|
GenesisCorrupted
Taoist, Writer, Student, Artist




Registered: 08/01/23
Posts: 11,737
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 1 minute, 19 seconds
|
MAO safety sheet. Non chem trip killer recipe for MAOI & Ayahusca/Psilohuasca
#28497169 - 10/08/23 10:59 PM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
|
|
IMPORTANT! CAUTION! Always practice harm reduction. Most traditional trip killers will kill you! Benzodiazepine and tranquilizer darts work.
 But not all of us have a person ready to hunt the deadliest game. Any SSRI, or sedative. Will be insanely exaggerated in your system. You could slip into a coma. Or have a heart attack on the spot. There is high probability of experiencing serotonin syndrome when this is mixed with too many compounds at once. I would say no more than four. Because marijuana counts as one. So rue, MJ, DMT. Then possibly one other compound. That is pushing it! Marijuana is given almost a Mulligan, Due to it almost being required to combat the nausea involved with Ayahusca. Do not use traditional trip killers, while using these compounds!
You’re gonna be OK. I can get you out of this. Luckily you were prepared. If not, the trip sitter can very easily get these ingredients. You should have a fruit smoothie consisting of lots of citrus and banana. For taste it is suggested to also include any other fresh fruit you have. Nothing curdled nothing expired nothing bruised. If you don’t have access to banana, but you have access to citrus or vice versa, just make that the predominant thing. A banana milkshake. Or very strong lemon tea. These are both going to reduce the high of what you’re experiencing naturally. It also won’t cause anything negative to happen. This is also completely natural and safe.
Reference materials

 https://mainiti.org/preparation/
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pawkek/what-not-to-eat-or-take-before-ayahuasca
This actually means that a lot of traditional brews are made wrong… Bananas should never be involved in the recipe. Supplement with two potassium tablets. Ayahusca can cause a lack of potassium in the body. Without lessening the trip, you will still get what you need.
I was also alerted to low magnesium levels in some users. This can also be safely added to the recipe without doing anything bad.
While you’re at it, just add every supplement. You would have a much better chance at absorbing it right now. The only thing you must never add in the supplement class is melatonin!
Melatonin is poison while on these compounds.
Edited by GenesisCorrupted (11/29/23 11:32 PM)
|
viraldrome



Registered: 09/21/18
Posts: 4,225
Loc: Parts Unknown
Last seen: 1 hour, 12 minutes
|
Re: Only safe trip killer recipe for MAOI & Ayahusca/Psilohuasca [Re: GenesisCorrupted] 2
#28497189 - 10/08/23 11:45 PM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
|
|
I don't think a fruit smoothie kills an Ayahusca trip. You have a source for this claim?
-------------------- Lysergamides I have tried so far: 1P-LSD, 1cP-LSD, ALD-52, AL-LAD, LSZ, ETH-LAD, MIPLA, EIPLA, 1cP-AL-LAD
|
GenesisCorrupted
Taoist, Writer, Student, Artist




Registered: 08/01/23
Posts: 11,737
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 1 minute, 19 seconds
|
Re: Only safe trip killer recipe for MAOI & Ayahusca/Psilohuasca [Re: viraldrome]
#28497193 - 10/08/23 11:55 PM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
|
|
Edited by GenesisCorrupted (10/12/23 09:08 PM)
|
nooneman


Registered: 04/24/09
Posts: 14,700
Loc: Utah
|
Re: Only safe trip killer recipe for MAOI & Ayahusca/Psilohuasca [Re: GenesisCorrupted] 3
#28497215 - 10/09/23 01:01 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
|
|
Benzos. Drinking is a smoothy isn't going to do anything.
|
GenesisCorrupted
Taoist, Writer, Student, Artist




Registered: 08/01/23
Posts: 11,737
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 1 minute, 19 seconds
|
Re: Only safe trip killer recipe for MAOI & Ayahusca/Psilohuasca [Re: nooneman]
#28497218 - 10/09/23 01:07 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
|
|
Dude that will not save you. Did you read those articles? My method is safe. It doesn’t involve any chems.
Related to what you said. You actually commented on the trip report. When I was brought to the hospital. They didn’t believe me that I had taken DMT. They thought I was lying. They thought I had taken PCP… So they gave me a sedative and almost killed me.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00711559
 I also don’t think that chem would do anything to stop you from getting PTSD if you’re having a really bad trip.
Edited by GenesisCorrupted (10/13/23 01:59 AM)
|
Northerner
splelling chceker


Registered: 07/29/12
Posts: 14,828
Loc: FNQ
Last seen: 3 hours, 8 minutes
|
Re: Only safe trip killer recipe for MAOI & Ayahusca/Psilohuasca [Re: GenesisCorrupted] 1
#28497258 - 10/09/23 04:23 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
|
|
Benzos aren't downers, they are tranquilizers.
There's no contraindication between benzodiazepines and MAOI's. It's a safe and reliable way to lessen the effect of tryptamine and lysergamide trips. They are commonly used in emergency departments for this purpose.
Obviously freaking out and eating way too many is dangerous, eating too many pills is dangerous. But that aside.
Drinking a smoothie might make you feel better, but because smoothies are nice and give you readily available energy. I don't know about any psychoactive properties of smoothies.
--------------------
The nearest we ever come to knowing truth is when we are witness to paradox.
|
Sabnock
Be Your Own Shaman


Registered: 01/02/14
Posts: 3,279
Last seen: 3 hours, 46 minutes
|
Re: Only safe trip killer recipe for MAOI & Ayahusca/Psilohuasca [Re: Northerner] 1
#28497296 - 10/09/23 06:24 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
|
|
Yeah benzos are fine, i've taken Xanax, as well as Klonopin, as well as Ativan (all separately of course) in combination with Harmalas and haven't noticed any issues.
Personally though i use and recommend Lemon Balm tea (3 to 4.5 grams of dried leaf made into a tea), i usually consume it with my Aya in order to make for a smoother come up, a more positive experience, cleaner bodyload, and the anti-anxiety effects it has, and it hasn't gotten in the way of anything and all of my most mystical/spiritual/beneficial experiences were with Lemon Balm in the mix. One can consume it with their Aya for a smoother trip, or can take it during the trip if you need to take the edge off.
Fruits definitely aren't going to do much imo, although Potassium may since it can help lower blood pressure and as such may help to relax you. Harmalas also deplete Magnesium btw, i'm not sure if they deplete Potassium but they definitely deplete Magnesium so make sure you're getting enough Magnesium especially if you take Harmalas regularly like i do, so if you start cramping or noticing heart palpitations, take some Magnesium.
|
|