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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #28502508 - 10/12/23 09:50 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)



Soo one of the pictures they tried to say was "proof" of the decapitated babies story turned out to be an AI generated image. Lololol.

That one can definitely be chalked up to being Israeli propaganda.

I must say, I am seriously disappointed and disgusted by the response of pretty much the entire US political class to the events in Israel. They are all pretty much jumping on the bandwagon and lining up behind Israel, without a care in the world for how decades of Israeli oppression being what caused this, and using it to justify even more Israeli oppression and killing. It is sickening.

Even politicians who I thought were half-decent like Tulsi Gabbard are saying shit like we must "Stand with Israel." Seriously? Get fucked. To "stand with Israel" means to endorse the mass slaughter of 2 million Palestinians, it means to legitimize their genocide and it means to continue ignoring the long list of Israeli crimes against humanity that motivated people to join Hamas and do this in the first place. Tulsi had so much potential and she fucking blew it.

You cannot achieve peace without holding BOTH sides accountable for their crimes, not just unfairly blaming one side, something which only perpetuates the conflict for eternity and contributes to the feelings of hatred and injustice that plague the region.

It's a level of fervor and bloodlust not seen since 9/11. And just like 9/11, the rhetoric is just as half-baked and ignorant and stupid. "To right the wrong Hamas committed, we must slaughter Palestinian women and children, and perpetuate the cycle of violence and hatred even longer!"

Yeah, fucking brilliant. What a bunch of geniuses. Truly a nation brimming with wise and compassionate leaders. /s

The leadership vacuum in the USA is so fucking bad it's almost unbelievable. We have nobody who isn't a moron anywhere close to a position of power. Not a single fucking person. HOW in a nation of 300+ million people have we failed to produce even just ONE truly great leader?!

The only silver lining is that the massive hypocrisy of the Western world and their idiotic governance is now on full display for the entire world to see. Less than two years after having condemned Russia for their invasion, these same bottom feeding scum are now lining up to cheer on a modern day genocide in Gaza many times worse than anything Russia has ever inflicted on civilians in Ukraine.

When this pathetic clown show that we call "the West" inevitably comes crashing down, thanks to its own stupidity and double standards, the entire world will rejoice. I personally cannot wait.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
    #28502515 - 10/12/23 09:54 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

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I don’t the think they intend to send troops into northern Gaza. I suspect they intend to carpet bomb it





Curious why you think that?  Because it's less chance of getting Israeli casualties?

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28502523 - 10/12/23 10:00 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

why would anyone make AI images of 'overcooked' brisket? and if thats brisket it looks like shit. shouldnt an AI make a better brisket?

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy] * 2
    #28502542 - 10/12/23 10:10 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

US politicians, including the president, loudly "Stand with Israel" for many reasons.

But one of them is that they're declaring sides in Israel's proxy war with Iran.

They're not moving carrier groups in to shell Gaza. They're doing it to warn all the neighbors to stay in their houses.

And like the cold war, neither side is particularly pressed about any atrocities or human rights abuses that their client states might perpetrate.

I bet it'll be a minute before Biden mentions his concerns about Israel's judicial reform again. Assuming he ever gets around to it.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #28502577 - 10/12/23 10:44 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

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NYT reporting the same.

Welp, now Israel is a genocidal apartheid state, not just an apartheid state.

SirTripALot: This is exactly what I meant by overreaction earlier. The UN is already calling this a humanitarian disaster.




This is going to be a slaughter. And no one in power will care.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28502582 - 10/12/23 10:47 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

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Quote:

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I don’t the think they intend to send troops into northern Gaza. I suspect they intend to carpet bomb it





Curious why you think that?  Because it's less chance of getting Israeli casualties?




I think I’ve changed my mind on that. Seemed like not enough time to get the reservists up and running, but regular army will probably be enough


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: B Traven]
    #28502584 - 10/12/23 10:48 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

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US politicians, including the president, loudly "Stand with Israel" for many reasons.

But one of them is that they're declaring sides in Israel's proxy war with Iran.

They're not moving carrier groups in to shell Gaza. They're doing it to warn all the neighbors to stay in their houses.

And like the cold war, neither side is particularly pressed about any atrocities or human rights abuses that their client states might perpetrate.

I bet it'll be a minute before Biden mentions his concerns about Israel's judicial reform again. Assuming he ever gets around to it.




Probably because those domestic issues in Israel are gone for now.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #28502593 - 10/12/23 10:54 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

I seriously doubt the state department will support Israel doing blatant war crime stuff you people are insane :facepalm:

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28502595 - 10/12/23 10:58 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

We'll see.  I hope you're correct.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #28502606 - 10/12/23 11:06 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

Egypt has completely rejected opening their border to refugees from Gaza, though they say they'll facilitate a corridor to deliver aid.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #28502617 - 10/12/23 11:13 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

I keep thinking what this is actually going to play out like. The rhetoric and initial response from Israel seems insanely militant and sounds quite ominous. Hopefully they cool off a bit and are just able to pull some kind of major security operation and that's all it goes to. I think iran is probably just as freaked out as anyone about this and anytime I've seen stuff of them talking about shit behind closed doors their number one thing seems to be not to do anything to fuck up and give the west an excuse to do what they did in Iraq to them and fuck up thier shit and what not. I don't think the other regional players want to get involved all that much either unless something truly egregious happens but with all the crazy stuff we've seen countries do recently or any precived weakness on the part of Israel or the west and shit could really pop off.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Skellies]
    #28502618 - 10/12/23 11:14 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

They may be sounding like psychopaths so when they are not quite as psychopathic as expected, they can say “see that wasn’t so bad”

Netanyahu’s government is getting a little shaky. Someone resigned from his cabinet today.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28502622 - 10/12/23 11:17 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

You have to remember Egypt is dealing with thier own set of bullshit at the moment. They've also have a much more progressive and friendly relationship with Israel after burying the hatchets in the past and don't stand to gain anything at all by supporting terrorist on the world stage.:shrug:

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #28502628 - 10/12/23 11:22 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

Yeah everything I've seen from the Israeli people is they're fucking pissed that they're Maga type nutjob people threw peace out the window and put everyone's lives into chaos and jeopardy. Really this is just like a small minority of right wing religious nutjobs on all sides pumping shitloads of money and throwing a shitload of gas on the fire. Hell even in trumps speech he was like nobody loves Israel more than evangelical Christians and we love them or something. Hell alot this is from bullshit idiotic policies and rhetoric from the trump administration pandering to fundamental chirstian nutjobs with no clue as to the actual situation over there cuz thyere who donate all the money to all his shit. even tho I hate to be the guy pointing that out.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #28502636 - 10/12/23 11:27 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

You shouldn't hate being the one to point it out.
Education is important, and you're doing your part.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28502639 - 10/12/23 11:33 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

I actually think what they are intending to do is sweep through an abandoned northern half of Gaza, destroying anything that could be connected to hamas and its ability to wage war. When that operation is done, they will require everyone in the south half to evacuate, presumably into north Gaza and they will do the same sweep.

Anyone remaining in these active zones will be treated as enemy


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28502640 - 10/12/23 11:34 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

Don't forget Jared kushner and Ivanka were incharge of peace in the middle east it seems like it's working out great


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #28502642 - 10/12/23 11:37 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

That sounds so technical.
I would be surprised if they do that.
I have a less optimistic guess at what they'll do: they will send in the troops into northern Gaza and kill anyone who hasn't left.  And they'll destroy any Hamas resources. 
Then Israel will rebuild that area and never let the Gaza people move back in.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28502645 - 10/12/23 11:43 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

The fact is there's 2 million people or whatever there and they can't exactly push them into the sea the whole world is watching. We also have to remember there's alot of shakey deals on the table with regional Muslim powered like UAE the Saudi quatar behrian and others who recently have been pushing for more peaceful and stable relations with Israel but aren't gonna stand for any kinda malarkey.

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28502646 - 10/12/23 11:44 PM (7 months, 1 day ago)

Yes exactly they are going to go in a kill anyone who hasn’t left. Apparently there is a lot of hidden and underground Hamas infrastructure and I think they intend to methodically clear it all out. I don’t think they’re going to indiscriminately destroy civilian infrastructure. They don’t want to leave millions of people homeless at the end of this process.


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