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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28519503 - 10/26/23 09:33 PM (6 months, 18 days ago)

Cool! Thanks man.

Thanks for putting the storage topic into perspective. I agree completely. Ideally they should be shared and experienced rather than stored indefinitely.

Fwiw that first thread I linked talked about the incompatibility of O2 absorbers and desiccants in the first post. Nicely detailed. That’s good info not often seen elsewhere. A reminder that oxidation has far less impact on potency than moisture, which is harmful even in the short term.

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: DharmaForKarma]
    #28519521 - 10/26/23 09:55 PM (6 months, 18 days ago)

Nice sticky, Mr Beef. Should we call you Sir Beef now?

Congrats on an excellent post and the well deserved recognition.
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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: DharmaForKarma] * 3
    #28519523 - 10/26/23 09:58 PM (6 months, 18 days ago)

Okay. So new updates today:

-Added the blurb about experimentation into chapter 1.
-Added my stance about storage and dehydration.
-Added Milkboy's Gummy TEK
-Added that tea recipe that seems pretty legit.

Was there anything else? Be advised, Ythan stickied the thread. Thanks Ythan, and thanks to everyone whos helped and supported me.

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #28519525 - 10/26/23 09:59 PM (6 months, 18 days ago)

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Nice sticky, Mr Beef. Should we call you Sir Beef now?

Congrats on an excellent post and the well deserved recognition.




Thank you. I do feel honored.  For all this community has done for me, I owed it to give back.

Just Beef is fine sir. Thank you.

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #28519537 - 10/26/23 10:12 PM (6 months, 18 days ago)

:rockon:

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #28519692 - 10/27/23 12:50 AM (6 months, 18 days ago)

superb and comprehensive cataloging and concise explication of some very useful information, awesome writing too.
You honor us all with your contribution Beefy!


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: fiddle_head]
    #28519738 - 10/27/23 02:34 AM (6 months, 18 days ago)

This thread is right where it belongs. The first thing you see on Mushroom Cultivation, thanks again Beef for making the most comprehensive guide on the Shroomery. I would just like to recommend you to exercise caution when adding information. You do not want to overwhelm the noobs, something that has happened with bod's stickies in the past because there is so much information there.


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28519752 - 10/27/23 03:25 AM (6 months, 18 days ago)

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Okay. So new updates today:

Be advised, Ythan stickied the thread. Thanks Ythan, and thanks to everyone whos helped and supported me.



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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: JW123]
    #28519762 - 10/27/23 04:09 AM (6 months, 18 days ago)

This guide was already a must read but with all the improvement you've made it's become a gem.


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: Traveled] * 1
    #28519822 - 10/27/23 06:46 AM (6 months, 18 days ago)

As a noob I will say its alot of info but the way beef broke up the individual sections makes it very very approachable. For me personally I love how information dense this is because I no longer have to open like 5 separate threads haha, now I just open this one and go right the section I need to review!

Beef I have a question on the agar streaking with a MSS, do you dilute the original spore solution for the streak, or are they typically diluted enough to begin with? I know this probably varies by vendor but just in a general sense. I'm sure this info can be searched easily but I thought since this guide is so comprehensive a sentence could easily be added if dilution is needed and if not then my question is answered! Thank you again, I'm very happy to see this stickied to the top of cultivation now!

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: Kroxx] * 4
    #28519831 - 10/27/23 07:04 AM (6 months, 18 days ago)

Im not beefy but I can say for typical cult practice dilution is not necessary.


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28519835 - 10/27/23 07:14 AM (6 months, 18 days ago)

So happy to see this stickied. And in the top spot! Stellar work, Beef, from the badass title on down.

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: Hysteria] * 3
    #28520092 - 10/27/23 12:28 PM (6 months, 18 days ago)

Now if we could just get the new members to read it. :wink:


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: Hysteria] * 2
    #28520099 - 10/27/23 12:35 PM (6 months, 18 days ago)

Great work Beef! Have to say it again great content and compassionate delivery :heart:

And thanks Brother(s) for making the post forwarding happening. This is such a great tool and makes it finally possible to link directly to a chapter in the post........total game changer.

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #28520243 - 10/27/23 03:26 PM (6 months, 17 days ago)

Congrats on making our lives easier!  Now all we have to do is tell people to go to the first stickied post.  No linking, and hopefully much less explaining.

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: Kinoko314] * 2
    #28520244 - 10/27/23 03:28 PM (6 months, 17 days ago)

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Congrats on making our lives easier!  Now all we have to do is tell people to go to the first stickied post.  No linking, and hopefully much less explaining.

:rockman:





thanks man.  that was the idea all along.  everyone take a load off.  to me, if it starts to even sound like someone is regurgitating reddit info, ill ask them to read it so we can have a productive discussion from a place of knowledge

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28520277 - 10/27/23 03:55 PM (6 months, 17 days ago)

As a noob, the thing about experimenting hits hard. Sometimes it feels like I can't help it and curiosity gets the better of me. Maybe because at the beginning everything seems possible. I do feel though that learning from my own mistakes really makes it apparent why some stuff is not how its done. I wish there was a post on shroomery about all of the things one can do wrong and what are the consenquences.

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: Blueberry Muffin] * 4
    #28520294 - 10/27/23 04:09 PM (6 months, 17 days ago)

" In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few.”

-Shunryu Suzuki

There is the confessional thread as well as the outdated tek thread but yeah we don't really always take time to explain why we don't do those things. it already takes so much of our time and energy to explain why we DO do things.

Check out page one of my confessional thread. I was doing some absolutely asinine things in the early 2000's.  I had this home-made humidifier I made with an ultra-sonic fogger. It was a halloween gimmick designed to create a spooky fog effect.  I would pump the fog into my MASSIVE opaque 66qt mono with a fishtank air pump.  I thought i was soooo clever. What a fucking mess it made.. Of course it ruined the surface conditions. Somehow I managed to pull a flush out of that run but I realized pretty quickly how stupid it was.

SOOO i then tried to use the humidifier on an expensive classical guitar I owned and ruined it. I still hate myself for that and its been almost 20 years.

Its like You need the mushroom to open your consciousness so you can quit doing stupid shit but you can't get the mushroom to open open your mind up because you can't quit doing stupid shit and failing at the grow.

The growth happened exponentially once I got a bit of psil in me and I started respecting my elders like Bodhi...

Edited by BeefSupremeJr (10/27/23 04:47 PM)

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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 4
    #28520341 - 10/27/23 05:12 PM (6 months, 17 days ago)

Honestly this is going to sound douchey and I don't mean for it to be taken as an insult to anyone. I have a very sciencey mind. However, I suppressed my instincts and followed teks very carefully right from the start. I wasn't perfect, but between carefully following instructions, humbly asking for and listening to advice, and a fair amount of beginners luck, I was very successful on my first go at all of this. That is the douchey humble-brag.

Here is the douchey pot stirring. Just because I have an idea that differs from the accepted ideas and want to try it doesn't mean I am "doing science". The principals of science and the scientific method are firmly established for good reason. That is how we advance knowledge. But there are key principals missing from so many noob "experiments".
  • limiting variables - It is nigh on impossible to determine cause and effect when there are uncountable differences between experiments.
  • repeatability - It isn't proof if you and others cannot repeat the results.
  • objectivity - Model experiments to eliminate doubt, not prove a pet theory.
 
I see many well intentioned people fall to this last one. They have a theory, they have evidence that seems to support it, anecdotal or otherwise, they go to any lengths to defend the theory. Science is not religion. If your theory is fact, you can prove it, it may take a lot of time, though. So don't waste you time arguing. Design and implement experiments and create irrefutable evidence. Share the results. When that is refuted, design and implement more to eliminate the new objections. No matter what you find out, I promise that you will learn something.

The first step to limiting variables and producing repeatable results is following established methods. Once you have that down, change one (1) thing and test the result. Repeat ...

Sorry to lecture, and I don't like to yell into an echo chamber, but this brilliant thread seemed like a good place for this. Okay, back to my own, ah-hmm, experiments.


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #28520346 - 10/27/23 05:14 PM (6 months, 17 days ago)

Quote:

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Honestly this is going to sound douchey and I don't mean for it to be taken as an insult to anyone. I have a very sciencey mind. However, I suppressed my instincts and followed teks very carefully right from the start. I wasn't perfect, but between carefully following instructions, humbly asking for and listening to advice, and a fair amount of beginners luck, I was very successful on my first go at all of this. That is the douchey humble-brag.

Here is the douchey pot stirring. Just because I have an idea that differs from the accepted ideas and want to try it doesn't mean I am "doing science". The principals of science and the scientific method are firmly established for good reason. That is how we advance knowledge. But there are key principals missing from so many noob "experiments".
  • limiting variables - It is nigh on impossible to determine cause and effect when there are uncountable differences between experiments.
  • repeatability - It isn't proof if you and others cannot repeat the results.
  • objectivity - Model experiments to eliminate doubt, not prove a pet theory.
 
I see many well intentioned people fall to this last one. They have a theory, they have evidence that seems to support it, anecdotal or otherwise, they go to any lengths to defend the theory. Science is not religion. If your theory is fact, you can prove it, it may take a lot of time, though. So don't waste you time arguing. Design and implement experiments and create irrefutable evidence. Share the results. When that is refuted, design and implement more to eliminate the new objections. No matter what you find out, I promise that you will learn something.

The first step to limiting variables and producing repeatable results is following established methods. Once you have that down, change one (1) thing and test the result. Repeat ...

Sorry to lecture, and I don't like to yell into an echo chamber, but this brilliant thread seemed like a good place for this. Okay, back to my own, ah-hmm, experiments.





totally understood.  you noobed right. once in a while there are those.

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