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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
    #28553005 - 11/22/23 04:14 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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sudly said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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sudly said:
I don't think anyone is underestimating what Hamas can do






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sudly said:
Hamas doesn't have the capacity to do genocide





You contradicted yourself.




You ommited what I said.





Yes, because it doesn't make sense.
Here is all of what you said in context of my quoting of you:




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sudly said:
Hamas doesn't have the capacity to do genocide, Israel does.



 
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sudly said:
I don't think anyone is underestimating what Hamas can do, just being aware of what overestimating it is.

I doubt the 4 days will go without someone's finger hitting the trigger and escalating further. With some weaksauce excuse that can't really be disproven 100% because of the fog of war etc.




My statement still stands: "you contradicted yourself."
If "just being aware of what overestimating it is" somehow alludes to you not contradicting yourself then can you please explain that because it doesn't make sense to me.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: birdeatingspider] * 1
    #28553010 - 11/22/23 04:19 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

Not busy enough to be a significant threat, it appears, because apart from those 2-3 skirmishes I don't hear much about them.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. I am sure that once Israel finishes their ethnic cleansing of Palestine, they will turn their eyes North. And West.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #28553012 - 11/22/23 04:19 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Quote:

sudly said:
Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Quote:

sudly said:
I don't think anyone is underestimating what Hamas can do






Quote:

sudly said:
Hamas doesn't have the capacity to do genocide





You contradicted yourself.




You ommited what I said.





Yes, because it doesn't make sense.
Here is all of what you said in context of my quoting of you:




Quote:

sudly said:
Hamas doesn't have the capacity to do genocide, Israel does.



 
Quote:

sudly said:
I don't think anyone is underestimating what Hamas can do, just being aware of what overestimating it is.

I doubt the 4 days will go without someone's finger hitting the trigger and escalating further. With some weaksauce excuse that can't really be disproven 100% because of the fog of war etc.




My statement still stands: "you contradicted yourself."
If "just being aware of what overestimating it is" somehow alludes to you not contradicting yourself then can you please explain that because it doesn't make sense to me.




Are you implying that Hamas is fully capable of a complete genocide of Israel, and they just...choose not to?


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28553037 - 11/22/23 04:48 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

Israel announced they're delaying the ceasefire.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #28553100 - 11/22/23 05:47 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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Another terrorist organization. I think their occasional contributions are worth mentioning, but I don't see them playing a massive role yet.

I guess there's a distinction to be made, which is already made, between a terrorist organization and a rogue state. One is capable of inflicting significant harm, the other is not.

Though Hezbollah definitely has more operational capacity than Hamas. I guessing that's why they are being cautious.




Hezbollah is not a terrorist group. You could think of them as a Lebanese self-defense group.

And no, killing occupying soldiers on your land with car bombs or w/e does not count as terrorism.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
    #28553105 - 11/22/23 05:50 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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Hezbollah is not a terrorist group. You could think of them as a Lebanese self-defense group.

And no, killing occupying soldiers on your land with car bombs or w/e does not count as terrorism.



So Ukraine was/is entirely justified in murdering all the orcs in the Donbas region.
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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #28553193 - 11/22/23 07:24 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

Ukraine murdered many thousands of civilians since 2014, even before Russia invaded. Unlike Russia, who has only killed civilians during combat operations aimed at the Ukrainian army, they did it deliberately because they were "traitors". Now that definitely is terrorism.

Thank you though for pointing out that fucking Hezbollah is less of a terrorist group than the Ukrainian military.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28553232 - 11/22/23 07:57 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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https://twitter.com/realrobdurden/status/1725612273778004362

Daaayum... The BBC is calling out Israel. This is crazy.

Israel doesn't understand that their whole existence relies on managing PR, and they are fucking it up royally.



Neither does the Democratic Party. I don't know what's going through President Sad Sack's head because there's a significant number of voters who are now refusing to vote for him and he's doing nothing to address that. He's made no effort to justify the war or the high death count and he won't even pretend he's looking for a peaceful solution.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28553233 - 11/22/23 07:57 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Quote:

sudly said:
Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Quote:

sudly said:
I don't think anyone is underestimating what Hamas can do






Quote:

sudly said:
Hamas doesn't have the capacity to do genocide





You contradicted yourself.




You ommited what I said.





Yes, because it doesn't make sense.
Here is all of what you said in context of my quoting of you:




Quote:

sudly said:
Hamas doesn't have the capacity to do genocide, Israel does.



 
Quote:

sudly said:
I don't think anyone is underestimating what Hamas can do, just being aware of what overestimating it is.

I doubt the 4 days will go without someone's finger hitting the trigger and escalating further. With some weaksauce excuse that can't really be disproven 100% because of the fog of war etc.




My statement still stands: "you contradicted yourself."
If "just being aware of what overestimating it is" somehow alludes to you not contradicting yourself then can you please explain that because it doesn't make sense to me.




I'd rather not spoon feed you..

Do you think Hamas could overthrow Israel?


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
    #28553244 - 11/22/23 08:07 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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I'd rather not spoon feed you..





Spoon feed me?!  What are you talking about?
You can't keep up with this conversation, I see.
I said you contradicted yourself.
You said I omitted what you said.
I showed what you said and said that you still contradicted yourself; I asked you to please show me how the entirety of your posts in context change the initial claim I said of you contradicting yourself.
But you aren't able to... you have to change the subject and claim you are being manipulated into spoon feeding me... whatever, dude.

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Edited by lifeiswhatyoumake (11/22/23 08:09 PM)


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
    #28553249 - 11/22/23 08:10 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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Do you think Hamas could overthrow Israel?






Probably not, especially since the USA supports Israel. 
But Israel is like the 14th strongest military in the world or something, so they're fine.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kizzle]
    #28553295 - 11/22/23 09:05 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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Kizzle said:
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Bigbadwooof said:
https://twitter.com/realrobdurden/status/1725612273778004362

Daaayum... The BBC is calling out Israel. This is crazy.

Israel doesn't understand that their whole existence relies on managing PR, and they are fucking it up royally.



Neither does the Democratic Party. I don't know what's going through President Sad Sack's head because there's a significant number of voters who are now refusing to vote for him and he's doing nothing to address that. He's made no effort to justify the war or the high death count and he won't even pretend he's looking for a peaceful solution.




I don't entirely believe that a significant number of democrats are walking away from Biden due to the situation in Israel. While some people might be swayed, this particular situation reeks of astroturf. Addressing it head on only gives it legitimacy.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kizzle]
    #28553300 - 11/22/23 09:10 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Quote:

Kizzle said:
Quote:

Bigbadwooof said:
https://twitter.com/realrobdurden/status/1725612273778004362

Daaayum... The BBC is calling out Israel. This is crazy.

Israel doesn't understand that their whole existence relies on managing PR, and they are fucking it up royally.



Neither does the Democratic Party. I don't know what's going through President Sad Sack's head because there's a significant number of voters who are now refusing to vote for him and he's doing nothing to address that. He's made no effort to justify the war or the high death count and he won't even pretend he's looking for a peaceful solution.




Biden has deteriorated to the point that he's not doing anything. Everything he says and does is carefully curated by his handlers. He might as well be a drone. A drone with a nasty habit of saying inappropriate shit to foreign leaders, and people from the "third world", when addressing them.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Ice9]
    #28553301 - 11/22/23 09:12 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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Ice9 said:
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Hezbollah is not a terrorist group. You could think of them as a Lebanese self-defense group.

And no, killing occupying soldiers on your land with car bombs or w/e does not count as terrorism.



So Ukraine was/is entirely justified in murdering all the orcs in the Donbas region.
:nodofunderstanding:




This is the most wackadoo response I've read in a bit lol...

2+2 = Hole.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28553323 - 11/22/23 09:33 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

It sounds like the plan was for hostages to be released Thursday at 10 AM but that has now been pushed to Friday...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/22/israel-hamas-war-news-hostages-gaza-palestine/


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28553385 - 11/22/23 10:43 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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It sounds like the plan was for hostages to be released Thursday at 10 AM but that has now been pushed to Friday...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/22/israel-hamas-war-news-hostages-gaza-palestine/




Israel doesn't give a fuck about the hostages. If they did, they'd have them back already, instead of lobbing bombs at them.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28553386 - 11/22/23 10:47 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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sudly said:
Do you think Hamas could overthrow Israel?






Probably not, especially since the USA supports Israel. 
But Israel is like the 14th strongest military in the world or something, so they're fine.




Cool, so what are you crying about? 

You don't appear to disagree that Hamas doesn't have the capacity to genocide Israel, while Israel does have the capacity to do so to Hamas and the Palestinians.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
    #28553409 - 11/22/23 11:31 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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sudly said:
Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Quote:

sudly said:
Do you think Hamas could overthrow Israel?






Probably not, especially since the USA supports Israel. 
But Israel is like the 14th strongest military in the world or something, so they're fine.




Cool, so what are you crying about? 

You don't appear to disagree that Hamas doesn't have the capacity to genocide Israel, while Israel does have the capacity to do so to Hamas and the Palestinians.





I'm crying?  What?  You aren't making much sense.
Any armed group can commit genocide if they aren't stopped...


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #28553411 - 11/22/23 11:34 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

So are you contradicting yourself and saying hamas can commit genocide of israelis now or what?


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: sudly]
    #28553413 - 11/22/23 11:36 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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So are you contradicting yourself and saying hamas can commit genocide of israelis now or what?







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