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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: meta_mmxxii]
    #28513589 - 10/22/23 12:08 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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No I don't I have moved on from SB a while I am doing tubs now, sowwy.




Ahh no worries at all! I just checked out some of your threads and looks like you just got started a few months ago! Wonderful to see your progress ❤️


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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: Benson]
    #28513608 - 10/22/23 01:06 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Benson said:dope attitude and good on you for being hungry for knowledge :awesomenod:



Thank you for your kindness! I’m having a blast so far with this hobby and look forward to learning more as I go!

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If I'm understanding, you just compressed already-colonizing substrate? Tbh I don't know if this is harmful for the mycelium but I'm guessing it would hurt it enough to slow down the growth but probably not hamper the grow. Next time compress from the onset, that's sorta the point (not shitting on you).



Yeahhhh so I didn’t compress the 66qt bc of how far into colonization it was HOWEVER the 28qt was only like a day and a half into colonization and had no rhizomorphic growth yet, just a few fuzz spots where I had some grains poking through and luckily it bounced back almost immediately. The next day (yesterday) it was back on track and as of today is looking great. Banking on beginners luck but, THANKFULLY, my uhh “panic smash” does not seem to have negatively affected anything. *whew* Here is a current photo of it and for ref. This is 2 days post-compress.

I did not drill the holes in this tub, mostly because the 66qt took me a while and I got tired. But I’m actually not sure I’m going to. Might just flip the lid or prop lid using handles, let go of my bug paranoia

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what you could have done is what's called a casing layer. What you've done is called a "top layer"; a true casing layer is another layer added atop your substrate when it's nearing full colonization.



Yooo I had no idea there was a difference! I had read about adding a casing layer when moving to bulk and also about some that do it after colonization. Tbh I was a bit unclear on the difference or if there was benefit to doing one over the other. It seemed odd to me to dump a bunch of sub on top of a colonized surface and force the mycelium to then colonize the case, seemed like a set back and a bummer to cover such pretty growth :3 but I will definitely read more and probably do a thicker case on future tubs. The “soil” I’m using is pretty expensive so using something like a 1:6 sounds way out of my price range. I wonder if I were to case with just CV only and use the soil for mixing directly with the grain…idk something to think about.

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If you're doing shoeboxes with a 1:2 ratio you don't even need to dub tub in most cases. The fruit will simply push the lid off as they grow taller and 99% ready to harvest when they're that size, they don't get much bigger at that ratio.


so im not doing shoeboxes but I am doing 1:2 for these tubs. From what I hear this variety is a heavy first flush and not worth doing subsequent if you’re low on space—which I am. With my space, I can do a max of 4 66qt monotubs so doing additional flushes for a low harvest is not worth it for me right now, I’d rather move on to using the tub for a new one.

A mentor/friend of mine does her tubs with 3qts grain to ~6qts of soil. However she is using 54qt monos. So I think in future I’m just going to do 5qts to 10# for these 66ers. Or maybe widen the ratio and try the 1:6 if I start moving away from the prepared soil

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6 qt not 16



Oh wth those are TINY

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fruit flies and mosquitos get in with no cover charge.



The room is clean, but I’ve got pets, houseplants…and while I’m generally keeping the door to this room closed, fam needs stuff from the room from time to time so it’s sort inevitable that buggies might sneak in. I’ve got 2 Zevo bug plug traps in the room and we’re getting into Fall so mosquitos should be fugging off back to hell soon.

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I hear you on the hygrometer but it truly won't help you make any meaningful discoveries about improving your flush as any reading above 90% is pretty meaningless.




Damn son y’all shroomery peeps really hate them huh 😝. I feel you though. They were inexpensive and give me a small amount of peace of mind; once I get more comfy, I’ll probably just take them out.

Overall, thank you SO much for your insight, I feel very grateful for your kindness and experience. Much appreciated homie ❤️


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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: Kinoko314]
    #28513632 - 10/22/23 02:25 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Jar filters might be a bit too restrictive.  I would suggest using micropore tape, although if you want to get fancy you can buy "tub filters" that are less restrictive.  You could also probably make something yourself if you were so inclined.
I would suggest trying a grow with standard size holes with micropore on them and see how it goes.  If you find out it needed more fae, you can increase the size of the holes and cover it again.



Sooooooooo…you’ll see it again in an update I’ll be posting shortly, but I did end up putting the 20mm, .3 micron filters instead of micropore tape. Correct me if I’m wrong, but from what I could find online, the stickers (at least the ones I have) are actually more breathable than micropore tape. However, I still see where your heads at, “what if the stickers block too much FAE?”

I was thinking, if the stickers fail to give enough FAE……I had another “Lightbulb Moment (TM)” and thought of something I could potentially use.

Now, unless you’re a parent, you might not even think of or know what these are but, do you know what a Nose Frida is? :rofl: Hahahah this thing:

Omg, I’m imagining everyone who hasn’t had or been around a baby regularly’s face rn and cackling.
:kittylaugh:

I mean, it is exactly what it looks like. It’s essentially a manual nasal aspirator—a tube you shove up your baby’s nose and SUCK out their snot; your mouth is only protected by this small “filter”.
:awshitherewego:
Anyway, this filter piece just happens to be slightly over a 1/4” and I think it might work, they sell packs of them like this:

I think it’d let enough air in but keep larger particulates and unwelcome flying idiots out.

Might be crazy enough to work! BIG MOMMY BRAIN!


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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: MushroomMommy] * 1
    #28514642 - 10/22/23 08:00 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Grow Day 25 (continued)

Day 7 of 66qt Monotub/Big Boy:
Sorry that I didn’t update after finishing drilling the holes; it was late. Rather than edit that post, I’m making a separate one as I’ve had some comments since then.

To recap, I decided to ditch the original plan of running UNMODIFIED and instead am modifying the 66qt Big Boy in the style of PastyWhyte’s EZ Dial monotubs Tek. I followed this Tek exactly for number, size and location of holes but added 1 diffference which is covering the holes to prevent shit from flying into the tub.

PastyWhyte recommends 6 holes on the short sides of the bin and 3 on the long sides (note that PastyWhyte’s TEK lists some of these holes as optional, but since I’m covering the holes, I thought it best to make all of them).

Annnnd because I’m a perfectionist, I have created an easier to follow template for myself to be used for marking the hole placements.

SHORT SIDE:
As stated above, PastyWhyte’s Tek has a total of 6 holes on the short side; 5 under the handle and 1 centered near the bottom.

For the 5 under the handle, you’ll start out by creating a grid of 6 dots. The space directly under the handle horizontally is 4.75”, but if you’re using a standard ruler, you should measure slightly over this and do 5” (centered).

With 5” measured out under the handle, hold your ruler up to the protruding plastic and you’ll make a dot on row 1 at 1”, 2.5” and 4” (note that all of row 1 is a guide for row 2 and 3 and not where you will actually drill). Pasty says your first (drilled row) which in this case is my row 2, should be 1.5” below the purple handle luckily the space from where the top of my ruler to the purple handle is 1/2”, nice.

then vertically make your 3 dots below row 1, 1” below.

Lastly, on row 3, you’ll center 2 midway dots between the 3. Like this:


Before you drill, you’ll need to “erase” row 1/the top as they were just there as a guide. Leave row 2, and remove the original 3 you had in row 3/bottom row. To erase, just use iso91 on a swab. Afterward it’ll look like this:


I don’t have photos but on the bottom of short side you’ll make another dot centered with the middle column 5” from the bottom. On each long side make 3 holes, evenly spaced 5” from the bottom. Make a pilot hole in each of the dots, to help hold the forstner bit in place, then use a 1/4” forsnter bit or a spade bit for a perfect hole with no shredded plastic. They’ll look like this (ooOOoooh such nice smooth holes). Disregard the stuff in the box, it’s serving as some temp storage for a few supplies


Then I covered the holes with 20mm, .3 micron synthetic filter paper stickers to prevent buggies from getting in while also allowing FAE (fresh air exchange)


If the stickers end up blocking too much airflow I have a backup plan to try plugging the holes with Nose Frida filters lol…we’ll see!

Day 4 of 28qt Mini Monotub/The Girlfriend:
Did not add holes to the mini mono, mostly bc I got tired but may do so later. It’s seemingly recovering nicely from my panic compression 2 days ago (thankfully) don’t mind the shadow it’s not dark on the left side it’s just from the lighting


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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: MushroomMommy]
    #28514762 - 10/22/23 09:36 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I love the innovation with the snot sucker filters lol.


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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: meta_mmxxii]
    #28514833 - 10/22/23 11:13 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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I love the innovation with the snot sucker filters lol.




LOL I kinda hope the stickers fail just so I can try them 🤣


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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
    #28515685 - 10/23/23 06:48 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Grow Day 27

Day 9 of 66qt Monotub/Big Boy:
To recap, on Day 7 I introduced “fruiting conditions”.  I did this by modifying my tub, following PastyWhyte’s Ez Dial Method. Drilled a total of (18) 1/4” holes, but currently have them each covered with a breathable filter sticker (.3 micron) filter.

Photos from the afternoon:




May be hard to tell from the photos, but I’m noticing a change in the growth pattern of the mycelium. The rhizomorphic “arms/tendrils/polyps” seem to have flattened onto the surface. They’re still growing but look to be doing so almost horizontally now. Are they sad or is this normal?

ComebackKid’s write up on Proper Surface Moisture states there should ALWAYS be water beads on the surface. I admit, I’ve been being on the conservative side when misting but even when actively misting, it never looks like the photos from that write up. Maybe bc I’m using a finer mister? Mine just don’t ball up all dewy and big like that. When I mist, it’ll either look like an ultra fine misty fog on the surface or turn into a bog (which is obviously too much water), there’s no inbetween.

Not trying to be difficult or act like I know better, but I can’t help but feel like I’m over-misting because of trying to achieve the guide’s “perfect little water beads”. In my situation anyway, it’s causing my surface to look less like a dewy meadow and more like a river network map. I’ll save you the trouble of googling it, they look like this.


Should I not be trusting that I put the sub in at proper field capacity or is the sub being dried out from [too much] FAE

I’m back to add another update: at the recommendation of Meta_MMXXII.He said the above photos from earlier still looked dry so I grabbed my trusty fine mist bottle and swept some mist. After a few mins I came back to check the tub and it suddenly looked more like marshy wildlife reserve so I’m tilting the bin around to try and get the excess water to flow into any nooks and crannies. Felt like I was playing w/ one of those tilting board games where you try to get the marble through a maze lol:

Some of the water was absorbed, but with still visible pools and puddles, I gloved up and sanitize a paper towel by lightly spraying it with iso70 and start to blot the excess water. But THEN….I stop and freak TF out because I realize, I probably should not be putting alcohol directly on the mycelium via the paper towel or even touching it at all.
:fffuck:
So I’m fanning with the lid in an attempt to evaporate any alcohol. With the alcohol hopefully evaporated, it STILL doesn’t look like the pics from ComebackKid but will have to do.


Hopefully now, or sometime soon, I can get back to the Forget It part of “Set It and Forget It” bc all this misting and fanning is…:mad2:

Day 6 of 28qt Mini Monotub/The Girlfriend:
Recap: A few days ago, I “panic smashed” the surface of this tub after reading a write-up on top layer/pseudo casing and while the mycelium bounced back a day later, I also gave it a water spritz yesterday and just like with Big Boy, the mycelium “arms/tendrils” that were previously standing up, have flattened and are laying down, spreading along surface rather than vertically.

Since this bin does not have FAE holes, I’m thinking I can maybe rule out the flattening being linked to FAE and now think it’s being caused either from the misting or this is just the normal progression of the mycelium growth—can someone please weigh in??

By the way, I still haven’t decided if I’m going to add the EZ Dialed holes to this smaller tub or continue to run it unmodified but then I guess I’d have to flip the lid and risk the flying pests entering. Uhg

Here’s some photos from earlier this afternoon.



Here’s a photo later after misting. While I am still misting, I think I should mention that I’m definitely doing it less than I am in the other one and I’m justifying that bc the sub for this one is deeper lol don’t hate me for not doing enough. I turned on the camera flash so you can see my tiny version of the water beads that I’m supposed to have haha



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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: MushroomMommy]
    #28515980 - 10/23/23 09:53 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Your tubs look a little dry to me, may be the pic, but looks like it may be too much FAE. What you want is tiny beads of water on your sub surface. If your FAE is dialed in, you should have beads pretty much all the time if your sub has proper FC. You don't need to be concerned with the walls of the tub, the surface is what you need to keep an eye on. The mycelium inside the sub creates heat, and that heat will make little beads of water on your sub surface, and if those beads are not present, it means you have too much FAE and it is drying your surface. If you get long skinny stipes and fuzzy feet usually is a sign of not enough FAE. I don't think your rhizoidal mycelium laying down means much of anything. I could be wrong.
But good-looking tubs either way.


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Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: meta_mmxxii]
    #28516096 - 10/24/23 01:34 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

@meta_mmxxii Is this misting info based on ComebackKids Surface Conditions When to Increase FAE?

I’ve been trying to follow that TEK as closely as possible at least since coming into full colonization, but are we all certain that everything in that write up is still accurate? It looks like it hasn’t been updated since 2017 and is also using PastyWhyte’s old tubs, prior to the updated EZ Dialed.

Per your suggestion, I’ve now misted and will go back to edit the previous post


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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
    #28516364 - 10/24/23 09:36 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

"Is this misting information based on ComebackKids Surface Conditions When to Increase FAE?"
Yes, goes to show tried and true convention lasts the test of time.


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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: meta_mmxxii]
    #28516447 - 10/24/23 10:59 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

@meta_mmxxii Okay, cool. Just checking, as most Tek that old has become obsolete, but I do still see it referenced often.

Do you think I should close some of the holes by either blocking some with tape or maybe thicken the filter by adding a second filter sticker on interior?

I would think closing some holes and having tub run as a partially closed eco-system would be superior to regularly opening the lid to mist and/or fan as that’s higher risk of contam…right? Or nah, bc CO2?
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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
    #28516471 - 10/24/23 11:20 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

You can either close off or restrict (with filter) some holes if you're still drying out too fast.  It's best to make small changes and watch it for a day or two before changing more.

All of the nutrition is covered by myc at this point, so opening the lid isn't going to hurt.  Your goal should still be to not have to mist or do anything until after your first flush.

ComebackKid's surface conditions thread and Pasty's EZ-Dials would be considered current.

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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: Kinoko314]
    #28516602 - 10/24/23 01:44 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Thank you so much for the info Kinoko!

It’s been about 12 hours since last misting and the beads are barely there anymore and also not much wall condensation. Reminder that all FAE holes have the .3u filters over them. So, if it’s still evaporating, guess we don’t have to worry about the stickers blocking too much exchange, right?

I think so we can narrow down what’s going on, I’m going to block some holes with tape and see if the tub holds onto more moisture.

Pretty frustrating that it’s seemingly losing moisture, you think I should’ve stuck with unmodified? The soil/sub was just over FC when I put the tubs together, at about 6-8 drops from a hard squeeze and as I understand it, normal field capacity is around 3-5 drops.

I also think the cause might be too little grain and sub for this large of tub, the depth is only 2.5”

I checked the mini monotub (28qt) and it still had beads and lots of wall condensation, I gave a tiny spritz for good measure. Reminder that the smaller tub is not modded for FAE and has more sub depth. For ref:
Big Boy 66qt: 3lbs spawn to 6lbs sub (depth 2.5”)
The Girlfriend 28qt: 2lbs spawn to 4lbs sub (depth 4.5”)

For my next 66qt, I already planned to increase to 5lbs grain and 10lbs substrate. Or maybe just more sub…but hoping that keeps things more dialed in and won’t have to cover the holes at all


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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: MushroomMommy]
    #28516623 - 10/24/23 02:04 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Hey, fellow mother😊 I really enjoyed reading through your journal so far. You look to be doing a fantastic job. I sometimes find it tedious to journal/document things and lean towards impulsive project starter—>less great finisher. you’re an inspiration with all your details and solid research from the start.

Looking forward to following your progress❤️

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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: MushroomMommy]
    #28516646 - 10/24/23 02:21 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Yeah, more sub would probably be better.

Are you keeping the lid latched on while also using those stickers?  Those are already very restrictive.  If it's like that all the time I'm not sure how it would still be drying out. 

Evaporation is a major pinning trigger, so if you restrict too much and you can't get any evaporation off the surface, that can also be a problem.  It's been hard to see in the pics how many water droplets are there, so this is all you.

If you want to try unmodified, just tape up the holes, but flip the lid.  Having the air further away from the surface may help reduce moisture loss.

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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: Kinoko314]
    #28516690 - 10/24/23 03:05 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

@kinoko lid is latched, but I also just noticed it’s bowed slightly on one edge—a quick hit with the blow dryer and a bend and it’s back to normal. I guess I shouldn’t stack things on top of it :rolleyes:


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Re: Grow Journal/Log: 1st time cultivator fixin to grow sum mushrooms - lc syringe > rye grain in jars > unmodified mon... [Re: NatureGrl]
    #28516698 - 10/24/23 03:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

@NatureGrl Hi Mama, glad to see another mom here. Thank you for your encouragement! I’m impulsive as hell, but can hyperfocus (rarely on anything important though).

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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
    #28517249 - 10/25/23 12:04 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Grow Day 28

Day 10 of 66qt Monotub/Big Boy:
Checked conditions around 12h from yesterday’s misting and beads are gone again even with most of the holes closed. Whyyyyy

General expert consensus is for me to continue to follow
ComebackKid’s Proper Surface Moisture but I want to reiterate that in my case, it seems like misting is giving more “wet sheep’s wool”:

than “morning dew”:


Here’s a closer photo of the surface post-mist as I’m being told users can’t see the beads in my photos—took monotub to the front yard, squatting like a weirdo to get this photo:

So what does it mean that when misting I’m getting this wet sheep’s wool instead of round dew drops? To clarify what you’re seeing, the dark gray areas are parts of the surface mycelium that have a wispy, hair-like texture and are “wet-sheeping” it up, because they’re soaked in mist.

Also, when tilting tub slightly, I can see what looks like excess water collected underneath the substrate come to the edge, between the sub and liner. So if water’s there, why isn’t it absorbing? I no mushroom expert, but I do know gardening and wonder if sub has become too compacted to take in moisture? This is an issue that sometimes happens with potted plants—compaction after drying out too much and anaerobic b-words (bacteria not bitches) close it up and you can water all you want but it just drains out
:whatchatallkingabout:

I also thought I remembered reading something about manure based substrates not water beading the same way as standard cvg. But figures that now I can’t find the source. My sub mix does contain tortoise manure.

Bottom line, I do not think it should not be drying out like this and I believe the fault can be narrowed to one or more of the following:
    -too shallow depth of sub for the size of tub, only 2.5”
    -not enough sub for the amount of grain
    -too much air/too many holes from EZ Dialed mod
    -lower ambient room temp (been getting as low as 68F whereas last week it was hovering closer to 74F).

In an attempt to narrow the culprit, I’ll move forward on test 1, by closing some of the FAE holes I drilled. As of late this afternoon, I have put scotch tape over all holes except the top row under the handles and fixed the lid that I noticed was curved up on 2 corners possibly letting in too much air.

Update: It has now been 6 hours since taping the holes and after staring into top of lid for 10m straight like a friggen psychopath, I saw the wet sheep’s wool stuff creating the famed full-size dew drops, before my very eyes—I’m talkin misty small droplets MERGING with the soggy wool to create the MF dew drops!!!
:trippy:

Day 7 of 28qt Mini Monotub/The Girlfriend:
Lightly misted yesterday and this afternoon…overall looking relatively good, but I do wonder if opening the lid to mist all the time is causing more harm than good with too much FAE. Think I’m going to back off misting and leave this one alone for a couple days. I think it’s acting more self sufficient/dialed than the other bin bc it has more volume of grain and sun relative to size of container and no drill holes and that’s making it more dialed.

Edited by MushroomMommy (11/15/23 02:13 AM)

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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
    #28517328 - 10/25/23 02:53 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I love your posts, super entertaining.

I'm excited to see you get some pins and fruit.

You are well on your way.

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Re: Grow Log: Mom’s 1st Cultivation - LC > Rye Jars > Unmodified > EZ Dialed Monotub(s) [Re: MushroomMommy]
    #28517677 - 10/25/23 12:06 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

What kind of spray bottle are you using? I use a flairosol branded one it makes the fine dew drops across the surface.


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