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OfflineB Traven
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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: AskingAlexis]
    #28500871 - 10/11/23 09:05 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

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AskingAlexis said:
UB to coir just for fun and they look like shit. (I have legitimate teks going now too) I inoculated two bags, put them both in to a little tub thing and they look like they’re knotting. Surprised the hell outta me! Still plenty of time for things to go very wrong though.








Everything runs on transparent and versatile, but sometimes confusing, old-school url codes. You got the pictures pasted in fine, but the code for them just ended up in the middle of your paragraph somehow.

If you quote my post, you can see all of the code in it.

If you click "edit" on the original post you made, you can compare notes and see how I rearranged it.

There's a reason why almost all my posts have taglines indicating that I later edited them lol


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: B Traven] * 1
    #28500878 - 10/11/23 09:12 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

Do we know who came up with Uncle Bens tek, so we can give them 99 years of hard labor?


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: B Traven]
    #28500900 - 10/11/23 09:21 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

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B Traven said:
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AskingAlexis said:
UB to coir just for fun and they look like shit. (I have legitimate teks going now too) I inoculated two bags, put them both in to a little tub thing and they look like they’re knotting. Surprised the hell outta me! Still plenty of time for things to go very wrong though.






Everything runs on transparent and versatile, but sometimes confusing, old-school url codes. You got the pictures pasted in fine, but the code for them just ended up in the middle of your paragraph somehow.

If you quote my post, you can see all of the code in it.

If you click "edit" on the original post you made, you can compare notes and see how I rearranged it.

There's a reason why almost all my posts have taglines indicating that I later edited them lol




Or you can get rid of the spaces between pics so that it doesn't have to be so looooooong.


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: Kinoko314] * 2
    #28501022 - 10/11/23 11:08 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

I know Uncle Bens is rubbish but what about the new and improved Uncle Beans?



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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: B Traven] * 1
    #28501038 - 10/11/23 11:34 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

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UBtek is the crack rock of cultivation, except that crack is more reliable.




If Uncle Ben's is the crack rock of cultivation, then agar plates are freebase. :lmafo:


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: Baba Yaga] * 2
    #28501042 - 10/11/23 11:41 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

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Baba Yaga said:
I know Uncle Bens is rubbish but what about the new and improved Uncle Beans?






:yougoodjob:

I'll spread the good word


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: B Traven]
    #28502259 - 10/12/23 07:42 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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B Traven said:
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AskingAlexis said:
UB to coir just for fun and they look like shit. (I have legitimate teks going now too) I inoculated two bags, put them both in to a little tub thing and they look like they’re knotting. Surprised the hell outta me! Still plenty of time for things to go very wrong though.








Everything runs on transparent and versatile, but sometimes confusing, old-school url codes. You got the pictures pasted in fine, but the code for them just ended up in the middle of your paragraph somehow.

If you quote my post, you can see all of the code in it.

If you click "edit" on the original post you made, you can compare notes and see how I rearranged it.

There's a reason why almost all my posts have taglines indicating that I later edited them lol






Shroomery auto-pasted them in for me though. I just clicked the little image that allows you to upload pics to your post and that’s just where it added them for some reason. If I was on a computer I wouldn’t mind going through and trying to fancy my post up but I absolutely hate trying it on my phone. Here’s an update though. I removed one of the cakes out of the bowl and just laid it on my incubator tray filled with water because the sides had a lot of knotting going on too so I figured if the sides were gonna pin too I might as well open it up for it to do so. I left the other in the bowl it was in. I’m still not even 100% sure these are knots but it’s what it looks like to me.



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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: AskingAlexis]
    #28502277 - 10/12/23 07:47 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

incubator eh? I suppose theres little and less we can do to talk you out of that too.


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28502291 - 10/12/23 07:52 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

But you can still see the code if you go to edit your post.

I do everything on my phone, including cleaning up that post for you lol


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: B Traven]
    #28502300 - 10/12/23 07:54 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

I didn’t say I couldn’t. I just said it’s annoying.


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: chikn fingaz]
    #28502500 - 10/12/23 09:48 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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Spacecadet94 said:
Do we know who came up with Uncle Bens tek, so we can give them 99 years of hard labor?



I believe Uncle Ben himself invented the tek just before he died after eating one of the mushrooms from his first flush. lmao


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: meta_mmxxii]
    #28502524 - 10/12/23 10:00 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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meta_mmxxii said:
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Spacecadet94 said:
Do we know who came up with Uncle Bens tek, so we can give them 99 years of hard labor?



I believe Uncle Ben himself invented the tek just before he died after eating one of the mushrooms from his first flush. lmao




Everyone thinks the name change to Ben's Original was a way to sweep a racist trope under the rug.

But really, it was Uncle Ben reaching nirvana from all those sweet, sweet mushrooms grown from his bags. And it could only happen after some executives in the Mars corporation were inspired by divine wisdom to start marketing heat-and-serve microwaveable rice pouches. That was the catalyst for the legions of the faithful to implement UBtek, which eventually led to Uncle Ben's ascension.


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: chikn fingaz] * 1
    #28502716 - 10/13/23 02:00 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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Do we know who came up with Uncle Bens tek, so we can give them 99 years of hard labor?




The Uncle Ben's Tek, as it is now known, was developed right here on The Shroomery some 20 years ago. Some cultivators tried it with some success, many failed miserably with moldy, bacterial messes. It was discarded as a viable tek due to it's low 20-25% success rate, and cultivators stayed with the standard, proven, high success techniques. That being the traditional agar → grain → substrate, starting from a spore print for those with a PC and the PF-Tek (BRF/Verm) starting with a spore syringe for those without a PC.

Somehow a few years back UB found it's way to reddit and youtube, as most of our outdated scrapped teks do, and surprisingly gained popularity and a loyal following.

We can steer people towards the easy, highly productive methods and away from UB, but many people will refuse to budge and defend the UB. And that is their right. We can ignore them. We don't have to feed the trolls, as some of them may be. Trying to force people to change their minds makes them more resistant to change. Many will come around on their own weeks or years later or not at all. That is their choice.

This thread can be productive, but it can easily turn into a mean-spirited, troll fest, where shroomerites attack the tek and insult and ridicule new users who dare use a method not recommended by most cultivators. It has happened before. I hope that doesn't happen here, just wanted to point that out.


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: veggie] * 1
    #28502717 - 10/13/23 02:06 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

We all forget real fast that rice is a viable grain, not as good as the default grains we use but they work.


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28502838 - 10/13/23 06:51 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

I think the point of this thread is to cut down on the "Oh, god, not another UB thread " reaction, and to allow people to give actual advice on projects in-process without feeling like enablers. And as we've gotten all the caveats out of the way in one central location, there's no need to over-engage with the people who choose that hill to die on.

I'm not gonna lie, UBtek represents the worst combination of corporate branding and wasteful consumption to me. If I clown a bit, it's actually just to avoid getting sanctimonious about the whole thing.


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: AskingAlexis]
    #28502860 - 10/13/23 07:06 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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B Traven said:
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AskingAlexis said:
UB to coir just for fun and they look like shit. (I have legitimate teks going now too) I inoculated two bags, put them both in to a little tub thing and they look like they’re knotting. Surprised the hell outta me! Still plenty of time for things to go very wrong though.








Everything runs on transparent and versatile, but sometimes confusing, old-school url codes. You got the pictures pasted in fine, but the code for them just ended up in the middle of your paragraph somehow.

If you quote my post, you can see all of the code in it.

If you click "edit" on the original post you made, you can compare notes and see how I rearranged it.

There's a reason why almost all my posts have taglines indicating that I later edited them lol






Shroomery auto-pasted them in for me though. I just clicked the little image that allows you to upload pics to your post and that’s just where it added them for some reason. If I was on a computer I wouldn’t mind going through and trying to fancy my post up but I absolutely hate trying it on my phone. Here’s an update though. I removed one of the cakes out of the bowl and just laid it on my incubator tray filled with water because the sides had a lot of knotting going on too so I figured if the sides were gonna pin too I might as well open it up for it to do so. I left the other in the bowl it was in. I’m still not even 100% sure these are knots but it’s what it looks like to me.






You still clicked a click or whatever to have the code for the images dropped in to where it landed the middle of your paragraph, but nevermind. It was easy enough to follow, anyway. Sometimes I accidentally delete the wrong part of the quote codes, and end up with such a mess that I get frustrated and delete everything lol

Yeah, there are definitely some knots forming there. Surface conditions look ok to me. Not much to do but cross your fingers and let it ride!


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: B Traven] * 2
    #28502914 - 10/13/23 07:49 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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I think the point of this thread is to cut down on the "Oh, god, not another UB thread " reaction, and to allow people to give actual advice on projects in-process without feeling like enablers. And as we've gotten all the caveats out of the way in one central location, there's no need to over-engage with the people who choose that hill to die on.




Correct.

The OP clearly states why we don't support UB; it provides an alternative, helps the sincere noob while outing trolls and their antiestablishment-crusader cousins who possess a greater desire for dopamine by combat, rather than a sincere interest in cult. They can expect removal by ban hammer.

This thread is not intended for encouragement with UB grows, advice on "how things look" etc. Should an UB zealot attempt to highjack this thread for pontification, their post will be deleted,  then issued a vacation.

This thread might just be locked outright, the OP converted to a disclaimer and warning. No discussion. This subject has been sufficiently covered ny the OP and all previous threads on the topic.


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #28503225 - 10/13/23 11:54 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Uncle Ben’s is not the only brown rice in a pouch.  Dollar Tree is rocking a highly inexpensive knock off.


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: lowbrow]
    #28503238 - 10/13/23 12:08 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

I thought this thread would be fun. Now i kinda hope stipe just locks it.


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Re: Uncle Bens open mic discussion [Re: DrunkPunk] * 1
    #28504147 - 10/14/23 09:29 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

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I think examples of other cost efficient/scale/successful/inconspicuous options presented in one place will help more people make an informed decision.




Speechless.

Queuing up Bod's Sticky.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021



Yes, Bod's sticky is a great post and it s where I started.  But you cherry-picked one line out of my comment in order to make a smartass comment (for whatever reason) when I was showing support as someone new to the hobby for why THIS thread was a valid conversation.  My whole comment was referring to a resource as to WHY UBtek is bad and alternatives.  People go with UB because is sounds the easiest and the amount of information here and elsewhere can be overwhelming.  As a newcomer, as helpful as Bod's sticky is, BeefSupremeJr's recent post https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28501530/page/1 I think is a very good addition, along with the current thread.


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