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DERRAYLD
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
#28526163 - 11/02/23 03:59 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Why are you harvesting mushrooms with a mask on?
That's really not necessary. You're over thinking so much here.
You harvested prematurely based on the size seen here but it's not going to result in weak mushrooms. Also bruising happens and is not something to be worried about, just grab the fruit and rub the coco off.
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28526165 - 11/02/23 04:18 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: Why are you harvesting mushrooms with a mask on
I figured it was better to wear a mask since I’d be exposing sub from under the surface layer and didn’t know if it’d be good to be that close and breathing all over it… but if it’s not needed, good to know that I can skip it next time. Thank you for letting me know.
However, the mask did help to minimize some of the weird smell that I mentioned. Do you know why that smell was present? Sounds dumb as shit,
 but I’m considered a “super smeller” and it’s a blessing and a curse to constantly be able to smell things that most other people can’t.
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You harvested prematurely based on the size seen here but it's not going to result in weak mushrooms. Also bruising happens and is not something to be worried about, just grab the fruit and rub the coco off.
Oh, so it doesn’t affect potency to not wait? Once the veil tears, how long is it before the cap flattens? Is bruising purely aesthetic?
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Edited by MushroomMommy (11/02/23 04:37 AM)
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
#28526270 - 11/02/23 08:28 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I have some nats that are all shrimpy like yours. They were started from a germ plate, as I wanted to get something going while I did more transfers. It didn't look so bad, but I assume it was bacterial. That's probably the case for this tub as well. As long as the smell doesn't get real bad you're fine to try to flush it again.
About the small tub, the surface does look dry, but considering you already have pins It will probably be okay as long as there's a decent amount of water deeper in the substrate. If the whole sub is drying out there may not be enough water available to make very big mushrooms.
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: Kinoko314]
#28527227 - 11/02/23 10:22 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Grow Day 37 Day 19 in the 66qt Monotub/Big Boy: As a recap, wet weight of flush #1 was 964g. I dried on 160F for around 18 hours and thought I was being soooo smart by leaving some of the substrate on that I was bruising the hell out of the mushrooms trying to get off while wet--but low and behold it FUSED to the mushrooms. So there I was polishing and cutting each individual dried mushroom of any visible substrate. WHAT A CHORE. Final dry weight after that was 49g which is about 5% of the wet weight, but probably had more to do with what I cut off.
 Look how cute and little they are! 🤓
 Maybe it’s that they’re my first personal harvest or it’s the love and attention, or how long they were dried…but they cronch like a Cheeto and taste really good!
I can already tell that this level of individual attention will not be continuing on subsequent flushes and that I will become jaded and not mind cutting off bits of fruit to get rid of substrate, but for now nothing but TLC.
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Edited by MushroomMommy (11/07/23 10:04 PM)
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy] 1
#28533597 - 11/07/23 09:55 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Grow Day 38 - Friday Day 20 in the 66qt Monotub/Big Boy: To my surprise, most if not all of the areas where the surface was ripped up from the harvest have completely recolonized and the mushrooms I left in place are growing larger. New primordia is coming up so a second harvest doesn't seem like as much of a pipe dream.
 Day 17 in the 28qt Mini-Monotub/The Girlfriend: Things are looking pretty good in here albeit on the dry side. I can see the transition of the cap color from the dusty light brown to golden and toasty. Did I mention I added EZ Dialed holes? Because I did.


Grow Day 39 - Saturday Day 21 in the 66qt Monotub/Big Boy: Things are looking pretty good in here, but I will likely go ahead and harvest these at the same time as the mini-tub because as I can see the primordia increasing for flush 2 and I do not want a situation where I have to try and work around and stress out the pins of flush 2 while trying to harvest the overbaked leftovers from flush 1.

Day 18 in the 28qt Mini-Monotub/The Girlfriend: Here's an afternoon shot of things in this tub, I'm thinking by early evening I am going to go ahead and harvest because I can see some of the mushrooms starting to split on the top probably from the abrupt FAE introduction. Oops.
Grow Day 40 - Sunday Day 22 in the 66qt Monotub/Big Boy: Harvested the remainder of this tub last night, but didn't separately weigh it from the mini monotub's harvest, wet or dry, oops. Oh well. With it being a few days since I rehydrated and surface conditions looking parched
 I decided to commit the crime of putting micropore tape over some of the holes. I think moving forward with the EZ Dialed, I will be completely covering the optional 2 holes that are on either short side, so covering those.
 I know, I know "dOnT rElY oN tHe HyGroMetEr", but I have to say, I was surprised to see RH take such a nose dive according to my reader. Note that Sensor 1 is Big Boy, Sensor 2 is The Girlfriend and Sensor 3 is an unrelated grow of lion's mane. The readout at the bottom is the ambient in the room.
 FFWD… Come to find, it was low because the sensors weren't in the bins -_-. They were on my desk which explains why they were so close to ambient.

Day 19 in the 28qt Mini-Monotub/The Girlfriend: In an attempt to figure out wet weight, I did take a photo of the trays on the scale then weigh the trays later, but I havent figured out the difference yet with other things going on. I may come back and update this post though. Figured out a better way to harvest that speeds things up and also results in less bruising, Hattori Hanzo-ing that shit with a sharp knife made for less substrate on the fruits and a quicker process. Especially given that a lot of my mushrooms whether by genetics or my own haphazard growing conditions have clustered together into mounds.
Total dry weight for the remainder of flush 1 from Big Boy and all of Flush 1 for The Girlfriend is 56g. Combined with the 48 grams from the first portion of flush 1 from Big Boy that brings Flush 1 total for both bins to 105g from a total of 5qt colonized grain and 10lbs of substrate. Not baaaad. Not great, but not bad.
Grow Day 41-Monday Day 24 in the 66qt Monotub/Big Boy: Okay, committing a further crime, covering a couple more holes with micropore, the bottom two of the 5 on the short sides and the center of the 3 on the long sides.It's just too dry in there. Since I am permanantly covering the optional holes, I found these cute stickers to put over them in the meantime. CUUUUUUTE!

 Also, things are looking pretty alright inside. Got more primordia popping up and pins are showing up too.

Day 21 in the 28qt Mini-Monotub/The Girlfriend: Put the cute stickers on the optional holes over here as well as covering a few with micropore, In hindsight, I don't think I should've put as many holes on this tub as I did for the 66. Seems obvious in retrospect, but Things are looking good in here, readying for that second flush with super speed.



Grow Day 42 Day 25 in the 66qt Monotub/Big Boy: Not a ton of change, but it does appear that humidity is working its way back up and pins are coming in stronger.

Day 22 in the 28qt Mini-Monotub/The Girlfriend: Same in here. Probably a little early to say "it worked" but the micropore tape was probably one of my first decent impulse decisions in a while.
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Edited by MushroomMommy (11/07/23 10:44 PM)
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
#28534028 - 11/08/23 09:29 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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As someone else said, next harvest wait a bit longer once the veils break. Youll be surprised how much larger fruits can get between when the veil breaks and they start dropping spores. Congratz and keep up the good work
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy] 1
#28600187 - 12/27/23 06:59 PM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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My sincere apologies for stopping updating this log. I started many other projects since this one and realized that I really didn’t like the effects of this variety so my interest in updating the log sort of waned. I’m going to wrap things up with some final thoughts, dry weight data and a photo dump.
From these 2 monotubs, I got a total of 6 flushes. Which probably would’ve continued even longer if a cat hadn’t knocked it down 6 feet off a shelf and made it topple to its doom.

Neither tub got any significant contam or issues so in that regard it was successful overall, having run for a total of 74 days in their tubs. If only I liked the variety because it was quick, easy, and prolific. A perfect introduction to the hobby.
The 3qts that went into the 66qt monotub were much more successful than the 28qt, but all in here’s the harvest data:
TOTAL dry harvest from 10 pints of spawn inoculated with 1cc each of LC using organic rye, grown on a total of 10lbs of substrate across 2 tubs yielded a formidable: 9.551oz / 270.77g
Not bad for my first cultivation attempt. Looking forward to what’s next.
Here’s the flush data: Flush 1 66qt: wet weight 964g, Dry 49g Flush 1 28qt plus a little from 66qt i left to grow out: Dry 56g Flush 1 total: 105g dry
Flush 2 66qt: dry weight 51g Flush 2 28qt: dry weight 24g Flush 2 total: 75g dry
Flush 3 66qt plus a little from 28qt: Dry weight 63g (approx 53 from 66, 10g from 28qt)
This is around when 28qt stopped doing much, got some weird gelatin like metabolites and bacteria mix on the bottom of sub.
Flush 4 from 66qt: wet=?, Dry=12g
Flush 5 from 66qt: wet = 128, dry = 9.87 (down 7.71%)
Flush 6 from 66qt: wet = 84g, dry = 5.9g (down 7.1%)
Now, here’s a dump of photos from between grow day 42 and today—the final day which is grow day 92/day 74 spawned to bulk.





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Edited by MushroomMommy (12/27/23 07:08 PM)
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy] 1
#28600189 - 12/27/23 07:01 PM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Edited by MushroomMommy (12/27/23 07:03 PM)
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy] 2
#28600221 - 12/27/23 07:30 PM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Congrats on a great first pull, now you have plenty to hold you over till the next ones are done. Soon you will have more than you could eat in a couple of years.
Grow on Mommy!
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: Bajazly] 1
#28600302 - 12/27/23 08:54 PM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: CapSlinger] 2
#28600336 - 12/27/23 10:06 PM (1 year, 20 days ago) |
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That's the way she goes, boys. Sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn't, cause that's the fuckin way she goes.
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy] 1
#28600678 - 12/28/23 09:32 AM (1 year, 20 days ago) |
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Nice job MM!
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: Beautation]
#28609054 - 01/04/24 01:48 AM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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Thanks friends for all the encouragement and the community I didn’t know I needed.
While this variety’s effects were not my cup of tea…the true purpose of experience was well met. Not only well-endowed, long lasting, gentle and hand held my hand through the whole journey, but also I was given a safe space to explore and experiment; plenty of compassion while I found my personal groove.
I am left with the confidence to get out there and explore the wide world; find the one [or ones] that really meet my needs. So while I don’t know if we will ever find our way back to each other, I will always remain eternally grateful for the first-time experience and will remember our time with fondness.
He will always hold a special place in this girl’s heart.
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
#28622838 - 01/16/24 12:01 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Great Grow! Did you end up getting some spore prints and or make some LC from this strain you grew out? Just curious
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Edited by mycoloking (01/16/24 12:03 AM)
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: mycoloking]
#28622864 - 01/16/24 01:49 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah I made some clones as a learning experience, which flourished as well as 300ml of master LC that came out perfectly.
When I say this variety is resilient AF, I mean it. While the fruits were less than desirable (for me), the confidence gained through the experience is unmatched. It truly is the PERFECT variety for anyone’s first cultivation. Perhaps the name (HB) is quite fitting because, this guy will survive anything.
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
#28623115 - 01/16/24 08:42 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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When you did your clones were they straight from mushroom to LC or did you grown out in AGAR? I bet you were supper stoked seeing you LC results!
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: mycoloking]
#28624121 - 01/16/24 11:23 PM (1 year, 22 hours ago) |
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The clones I put to agar. Used my ugliest plates too. The last transfer I put to a messed up plate that had dried tilted and the agar was up high on one side and the culture jumped the half pipe. Didn’t give a shit!
See:
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
#28682989 - 03/01/24 06:43 PM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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I'm new here and new to growing. Does this look like mold or is this normal?
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: aam] 1
#28683201 - 03/01/24 09:39 PM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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aam said: I'm new here and new to growing. Does this look like mold or is this normal?
That tub is fucked. Ask questions in this thread next time instead of someone’s grow log Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers
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