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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28516074 - 10/24/23 12:56 AM (3 months, 3 days ago)

Thank you! Awesome up-to-date information that I wish I also had seen when I first started (recently). Would you consider adding a tek with poured agar to inoculate grain jars? I recently tried cutting up agar in a boro glass petri into tic tac toe and then scraping the pieces while holding the plate upside down above the jar. The next thing I tried is scraping the pieces into sterilized water and then pouring a bit into a grain jar. Remains to be seen if any of the two methods worked.


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28516144 - 10/24/23 04:04 AM (3 months, 3 days ago)

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theodor said:
Thank you! Awesome up-to-date information that I wish I also had seen when I first started (recently). Would you consider adding a tek with poured agar to inoculate grain jars? I recently tried cutting up agar in a boro glass petri into tic tac toe and then scraping the pieces while holding the plate upside down above the jar. The next thing I tried is scraping the pieces into sterilized water and then pouring a bit into a grain jar. Remains to be seen if any of the two methods worked.





Hi thank you,  If you check the links in the SPAWN section you'll see pasty's tic-tac-toe tiger drop tek which is more or less how I do my jars. I guess im not sure what you're suggesting beyond this?

The first method you mentioned sounds approximately like what I do.




It seems like the tek is meant to be used with no pour plastic containers, not poured glass petris, so I wasn't sure what I'm doing is allowed


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28516161 - 10/24/23 04:43 AM (3 months, 3 days ago)

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Glass is not something I ever tiger drop with, personally I don't like to tiger drop either way.

Cut your agar into wedges and use the scalpel like a spoon as I mentioned.
You can spike them and lift like a spoon.




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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28520277 - 10/27/23 03:55 PM (2 months, 30 days ago)

As a noob, the thing about experimenting hits hard. Sometimes it feels like I can't help it and curiosity gets the better of me. Maybe because at the beginning everything seems possible. I do feel though that learning from my own mistakes really makes it apparent why some stuff is not how its done. I wish there was a post on shroomery about all of the things one can do wrong and what are the consenquences.


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: NFLProof]
    #28521957 - 10/29/23 05:34 AM (2 months, 29 days ago)

The thing I needed to realize at a higher level is that generally you need a clean culture (agar work) and let myc colonize in a sterile environment with all necessary nutrients and proper moisture level (pc grains or pftek) and then add a bit of coir or lots of coir (top fruiting or bulk respectively, NO nutrients added) and then balance FAE with humidity.

I think I have a theory down, but it still requires a lot of personal experience of looking at agar plates, trying to understand what is good, bad or better than something else. Also letting poured plates sit for a few days has been an eye opener. I thought that my sterile technique was lacking during transfers, turned out that it was lacking just mostly during pouring.


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: Way]
    #28527392 - 11/03/23 02:31 AM (2 months, 24 days ago)

Beef, I was wondering if some info on spawn to coir ratio would be a nice addition. As a beginner who has not spawned yet, I'm looking forward to spawning but inevitably start wondering about the ratio to use and what are the tradeoffs in either end. I believe I've read that amount of yield is correlated most with the amount of spawn and that more spawn means faster colonization, more yield, less time for some contam to outrun the myc but if there's not enough coir then more babysitting is needed humidity wise? I believe I've read something about bigger fruits, less flushes or smaller fruits more flushes... some guidance is appreciated :smile:


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Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Shroomer [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28527651 - 11/03/23 09:36 AM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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theodor said:
Beef, I was wondering if some info on spawn to coir ratio would be a nice addition. As a beginner who has not spawned yet, I'm looking forward to spawning but inevitably start wondering about the ratio to use and what are the tradeoffs in either end. I believe I've read that amount of yield is correlated most with the amount of spawn and that more spawn means faster colonization, more yield, less time for some contam to outrun the myc but if there's not enough coir then more babysitting is needed humidity wise? I believe I've read something about bigger fruits, less flushes or smaller fruits more flushes... some guidance is appreciated :smile:




you bet. 

i might not get a chance to add it before you spawn
so heres my method and im
quite fond of it:

for a 16qt tub:

I take two qts of spawn and mix with 8qts of coir.  level it and compress it hard with a tile float.  now i pseudo case it with two more qts (as per stipe & cap) and i level and compress that too. 

this gives a lot more available water to pull from so your flushes will be rich and you should get at least a couple depending on the var.




Thanks! Had to search to confirm what I thought is pseudocasing. Basically mix spawn and coir and then add plain coir on top. I'm guessing compressing will give a more even flush at the cost of colonization time?


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Re: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery [Re: B Traven] * 1
    #28536351 - 11/09/23 10:11 PM (2 months, 17 days ago)

I already forgot how intimidating canning was.  Some things I learned that I'm still not 100% confident in and some are my assumptions:

Lids are unscrewed to let the air out and prevent exploding.
PC needs to be vented or in other words air needs to come out because steam is what does the sterilizing and the pressure gauge won't read right (and in my experience rise unnaturally rapidly).
The PC should cool down and drop in pressure without intervention. I tried letting the steam out faster, I think that is the reason agar spilled out of the media bottles my first time (might not be as important for grain?).
The jars should not touch the walls of the pc because they might break? A little room should be left between jars or walls for steam to access?
Water can be up to 50% the height of the jars. If your PC has a jiggler, consider taping a few cents on top of it to prevent noise and loss of moisture at 15 psi (I just used foil to attach some cents on top of the jiggler)

Well.. I think thats mostly what I know. Some of it is prob wrong or some reasons for doing stuff might be wrong.


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Re: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28585102 - 12/16/23 09:22 AM (1 month, 11 days ago)

Simply legendary. I have no words


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Re: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery [Re: San Pedro Girl]
    #28589528 - 12/19/23 09:07 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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Re: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery [Re: Nichrome]
    #28589645 - 12/19/23 11:09 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I might change my mind. Not sure if I actually enjoy the body load. Will get some classic cubes going soon and compare


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