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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Tulipslave]
#28554920 - 11/24/23 11:39 AM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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The first group of Hamas hostages has been released.
"Hamas fighters released 24 hostages on Friday during the first day of the war's first truce, including Israeli women and children and Thai farm workers"
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-start-first-truce-gaza-war-2023-11-24/
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Idk people keep throwing around buzzwords arguing about the ability to genocide or apartheid. But it's like is any of that actually going on here in reality or is this just more people going wacko hyped up on bullshit propaganda buzzwords? I mean wtf is wrong with you people get a grip. It's like people just started paying attention to this shit when it comes to the point of having to pull some routine special military operation
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But it's like is any of that actually going on here in reality or is this just more people going wacko hyped up on bullshit propaganda buzzwords? I mean wtf is wrong with you people get a grip. It's like people just started paying attention to this shit
Whew.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28555036 - 11/24/23 01:37 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Hezbollah has some real firepower.
If they get fully involved, eek!
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28555049 - 11/24/23 01:56 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Do they have the ability to genocide?
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof] 2
#28555079 - 11/24/23 02:28 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: 24 hours into the ceasefire and IDF are shooting at Palestinian families returning to (what’s left of) their homes.
https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/1727981396839330286?s=46&t=NCHEHEdgn4yG76LKXrSTrw
I feel so bad for those people :-(
What a horrible existence... And most of them are children. I wish there was something I could do.
Woof have you rallied at all?
I went with a friend and held a sign while screaming at the shrinks and scientists, lawyers and bankers in the booshy town over. It made me feel a little better.
Also, and this is a general reminder that goes out to anyone (including my friend and I)- take breaks and protect your health by showing restraint while immersing into something with this level of complex and intensity.
And yes Ecstatic, definitely knew Israel was going to break the ceasefire.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Do they have the ability to genocide?
Not sure, but they could do a heck of a lot more damage than hamas.
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Though Hezbollah's light infantry and anti-tank squads are well-regarded, Hezbollah as a whole is "quantitatively and qualitatively" weaker than the Israel Defense Forces.
Sources generally agree that Hezbollah's strength in conventional warfare compares favorably to state militaries in the Arab world. A 2009 review concluded that Hezbollah was "a well-trained, well-armed, highly motivated, and highly evolved war-fighting machine" and "the only Arab or Muslim entity to successfully face the Israelis in combat.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28555092 - 11/24/23 02:41 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Hezbollah entering the mix would be a much more significant problem than Hamas ever was or could be.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
#28555430 - 11/24/23 08:01 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Hezbollah makes a certified rush, instant US response. They definitely are more capable than Hamas but in no way could take on both Iseral and the US. Why you think they have just been talking about "their brothers in Palastine" (with all but token bottle rockets)? All sizzle no steak.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: SirTripAlot]
#28555431 - 11/24/23 08:02 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: SirTripAlot]
#28555460 - 11/24/23 08:52 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Hezbollah would be stupid to join in the full war, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do, especially since Hamas was so foolish in starting this war. Birds of a flock fly together.
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Isreal is hated by practically every country in the region, Why would you think it be stupid to join? Its an inevitable outcome, today or tomorrow This might be the time. Maybe not. But definitely posssible.
That might be the strike to start a world war. Ill admit I dont know what constitutes a world war. Is it a certain # of any countries or do like the top 2,3,4 need to be involved?
I'm surprised to see I relate to a handful of opinions here, so far
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Yeatster]
#28555619 - 11/25/23 04:49 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Yeatster said: Isreal is hated by practically every country in the region, Why would you think it be stupid to join? Its an inevitable outcome, today or tomorrow This might be the time. Maybe not. But definitely posssible.
That might be the strike to start a world war. Ill admit I dont know what constitutes a world war. Is it a certain # of any countries or do like the top 2,3,4 need to be involved?
I'm surprised to see I relate to a handful of opinions here, so far
It's weird to be in agreement with so many people around here, huh? lol
It's "Israel" btw.
That is an interesting point. I suppose war with Israel is probably an inevitability for countries in the region. How crazy to think that all of these Arab nations actually have a just-cause, and America is supporting the genocidal apartheid state.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Yeatster]
#28555652 - 11/25/23 05:53 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Yeatster said: Isreal is hated by practically every country in the region,
That's an overstatement. You can pretty much gauge how much any of those countries hate or doesn't hate Israel based on their relations with the U.S.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Brian Jones]
#28555685 - 11/25/23 06:35 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Yeatster said: Isreal is hated by practically every country in the region,
That's an overstatement. You can pretty much gauge how much any of those countries hate or doesn't hate Israel based on their relations with the U.S.
You mean how much the pretend not to hate Israel?
I think hatred for Israel extends far beyond the Middle East, at this point.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Brian Jones]
#28555704 - 11/25/23 06:59 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Just look to how the neighbors welcomed them when Israel became a nation.
Can't help but think there are some sore tensions on both sides proceeding The Nakba.
Have had my eye on Hezbollah for a while. And do feel if a straw broke, many of the surrounding entities would have no problem saying "fvk the usa, I'm going home".
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#28555913 - 11/25/23 10:38 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said:How crazy to think that all of these Arab nations actually have a just-cause, and America is supporting the genocidal apartheid state.
What is this "just-cause" that all of these Arab nations have?
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Nations probably don't care just like businesses don't care, they have a job to do and for countries, it is probably about power when dealing with other countries. Arab countries may have a natural affinity for people they understand but don't let it get in the way of what is good for them individually.
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The release of the second batch of hostages by Hamas has been delayed, with Hamas saying, "The release of the second round of hostages to be delayed until Israel commits to the terms of the agreement — allowing aid trucks into the north of Gaza."
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/25/1215176593/gaza-israel-hostages-palestinian-prisoners-release
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Yeah that statement is just insane. There's basically two main factions of Arab nations here regarding this. There's the majority that just want stability in the region and to modernize rather than break long standing international agreements and treaties to fight a hundreds year old holy war genocide. Then there's the other side the axis of evil that consistently breaks peace treaties, sponsors terrorism, and seeks to obtain weapons of mass destruction and world domination through the death or conversion in a crusade against all non-Muslims(infidels) and heretics(sunni) like bad wolf here supports.
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