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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28501827 - 10/12/23 03:22 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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That this human filth, despicable, without compassion and morality, the miserable squatter of the damned and his pissing trio, who together with her violent Hebrew gang caused the most horrific disaster for the Jewish people since the holocaust, prepare herself because this is what awaits her at least until she is prosecuted for her crimes.. May God only know sorrow And pain every day of her despised life
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Wow! Another Israeli minister, this time Transport Minister Miri Regev, violently chased away from a Tel Aviv hospital...
https://twitter.com/meir_marciano/status/1712431451281436900?s=46&t=v6A7MSXUAx3KM0glMf5Wdg
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#28501885 - 10/12/23 04:06 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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Kryptos said: According to Star Trek, we should be heading into the Bell Riots this upcoming year.
So we're actually pretty on schedule.
an uprising within a walled off district...

although its not san fran.. but still.
gene roddenberry knew his shit.
Yeah I think the US-centrism was really the only thing wrong about Star Trek.
Although, that might be because I've been reading wildly foreign sci-fi lately, and of course everyone puts the epicenter in their own home country. Which sometimes makes sense, when it's like, Beijing or something. But when the big center of alien contact is like, Johannesburg...wut?
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: koods] 1
#28501889 - 10/12/23 04:08 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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This is why it sucks to see innocent Israelis killed. There are good people who strongly oppose the way the regime treats Palestinians, and when that regime pours gas on the fire and Israelis get killed, that same regime says “see?! This is why we need to genocide even harder.”
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
#28501895 - 10/12/23 04:11 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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Kryptos said: Although, that might be because I've been reading wildly foreign sci-fi lately
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
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#28501905 - 10/12/23 04:16 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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reminds me of JM productions putting 'we will never forget' messages before every movie after 9/11 for a few months.
jm productions makes fine films series like gag factor and white trash whore
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any examples?? 
Three Body Problem trilogy is by far the best thing I've read recently. Reminds me of Asimov. Actually has some crazy new thoughts and ideas.
And is also pretty misogynistic, for that true Asimov feel.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
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I’ve been watching the Foundation adaptation on Apple TV. It’s pretty good, they try to make it inclusive but the misogyny is built in lol
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
#28501952 - 10/12/23 04:40 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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I have heard many agrue that this was a nesscary and also a PR win from Hamas. From what I can gather, this has severely damaged the cheese and vilon, cry me a river for the Palestinians plight type shit.
Maybe it was a mistake to vote in Hamas? I know they shut down elections after that, but hey, this a a fine example of a reputable government that has done wonders for its people. Who wouldn't want another theocratic government that treat most of its citizens as subhuman? I mean it's totally justified to primarily attack civilians in thier quest for a Palestinian state. That brings so much credence to their cause.
If anything, it appears that the absolute wrong stances that Israel has taken seems alot more palatable to people on the fence. Good job guys, you just gave Israel a pass on the things that should have changed, but I understand that primarily attacking civilians was the smart choice to force this issue and draw attention to all those settlements, you only had three decades to come up with a plan. Let's see how all the friendly Middle Eastern countries will accept the refuges, I am sure they will....its not like the Palestinians haven't been kicked out before.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: I’ve been watching the Foundation adaptation on Apple TV. It’s pretty good, they try to make it inclusive but the misogyny is built in lol
Is it like the books? I know no movie can, but is it close?
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: SirTripAlot]
#28501993 - 10/12/23 05:00 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: I’ve been watching the Foundation adaptation on Apple TV. It’s pretty good, they try to make it inclusive but the misogyny is built in lol
Is it like the books? I know no movie can, but is it close?
It’s been a decade since I read the books but I think they do a pretty good job with the tv adaptation. There’s currently two seasons, I’m halfway through the latter one.
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#28502009 - 10/12/23 05:12 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: I have heard many agrue that this was a nesscary and also a PR win from Hamas. From what I can gather, this has severely damaged the cheese and vilon, cry me a river for the Palestinians plight type shit.
Maybe it was a mistake to vote in Hamas? I know they shut down elections after that, but hey, this a a fine example of a reputable government that has done wonders for its people. Who wouldn't want another theocratic government that treat most of its citizens as subhuman? I mean it's totally justified to primarily attack civilians in thier quest for a Palestinian state. That brings so much credence to their cause.
If anything, it appears that the absolute wrong stances that Israel has taken seems alot more palatable to people on the fence. Good job guys, you just gave Israel a pass on the things that should have changed, but I understand that primarily attacking civilians was the smart choice to force this issue and draw attention to all those settlements, you only had three decades to come up with a plan. Let's see how all the friendly Middle Eastern countries will accept the refuges, I am sure they will....its not like the Palestinians haven't been kicked out before.
I don't think we are the intended target.
Seems to be an unironically pretty big PR win across Palestine and Israel, though. That's the whole purpose of a resistance movement. A resistance isn't there to topple a ruling regime, the resistance exists to create fear among the ruling regime, and force the ruling regime to make progressively stupider mistakes.
That's why killing Reinhard Heydrich, for example, was a priority for the WWII resistance. Everybody knew it was a one way mission, everybody knew the nazis were gonna massacre civilians in reprisal...but the point was to reach out and touch a Nazi official. It was a reminder that the nazis were not safe, that they would never be safe as long as they stayed in occupied territory.
Hamas just proved that no matter how much the US funds Israel, no matter how much time they spend building the most complex security apparatus this side of the CCP, it doesn't matter. Hamas can land fucking paratroopers in the suburbs of Tel Aviv anyway.
The location of the attacks, I think, underscores this. Hamas didn't strike where they usually do, along the border. No, they hit right in the heart of Israel. They hit the people who live in the "safe" areas, far from Palestine.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: I’ve been watching the Foundation adaptation on Apple TV. It’s pretty good, they try to make it inclusive but the misogyny is built in lol
Is it like the books? I know no movie can, but is it close?
It’s been a decade since I read the books but I think they do a pretty good job with the tv adaptation. There’s currently two seasons, I’m halfway through the latter one.
I'll have to take a look, then. Foundation was my all time favorite, and I heard it had been butchered.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
#28502017 - 10/12/23 05:18 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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My biggest gripe is the casting they did for Cleon, the acting just seems so forced.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
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If that is the case of this resistance, Hamas has diametrically failed in my opinion. They have given Israel a blank check to cash at will, and most won't bat an eye. It will take another 3 decades to even come back from this. I will eat crow if need be, but I belive Hamas, in its current and future form will fade with a whimper.
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#28502028 - 10/12/23 05:27 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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Were any of y’all alive in 2018?
The Palestinians tried non-violence. They went to the fence every day to cook food and sing songs and protest the occupation. Israel shot like 10,000 of them.
It’s either die slow or fight back. To paraphrase Stokley Carmichael: for non-violence to work, your opponent needs a conscience.
Israel never gave peace a chance. And why would they? They’ve been importing Jews from all over the world (even non-Jews), exterminating/deporting Palestinians to refugee camps where they are never legally allowed to return to Palestine, and building settlements out the ass overtop the rubble of Palestinian neighborhoods and they’re STILL the minority population. Democracy and due process and abiding by international law in Israel/Palestine means Palestinians are actually granted power. Can’t have that.
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#28502047 - 10/12/23 05:40 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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The original Star Trek was kind of a Cold War parable, right?
I'm sure that frustration led people in Gaza to vote for Hamas, to whatever extent they actually did of their own free will and without pressure (and really, who the fuck knows?). But there was also internecine fighting, people getting thrown off roofs, and just the isolated nature of Gaza itself.
Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel and the establishment of an Islamic state. If they become politically irrelevant, or soft, or even just lose control of their population, they're done for. No more support, popular or otherwise. No more Jihad money rolling in.
It's like asking whether Putin cares that he's dragging Russia into dangerous territory. No, of course he doesn't. The only thing that matters is that he stays in charge.
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#28502057 - 10/12/23 05:47 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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@ B traven
Some aspects of parts of a number of the series harp on it big time, amongst other things wrt earth-life today, the past, and potential future. But, in short - yeah - the theme is there throughout var. series. 
@ kryptos
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