up it'll probably take 12-15 hours. I usually start it at 165 and crank it up after a few hours. It seems like it shits out more spores at the high temps. I don't know, I'm trying to get that figured out. It wouldn't be a problem if I harvested before the veil broke, but I usually let the caps open.
Store the rest in the fridge, ideally in a paper bag.
Other people will probably tell you that you need to dehydrate for 24 hours, but those people don't own a Ninja Foodi.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: Kinoko314]
#28509557 - 10/18/23 02:02 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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Kinoko314 said: The Ninja Foodi can dehydrate pretty quick, and pretty hot. If you fill it up it'll probably take 12-15 hours. I usually start it at 165 and crank it up after a few hours. It seems like it shits out more spores at the high temps. I don't know, I'm trying to get that figured out. It wouldn't be a problem if I harvested before the veil broke, but I usually let the caps open.
Store the rest in the fridge, ideally in a paper bag.
Other people will probably tell you that you need to dehydrate for 24 hours, but those people don't own a Ninja Foodi.
Roger that bro, however i changed the plan as per the edit on my last post, started putting them in the rack and it became quickly apparent i have fuck all room in the ninja i would need to do alot of runs so decided to bang in the oven at 55c, didnt plan for that kind of amount on my first flush, a good learning curve to have tho lol.
Am i looking at the same temp in an fan oven? 160f is around 70c, should i crank it up?
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28509642 - 10/18/23 03:24 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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Well, the Ninja goes up to 195F, and I wouldn't be comfortable going higher than that anyway. I don't know how even the heat will be in the oven, so it may be best to stick to 160F/70C, but don't go above 90C.
That's my best suggestion while not knowing the quirks of your oven.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28509689 - 10/18/23 04:29 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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BeefSupremeJr said: Yes some strains take more sub with it then others. We call it "politeness" in harvesting. I had some tidal wave that were so rude when harvesting i never grew them again.
fp+ is so polite they take nothing with them. They almost fall right off the sub and I love that.
Yours are standard, just do your best. You can clean them with your fingers or cut the base with a knife.
Fahtster has a tek for cleaning the coir off after you dry them. Its basically shaking the bag and letting all the coir fall to the bottom once its dry.
Whatevers clever.
let us know how your experiment turns out as I will be adding a harvesting and drying section to the hitchhikers guide at some point in the near future.
Great job by the way, let me know how they work.
Thats a cool term for describing that, i like that lol, i have a genius way ive worked out how to deal with the shite on the bottom with minimal effort while having a cup of tea, its called "get the wife to do it" tek, works a treat mate!
So from what you see my sub is ok?
When u say clean the sub do you mean all of those little pins? Are they worth keeping and drying for the jar? Or do i just bin them?
Thanks mate, feel so chuffed with it, i felt i made a bit of a hash of it, i think ive bruised them more than id like...
Of course id be more than happy to help in any way i can with the guide, absolutly my pleasure! I will keep this thread updated, see live pictures below whats your weight estimate on that first flush?   

That is awesome bro! "Get the wife to do it" tek, I love it!
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: meta_mmxxii]
#28509704 - 10/18/23 04:45 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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That's a wholesome flush for a first time, you're definitely doing it right. Congrats!
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magicmick said: Oh so theres no definitive convention in 2023 for this? When twisting it takes the top few mm of sub along with the myc carpet on the surface, is this acceptable? Is the aborts all the tiny pin shrooms?
In my experience twisting and pulling has been better simply because I might just be bad at cutting them and the stumps seem to block out further pinning, but I think you can do either depending on how stubborn they are. I also don't like how the stumps look either.
It's fine to pull a bit of substrate with them as you pull them. Just make sure you don't take out entire carrots of sub
Aborts are usually smaller pins that turn out dark brown/black and return to the mycelium. You can spot them early when you see the cap start to darken and IME they tend to get a bit fuzzy all over as if morphing back to myc. No big deal about them but if you see them you can pick them up and they're usually still potent.
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magicmick said: Am i looking at the same temp in an fan oven? 160f is around 70c, should i crank it up?
Get a cheap/used dehydrator (another one I guess lmao), you can usually find some around for 15-30 bucks. The kind that stacks vertically, you can also find some additional plates for basically nothing around if you know where to look, or downright just mod some up.
I dry mine at 70Β°C but as mentioned before up to 90Β°C is fine. Lower temps will just take longer. Also ovens will create hot spots and they might make them look burned and ugly in places.
If your oven has a fan in the back make sure it's running at all times (and I think people usually leave the oven door open to circulate more air but I don't know about that).
The key in drying them efficiently is to have a lot of air circulating over them. You can dry them without heat with just a fan as well but it's going to take a long time. I think the consensus is that the faster you can dry them, the less potency you're potentially losing, but I don't think it makes a big difference. If you want to hold onto them because you can't immediately dry, you can put them in a paper bag or wrap them loosely in dry tissues and shove them into your fridge for about 3-4 days max.
Get them cracker dry (stem splits when you try to bend them), and ideally, get some food grade silica gel packets (you can find them dirt cheap) to throw in your storage especially if you plan on keeping them in there for a longer time. Roughly 1g per litre your container can hold is a good measure. Also you don't need a lot of them, you can re-dry them in a dehydrator for re-use later.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: MrJong]
#28509717 - 10/18/23 04:57 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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i have no advice to add, just want to add that i'm jealous of your first flush
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I would definitely suggest a dehydrator over oven.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28510205 - 10/19/23 04:13 AM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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magicmick said: Oh so theres no definitive convention in 2023 for this? Im harvesting now, ive actually cut and left stumps on a patch in the middle just for experimental purposes, i feel more comfortable with push twist pull to be fair, it just feels better to me aswel those stumps look like they could rot if left, is that the case?
I'd listen to RR. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16389905#16389905
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#28510360 - 10/19/23 10:09 AM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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Ok i was gonna run through the messages and quote and answer each of you guys but its too much for my little brain so just to catch up...
Thanks you all for the advice provided, this community rocks, and thanks for the love regarding my first grow, i gotta say im very smitten with it right now! Im glad you like my tek meta, all you need is a wife and a knife, doesnt even have to be your own one mate lol.
As you guys mentioned and i found out the oven isnt the best, it worked ok in the end but first i left the door shut for 30mins before reading i should leave the door open, at that point of proping it open they had gone pretty blue and are now quite dark all over, needless to say ive got my self a hydrator coming from amazon 2maro, i cant have that kind of heart ache again...
Would you legends kindly take a look at my dried harvest pic below and tell me if they look ok, they are cracker dry and smell good, ive had some that i was microdosing with from a local source and they smell the same as those no icky mould smells or anything, i just feel concerned at how dark blue they are, valuable lesson learnt right there. Let me know what you think i got 5 ounces of cracker dry shrooms, is that a good benchmark for a first flush?
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Thanks you all for the advice provided, this community rocks, and thanks for the love regarding my first grow, i gotta say im very smitten with it right now! Im glad you like my tek meta, all you need is a wife and a knife, doesnt even have to be your own one mate lol.
As you guys mentioned and i found out the oven isnt the best, it worked ok in the end but first i left the door shut for 30mins before reading i should leave the door open, at that point of proping it open they had gone pretty blue and are now quite dark all over, needless to say ive got my self a hydrator coming from amazon 2maro, i cant have that kind of heart ache again...
Would you legends kindly take a look at my dried harvest pic below and tell me if they look ok, they are cracker dry and smell good, ive had some that i was microdosing with from a local source and they smell the same as those no icky mould smells or anything, i just feel concerned at how dark blue they are, valuable lesson learnt right there. Let me know what you think i got 5 ounces of cracker dry shrooms, is that a good benchmark for a first flush?
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: meta_mmxxii]
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I love this guy,"wife and a knife", your killing me man lmfao.
Lol lol i think we got something going here with this tek bro, i think it could catch on, may go and write up a how to guide for the community see if it catches on...
What do you think about the dried product pics my freind, they have gone really dark blue, are they ok? Ive got a dehydrator now, does the dehydrator help preserve the original colours? I got some from a plug for mocrodosing previously and they where so perfectly dried and preserved, how do i get them like that, see my pic below
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I think your oven shrooms look fine. Your mushrooms keep dropping spores as they're drying, and they can stick to the stipes. The other ones you have look like albinos. They won't drop spores, and even if they do, they're clear.
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Kinoko314 said: I think your oven shrooms look fine. Your mushrooms keep dropping spores as they're drying, and they can stick to the stipes. The other ones you have look like albinos. They won't drop spores, and even if they do, they're clear.
Ahh ok thats interesting, just shows how little i know, i thought it was somthing to do with drying method, thanks for advising bro 
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Im now getting ready for my second flush, ive given the sub a good mist, in the picture below you can see the stumps from some i cut, ive done this for research purposes as i prefer twist and pull but wanted to see what happens to those stumps, the question i have is i have lots of tiny pins, are these the second flush or should i have removed these as aborts? Some are a little loose in the sub, ive tried to remove all the loose and black ones. The small shrooms on the left are what i left from first flush as they where so small, they have grown a little more but things feel pretty still in there.
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Hi everyone...
Can anyone help me please?
Please take a look at my pic of my substrate now, its starting to get fuzzy, im still confused as to what i should "clean" or keep for second flush, as previously posted ive removed the loose and blackend aborts (or so i believe) but im still not completly sure im doing things right, see pics below i have a couple of areas that are very white fluffy, is this mould? Any advice for me at this point would be very welcome, also how long before the second flush starts?
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Thats trich at the bottom and bottom right side of the tub - harvest what you can asap, but that tub is quickly on it's way to the compost pile.
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PBJ710 said: Thats trich at the bottom and bottom right side of the tub - harvest what you can asap, but that tub is quickly on it's way to the compost pile.
Thanks for advising bro, theres nothing really to harvest anyway... didnt think that looked good, as times passing its looking a little green and spreading, so no second flush for me, and after such a decent first flush...
So whats the likley cause of that and how should i look to avoid it in future? Is trich mold?
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#28512889 - 10/21/23 11:27 AM (3 months, 5 days ago) |
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It really comes down to clean spawn.
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Roger that sir! I will have to master agar and stop injecting spores direct to grain for that i assume? 
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Yeah, pretty much. Unless you can make your own clean spore syringes, verified on agar.
You're better off just getting a clean culture on agar ime.
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Even just a little bit of bacteria will greatly reduce the life expectency of a tub. Clean cultures from agar FTW.
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Kinoko314 said: Yeah, pretty much. Unless you can make your own clean spore syringes, verified on agar.
You're better off just getting a clean culture on agar ime.
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Thanks for advising, i will get on with learning the process and giving it ago, ive got my next 2 grows of grain bags colonising so in the meantime i can work it out... You say about making my own clean spawn, so spawn isnt created equal? So i could also seek out a more reputable spawn supplier and potentially get a better result? Atm i get "free gifts" in the form of spore syringes when buying my grain and bulk from a local company, i just use these freebees but there is another company that i could use that are dedicated to just syringes im wondering if there product may be better?
Just to be sure gents, nothing i can do with it? Can i dig out the sub with it on, try and nick a few more shrooms from this tub? or shall i just bin it?
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Spawn is colonized grain. The fancy way of saying "clean" is "axenic". An axenic culture has no other organisms riding along.
Mold and yeast are pretty obvious, but bacteria is sneaky. It takes some practice to interpret growth characteristics of mycelium as presence of bacteria. As your spawn gets cleaner over time, your results will get better.
If your tub has pins currently growing then you could wait for them to mature, but otherwise I would just toss it. You could try to dig it out, but it's a messier process than you might think, and it's hard to know how far through the substrate it reaches. It's your call, but probably not worth it.
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Kinoko314 said: Spawn is colonized grain. The fancy way of saying "clean" is "axenic". An axenic culture has no other organisms riding along.
Mold and yeast are pretty obvious, but bacteria is sneaky. It takes some practice to interpret growth characteristics of mycelium as presence of bacteria. As your spawn gets cleaner over time, your results will get better.
If your tub has pins currently growing then you could wait for them to mature, but otherwise I would just toss it. You could try to dig it out, but it's a messier process than you might think, and it's hard to know how far through the substrate it reaches. It's your call, but probably not worth it.
Ok mate thats food for thought, i guess i still have alot to learn, ill get to it! I was mixing up spores with spawn lol, Ive acctually dug out that peice of sub as i have time, my other bags are not colonised fully yet so ill see how it goes over the next week with the bad bit removed, more for experimental purposes at this stage got nothing to loose at this point so might aswel see what happens... im off to read the agar tek and get going on that, thanks for advising bro, mush love  
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I love this guy,"wife and a knife", your killing me man lmfao.
Lol lol i think we got something going here with this tek bro, i think it could catch on, may go and write up a how to guide for the community see if it catches on...
What do you think about the dried product pics my freind, they have gone really dark blue, are they ok? Ive got a dehydrator now, does the dehydrator help preserve the original colours? I got some from a plug for mocrodosing previously and they where so perfectly dried and preserved, how do i get them like that, see my pic below
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I see one MAJOR flaw in this tek, it requires a wife. lol</font> Blue is good! That is psilocybin oxidating form oxygen. They say, not sure if it is all that true, but they say the bluer it is the more potent they are. But yeah, they are good.
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I see one MAJOR flaw in this tek, it requires a wife.
As i mentioned before bro... and i quote:
"all you need is a wife and a knife, doesnt even have to be your own one mate lol."
So any wife will do they are everywhere, borrow a freinds! shit if your in my town you can borrow mine π€£ π€£
Blue is good! That is psilocybin oxidating form oxygen. They say, not sure if it is all that true, but they say the bluer it is the more potent they are. But yeah, they are good.</font>
So since posting this ive taken a proper dose as i wanted to check my produce, till now ive only taken microdoses and felt effects, once i did a slightly to high dose when finding my sweet spot and had a mild trip at work so i know cubs work for me, however i took 1.5 g today felt nothing so took another 1.5g and after a total of 90mins took anoth 1g and i felt nothing at all! Im gutted and confused, started another thread and ive been advised the same, they guys said they look very potant with the level of blueing and maybe its me, im so confused that i didnt even feel a thing, im not sure if i killed the trip from expectation or its dud genetics...
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That's the thing about mushies, especially working with MSS. Could be genetics, could be your tolerance, could be a lot of things that others more knowledgeable could add a lot more to the conversation. The only way, from what I have read, to get a consistent product, you have to have isolated genetics to achieve this. It could also just have been your mindset when dosing the second time. I am not that experienced at trippin, so this is just my opinion from all that I have read. Don't give up, there is help on here for ya.
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Here is a dosage calculator I came across that may help you with your dosing. It is not an exact science kind of thing but gives you a pretty close result based on body weight. Hope I don't get in trouble for posting this link lol.
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Just found this writeup by Pastey, it may clear it up for you.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26878383
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meta_mmxxii said: That's the thing about mushies, especially working with MSS. Could be genetics, could be your tolerance, could be a lot of things that others more knowledgeable could add a lot more to the conversation. The only way, from what I have read, to get a consistent product, you have to have isolated genetics to achieve this. It could also just have been your mindset when dosing the second time. I am not that experienced at trippin, so this is just my opinion from all that I have read. Don't give up, there is help on here for ya.
Yeah im learning alot from everyone im realising its not as simple as it seems, ive got another thread about the issue, and the top dog asante has jumped on just waiting for his reply to enlighten me, maybe i killed it from expectation, he said hes never seen shrooms that blue that wernt potent enough to trip, i would have thought id feel somthing after 4g, its very strange my friend, so why you dont have experience tripping? Do you just microdose? Or just grow?
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https://gwellamushrooms.com/pages/mushroom-dosage-calculator
Thanks mate ill take a look...
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26878383
Im on it now sir thanks, everything ive seen from this guy so far is sound advice.
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I have taken mushrooms 1 time in my life, and I am not in an environment that I think would be safe. I own some handguns and a couple of rifles. I live alone and therefore I have no care giver to babysit while I visit Mars. I enjoy the art and have learned how important and how amazing mushrooms are, not just actives, but all mushrooms. I planned on MD though eventually, but I want to gain as much knowledge as possible about every aspect of it from as many different resources I can find, before I put it into my body. I am getting up there and my health is not that great. I had to retire from my very high paying job due to my health deteriorating. I have severe COPD, so I am very particular what I put into my body. I have been searching and searching for information on maybe mushrooms may help my health, as they are a magical living and breathing organism. But so far have found no information. But the biggest reason I grow is it is so fascinating, and rewarding that you created something from just a tiny piece of a mushroom. That's why I consider mush cult an art form.
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Mushrooms don't work very well when you take a little, and a little more, and a little more. You just gotta take that leap and eat it all at once. Tolerance is an issue for most people. Some can take shrooms day after day and they say they can still trip fine, but most people see very diminished results if they try to trip that often. It's good to give it a week between trips. 2 weeks is probably the longest it takes to fully lose all tolerance.
I don't know what your whole dosing schedule was, so hard to say if this was your issue.
Initially I started this hobby just for the end product. Now I have way more than I need, but I don't want to stop. I want to grow more varieties, more species, more everything! It's been fun, especially after I stopped needing to stress over whether I'm producing enough. It's been about a year now, and it's been a journey.
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meta_mmxxii said: I have taken mushrooms 1 time in my life, and I am not in an environment that I think would be safe. I own some handguns and a couple of rifles. I live alone and therefore I have no care giver to babysit while I visit Mars. I enjoy the art and have learned how important and how amazing mushrooms are, not just actives, but all mushrooms. I planned on MD though eventually, but I want to gain as much knowledge as possible about every aspect of it from as many different resources I can find, before I put it into my body. I am getting up there and my health is not that great. I had to retire from my very high paying job due to my health deteriorating. I have severe COPD, so I am very particular what I put into my body. I have been searching and searching for information on maybe mushrooms may help my health, as they are a magical living and breathing organism. But so far have found no information. But the biggest reason I grow is it is so fascinating, and rewarding that you created something from just a tiny piece of a mushroom. That's why I consider mush cult an art form.
Wow thats a real interesting perspective, and i hear you sir, i feel the same about them, truly magical, i suffer from PTSD and have extreme anxiety, MD ing cleared that symptom up very quickly and started repairing the broken connections, i find how they 'fix' the mind fascinating, ive also learnt for a more comprehensive healing process to happen i need a full dose but due to dependants those oportunities are few and far between... today i had a chance and didnt take off... gutted lol... im sorry to hear about your illness my dad also has the same condition, take a look at NAC and lungwort, but they need to be clean and pure to work, my dads copd has slowed since he started taking them 2 together, and its natural, phama drugs keep us sick imo, i heard turkey tail shrooms can help many ailments aswel, 
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I don't know what your whole dosing schedule was, so hard to say if this was your issue.
Initially I started this hobby just for the end product. Now I have way more than I need, but I don't want to stop. I want to grow more varieties, more species, more everything! It's been fun, especially after I stopped needing to stress over whether I'm producing enough. It's been about a year now, and it's been a journey.
I know what you mean its so exciting tending to them and they are truly magical when they flush, if it makes you happy why not just keep going my friend π€£
Do you think my microdosing could have a part to play in not feeling anything from this big dose? Im doing .2-.3 every third day, would this really have an impact? I litterally didnt feel a thing from 4g dried. I was gutted mate, im so perplexed, they must be dud genetics, im going to give some to a pal see what he says but im not holding out much hope, i will just rinse and repeat and hopfully ill get somthing that works next time, in the meantime i will do a proper dose using this microdose stock as its outsourced from before i started, if that works i know its my grow potency thats the problemπ€π»π
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Kinoko314 said: Mushrooms don't work very well when you take a little, and a little more, and a little more. You just gotta take that leap and eat it all at once. Tolerance is an issue for most people. Some can take shrooms day after day and they say they can still trip fine, but most people see very diminished results if they try to trip that often. It's good to give it a week between trips. 2 weeks is probably the longest it takes to fully lose all tolerance.
I don't know what your whole dosing schedule was, so hard to say if this was your issue.
Initially I started this hobby just for the end product. Now I have way more than I need, but I don't want to stop. I want to grow more varieties, more species, more everything! It's been fun, especially after I stopped needing to stress over whether I'm producing enough. It's been about a year now, and it's been a journey.
The time I did eat shrooms, they were wild Liberty Caps we found in a cow field, we made tea and after about an hour everyone was tripping except me, so I grab a shitload of the ones soaking in the water, I would say a handfull, and fuck, I blasted off lol. So I think it would depend on the person consuming them.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28514200 - 10/22/23 01:40 PM (3 months, 4 days ago) |
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meta_mmxxii said: I have taken mushrooms 1 time in my life, and I am not in an environment that I think would be safe. I own some handguns and a couple of rifles. I live alone and therefore I have no care giver to babysit while I visit Mars. I enjoy the art and have learned how important and how amazing mushrooms are, not just actives, but all mushrooms. I planned on MD though eventually, but I want to gain as much knowledge as possible about every aspect of it from as many different resources I can find, before I put it into my body. I am getting up there and my health is not that great. I had to retire from my very high paying job due to my health deteriorating. I have severe COPD, so I am very particular what I put into my body. I have been searching and searching for information on maybe mushrooms may help my health, as they are a magical living and breathing organism. But so far have found no information. But the biggest reason I grow is it is so fascinating, and rewarding that you created something from just a tiny piece of a mushroom. That's why I consider mush cult an art form.
Wow thats a real interesting perspective, and i hear you sir, i feel the same about them, truly magical, i suffer from PTSD and have extreme anxiety, MD ing cleared that symptom up very quickly and started repairing the broken connections, i find how they 'fix' the mind fascinating, ive also learnt for a more comprehensive healing process to happen i need a full dose but due to dependants those oportunities are few and far between... today i had a chance and didnt take off... gutted lol... im sorry to hear about your illness my dad also has the same condition, take a look at NAC and lungwort, but they need to be clean and pure to work, my dads copd has slowed since he started taking them 2 together, and its natural, phama drugs keep us sick imo, i heard turkey tail shrooms can help many ailments aswel, 
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Kinoko314 said: Mushrooms don't work very well when you take a little, and a little more, and a little more. You just gotta take that leap and eat it all at once. Tolerance is an issue for most people. Some can take shrooms day after day and they say they can still trip fine, but most people see very diminished results if they try to trip that often. It's good to give it a week between trips. 2 weeks is probably the longest it takes to fully lose all tolerance.
I don't know what your whole dosing schedule was, so hard to say if this was your issue.
Initially I started this hobby just for the end product. Now I have way more than I need, but I don't want to stop. I want to grow more varieties, more species, more everything! It's been fun, especially after I stopped needing to stress over whether I'm producing enough. It's been about a year now, and it's been a journey.
I know what you mean its so exciting tending to them and they are truly magical when they flush, if it makes you happy why not just keep going my friend π€£
Do you think my mocrodosing could have a part to play in not feeling anything from this big dose? Im doing .2-.3 every third day, would this really have an impact? I litterally didnt feel a thing from 4g dried. I was gutted mate, im so perplexed, they must be dud genetics, im going to give some to a pal see what he says but im not holding out much hope, i will just rinse and repeat and hopfully ill get somthing that works next time π€π»π
I didn't share that for empathy, but thank you I just was describing what got me into mush cult. I have been on a good maintenance program, and it is under control, I just had to make some big life changes because of it. Some good, some bad but it is manageable. Made some bad life choices in the past and is now catching up to this old fart lol It's all good.
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, exciting times! [Re: meta_mmxxii]
#28514271 - 10/22/23 02:18 PM (3 months, 4 days ago) |
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The time I did eat shrooms, they were wild Liberty Caps we found in a cow field, we made tea and after about an hour everyone was tripping except me, so I grab a shitload of the ones soaking in the water, I would say a handfull, and fuck, I blasted off lol. So I think it would depend on the person consuming them.
π€£π€£ it seems the dosage is very personal to each individual from what ive read on here, those are our native shrooms in the UK, never foraged them myself tho, what part of the world do you live mate?
I didn't share that for empathy, but thank you I just was describing what got me into mush cult. I have been on a good maintenance program, and it is under control, I just had to make some big life changes because of it. Some good, some bad but it is manageable. Made some bad life choices in the past and is now catching up to this old fart lol It's all good.
I know my friend but i cannot help being empathetic to your situation, i think we are all guilty of far from good choices in life, ive got a whole bunch of them also, we are only human after all, were all on a jouney!
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Re: Advice on harvesting my shrooms, and second flush, exciting times! [Re: magicmick]
#28516506 - 10/24/23 11:48 AM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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Hi everyone, hope you guys are all well!
So i wanted to keep the thread updated with my journey so far and advise you on what ive done, after the first flush i had trich, as im in no rush still waiting for my next batch of grains to fully colonise ive decided to cut out the infected substrate and keep it going for a possible second flush, ive cut away the affected area plus a large buffer zone around it.
From what i can see theres no more trich there, would you fantastic people take a look at my pic and tell me what you think and if there is any further concerns, at the top left are a couple of maturing pins and the sub is covered in little white balls, is this the new pins? The pins from the first flush and a couple of stumps are getting fuzzy but seem ok.
What ive learnt is i hate the fuzz and aborts and stumps left there so i will be fully cleaning the sub next time i run after my first flush.
Please school me guys, tell me what you think is going on...
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