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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#28479396 - 09/23/23 01:33 AM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Any idea on how much spawn and sub to use if I don’t want to use verm?
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: AndRoo]
#28479612 - 09/23/23 08:33 AM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Verm is optional and doesn’t affect spawn requirements. Proceed with confidence using straight coir at normal ratio
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Nonagon]
#28480092 - 09/23/23 02:58 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Long time forum crawler, first time poster. Figured I would just give a shout out to pasty for the tek and echo just how easy and straightforward this tek was to execute. It's my first grow and rather than using bucket tek I opted to try my hand with a bulk spawn tek, taking it slow.
So far, this has worked great. I am using 100% coir sub and spawned to fully pasteurized BRF. I used LC from Shroomery sponsor Cube Culture USA and I've been pretty happy with the results. No flush yet, but getting close. Started my first set of jars in late July.
For my first mono I have mixed my box up 50/50 - APE and Goldens.I'm not sure if this is smart, but it's what I thought was most efficient.
In jars the GTs colonized way quicker than the APE, but overall, the APE has pinned much more rapidly than the GTs. Might've been a number of factors, but both sides are taking off pretty well. It's been one week into the process and I should hopefully start seeing fruits soon. Humidity and FAE look on point. I'm pretty stoked this far.
Appreciate everyone throwing out ideas, comments, and improvements throughout. Feel like there's a ton of bad info out there and all of the guidance here is just amazing.
Here are some photos. Feedback/questions welcome.




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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: grammyce]
#28480218 - 09/23/23 05:04 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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I'm thinking it will work out okay since you didn't mix them all up together. That would probably lead to smaller flushes.
I would suggest just splitting them up into shoeboxes next time, so you don't have different masses of mycelium competing with each other.
I'm really interested to see how this works out though.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Kinoko314]
#28480285 - 09/23/23 06:18 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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I actually didn't think about the competition until after I did it and looked at full flush photos more closely than before. Makes sense.
I'll probably post a follow up seperate thread to track my progress. Have 24 more jars coming. Seems to be working well using BRF but going to try the oat and grain teks next... Brf is slooow.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#28492360 - 10/04/23 07:04 PM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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A nice tool for super clean holes. Maybe cheaper than buying some step bits. It's a "rc body post reamer". I like this one cause I'm able to take the black bit part out and put it on my drill. Just used it and had no risk of cracking plastic and no heating up a drill bit.

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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#28497063 - 10/08/23 08:20 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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I have a good amount of water pooling up under my liner in this 32qt sterilite gasket tub. Is water pooling up there okay? Does it indicate I need more FAE to increase evaporatoration? Hole configuration is 2 on long side. 1 lower hole on short side. 3 higher holes on short side. Tub is fruiting very nicely, but is this something to be concerned about?
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Chumbum]
#28497089 - 10/08/23 08:46 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Have you been misting it a lot? The water looks very clean, so it may have run down the sides.
If the liner is fully intact I suppose it won't make a difference, but if there are any holes, it might get soggy in those areas.
It's probably best to dump it, just don't mess up the substrate in the process. You can use a syringe to suck it out, if you have one.
If you can't get it out without breaking your substrate, you could take the risk of it leaking in through the liner and just leave it alone.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Kinoko314]
#28497096 - 10/08/23 08:52 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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No I haven't misted at all. Except maybe when I first spawned. I will probably just leave it alone. I'm terrified of ruining this tub haha. Probably my best pinset so far. Here's a pic so you can see the moisture on the side walls as well.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Chumbum]
#28497128 - 10/08/23 09:23 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Maybe add another couple holes or move the tub away from any walls that might be slowing evaporation - it's not bad, just a tiny bit on the moist side. I wouldn't worry about the water that's collecting doing any harm if you have a liner.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: PBJ710]
#28497142 - 10/08/23 09:41 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Don’t worry about water there, it’s normal when it runs down the sides. I would wait to see how it fruits before I consider adding holes. In fact I wouldn’t add more, rather just slightly widen some of the existing ones. Start with widening a couple of the top holes first, then fruit that. Ease it in and once fully dialed it’s a perfect tub.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#28497152 - 10/08/23 10:15 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Sounds great thanks for the suggestions. Widening the holes allready there will be easy with the use of that reamer tool I posted earlier. I have a second 32 qt tub I will try the wider hole configuration on. I'll eventually report back when I get that tub spawned and fruiting.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Chumbum]
#28497344 - 10/09/23 07:42 AM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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I’ve found cracking open the lid and playing around with adding extra FAE that way can do the trick. It can really dial in a fat flush to its full potential and keep it from being too wet. If it starts drying out a simple mist does the trick.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Psicomb]
#28497365 - 10/09/23 08:13 AM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Yeah I may crack the lid for this run. I'm needing to find the sweet medium point. Eventually I'll have it dialed in to maintain good surface condition without drying out. With this setup surface conditions were pretty good before I saw pins. I was out of town this weekend and didn't get too look at the surface too much but I'm sure the water bead were a little heavy. Like previously stated I'll probably start with slightly widening the holes and go from there. I'd rather not have to crack the lid on every tub as I'd like to stack these eventually. After all that's the point of this "tek" spawn to bulk and leave it alone until harvest. Which is what I've done this time, I just noticed the water pooling up and wondered if it was an issue or just something to be dialed out.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Kinoko314]
#28509818 - 10/18/23 06:21 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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Quote:
Kinoko314 said: I'm thinking it will work out okay since you didn't mix them all up together. That would probably lead to smaller flushes.
I would suggest just splitting them up into shoeboxes next time, so you don't have different masses of mycelium competing with each other.
I'm really interested to see how this works out though. 
Ok so I should've asked before I did this. I think one of the APE jars has some residual un-colonized BRF left over and I got trich. I tried and tried to quell the spread but it was just too much. Pretty much grew over everything and I had to dump out the grow. I'm super sad. Had high hopes. It could have also been since I didn't sterilize the liner(??). Not sure if that's a cause but my grow failed.
Instead of trashing it, I took it out in the yard and mixed it with cpoo and cased it in loose soil. I'm waiting to see if anything will happen because I had some mycelium that was still untouched. Hoping I can snuff the mold out and regrow the mycelium and see some wild mushrooms in the next few weeks, but I'm not holding my breath. Maybe it simply won't work. Idk... but I'm going to split up my jars into smaller shoeboxes moving forward.
I have more jars colonizing and some ready to pop. Any advice for how to setup a smaller monotub? Want to isolate my grows to see if it's isolated or widespread.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: grammyce]
#28509844 - 10/18/23 06:36 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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People dump their contaminated grows in the yard all the time. It depends on where you live and what the weather is like, but it can produce mushrooms. There's no harm in trying.
You don't have to modify shoeboxes at all, so it's real easy. You can still use a liner, but you don't have to sterilize or even sanitize the liner. Once your spawn is colonized it's pretty resilient. When you have mushrooms approaching the lid you can put an upside-down empty tub on it instead of the lid, or you can put a plastic shopping bag over it. That's about it.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: Kinoko314]
#28509864 - 10/18/23 07:04 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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I think that's my pivot. I have no clue how this grow got contamed. I inspected my cakes inch by inch... I'm so disheartened. Hopefully this shoebox idea will help me transition and observe more closely what's happening. Lesson learned never to use a non-filly colonized cake again. Gotta let them just get 100% through the jar before I birth them. Just got too anxious.
Gonna take my time and see what happens. Ugh... feel so defeated.
Edit: what I wanted to ask was, does the spawn need to be completely covered by the casing? I mean I had some exposed bits that may have been vulnerable. I also put them in my garage which (come to later find out) may have had mold about a year ago.
I just wanna know what to do better to clean up my approach. If it was damned in the cake, I guess it is what it is... but I am starting to think it was a mix of poor procedure and birthing an immature cake.
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: grammyce]
#28510134 - 10/19/23 01:27 AM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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Part of this hobby. Just get another batch cooked and don't experiment With standard procedures until you have done a few runs..
We have all been there, getting anxious, stressed, almost manifestimg trich by looking at the mycelium all the got damn time :p
Here are quiteafew successful trich grows outdoor https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27349372
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: soppos]
#28510294 - 10/19/23 07:42 AM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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Figured it wouldn't hurt, but cooler temps might have a say in it. Luckily we had a smaller hot spell, and it'll stay over 70 here for a while yet.
Appreciate the link. Nice to know I'm in good company here 🙂 Gives me a bit of comfort knowing I could abort sooner and have a chance at a success rate versus trying like hell to save the box and letting the trich spread faster. Hoping my abort pops something soon, but not counting on it. Got some new jars ready for a shoebox!
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Re: Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monos (moved) [Re: grammyce] 1
#28515219 - 10/23/23 12:02 PM (3 months, 4 days ago) |
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This is my first mono and probably my most successful grow I’ve done yet! For a noob, this tek takes out most the guesswork of learning how to dial things in and really helped me learn how to keep surface conditions (passively since I haven’t needed to do anything for the first flush anyway Lol) optimal. Thanks Pasty!
Orissa India (from spore print) spawned to bulk on Oct 2nd and saw my first pins on the 15th. last pic is from the 22nd.



Pic through pasty’s optional glory hole 😂

Had a bit of a rolling flush from the front to back (backside didn’t get pins in until a week after the front side). Is this typical with MS or does it have more to do with evenness of substrate and or lighting? It definitely seems denser where the light was hitting it better (I’ve since changed my lighting to directly over top).
One thing I was wondering about is the fuzzy feet though. Do these look like they’re getting enough FAE? I have all holes plus the optional holes on the short sides.
Now to try taking a few clones out of this and see if I can improve it further. I was thinking I’d do the two circled clusters below but I also don’t know what I’m doing lol. any recommendations?
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