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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 3
    #28551173 - 11/21/23 07:26 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)



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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28551179 - 11/21/23 07:29 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)



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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28551180 - 11/21/23 07:30 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Can someone explain this, who is this man? Some extremist, or is this the voice of the Israelis. I think not. The Cradle?
https://twitter.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1725873721561231443


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28551184 - 11/21/23 07:33 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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Sure, I could have looked it up, but I chose to ask them for their source because I was curious.




What do you think the word curious means?




Ahahahaaa....

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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28551185 - 11/21/23 07:34 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)



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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #28551186 - 11/21/23 07:36 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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Can someone explain this, who is this man? Some extremist, or is this the voice of the Israelis. I think not. The Cradle?
https://twitter.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1725873721561231443




The beginning of the tweet says Israel Channel 14 host Shai Golden.

The Cradle is an independent media outlet that focuses on events in Israel and Palestine.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28551193 - 11/21/23 07:43 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Thanks my phone screen is cracked but my focus is the subtitles.
Independent? Seems they picked a side.

This tirade doesn't concern anyone else?


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #28551194 - 11/21/23 07:46 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Not really, they're reporting on the words said by Israeli news.

Just happens to be that Israeli news are pretty clearly pro-genocide, and make no attempts to hide their intentions.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: birdeatingspider] * 1
    #28551203 - 11/21/23 07:51 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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This tirade doesn't concern anyone else?




far less than bush jr saying ...

Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists

similar scary talk:blah:


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
    #28551213 - 11/21/23 07:59 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Okay so no one should be afraid of particular people reusing the word 'vermin'.


https://twitter.com/NewLeftEViews/status/1726312649120686154
Still reading this translation of Giora Eiland's intent for genocide.
Have not researched further on this yet.


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    #28551219 - 11/21/23 08:06 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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Okay so no one should be afraid of particular people reusing the word 'vermin'.





no its how we know people are serious.

not sure how you drew those parallels but whatever.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #28551247 - 11/21/23 08:32 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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Yes, civilians are non-combat by definition.
And true, I'm sure some airstrikes have missed their target and hit civilians, unfortunately.

There's talks of a ceasefire potentially coming to fruition any hour... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/white-house-says-israel-hamas-hostage-deal-closer-than-before-2023-11-21/



It's not that the strikes are missing. It's that there are civilians at the places they're attacking. Hamas doesn't keep their weapon caches confined to bases. They stash them in civilian areas to deter them from being destroyed. The only way to win a war is to destroy the weapons so there are going to be a lot of deaths because of this.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kizzle] * 1
    #28551265 - 11/21/23 08:44 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Biden and Netanyahu are gonna steal recently discovered natural gas in Gaza under the guise of a “revitalization plan.”


https://x.com/haaretzcom/status/1726808905131401549?s=46&t=NCHEHEdgn4yG76LKXrSTrw


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kizzle]
    #28551266 - 11/21/23 08:44 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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Kizzle said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Yes, civilians are non-combat by definition.
And true, I'm sure some airstrikes have missed their target and hit civilians, unfortunately.

There's talks of a ceasefire potentially coming to fruition any hour... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/white-house-says-israel-hamas-hostage-deal-closer-than-before-2023-11-21/



It's not that the strikes are missing. It's that there are civilians at the places they're attacking. Hamas doesn't keep their weapon caches confined to bases. They stash them in civilian areas to deter them from being destroyed. The only way to win a war is to destroy the weapons so there are going to be a lot of deaths because of this.






Has there been undeniable proof of this?

Or is this something else Israeli officials/IDF are claiming?


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28551267 - 11/21/23 08:46 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

well to be fair off shore isnt 'in gaza'.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #28551273 - 11/21/23 08:48 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

It’s part of Gaza’s territory, but yeah.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
    #28551303 - 11/21/23 09:06 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Not trying to derail, and haven't had my coffee/meds yet. Its a big thought I need to edit down for everyone's sake.

Just want to point out that translated doc I posted compares Gaza to Nazi Germany.
Which solidifies my view. From the very beginning, have been saying that this is a case of generational trauma for Israel (and Gaza).

The total overuse of weapons, not to mention they have their own ghetto cool.
This is payback they never got against the Nazis. Don't discount the power of validation.

Which circles me back to Trump saying vermin, a term we all know Hitler was affectionate for.
Is that worth concern, in comparison to both Nazi germany and now Israel's call for cleansing, or bush saying your with us or them, or when bin laden said all americans must die..

Are you saying this simply means they're serious, is all?
Mere saber rattling.

Trump quotes belong in that thread, but was trying to help clarify my parallels.  Can't say I did, okay.
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but whatever


nevermind.



Will forever recall vividly, seeing Bush jr delivering that message. Especially due to my proximity, everyone here really wanted blood, and perhaps i was a naive barely young adult, but I needed blood too.

It goes to show how influential the things around you can be. An open air prison lasting decades, being dependent on my captors as a child, adult, parent, growing up and having kids in same conditions.. I told my staunch pro biden father that I would be uprising. I would have initially voted hamas into power out of desperation.

And I'd like to know who wouldn't?


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Tulipslave] * 1
    #28551318 - 11/21/23 09:20 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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Kizzle said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Yes, civilians are non-combat by definition.
And true, I'm sure some airstrikes have missed their target and hit civilians, unfortunately.

There's talks of a ceasefire potentially coming to fruition any hour... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/white-house-says-israel-hamas-hostage-deal-closer-than-before-2023-11-21/



It's not that the strikes are missing. It's that there are civilians at the places they're attacking. Hamas doesn't keep their weapon caches confined to bases. They stash them in civilian areas to deter them from being destroyed. The only way to win a war is to destroy the weapons so there are going to be a lot of deaths because of this.






Has there been undeniable proof of this?

Or is this something else Israeli officials/IDF are claiming?



No proof is undeniable to someone who wants to deny it. Do you deny that Israel tries to evacutate these areas before they attack? Because there's massive evidence of that happening. This isn't because of their great love for the Palastinean people or anything but because Israel isn't stupid. They know civilian deaths cause them to lose support and encourage attacks from other powers and they genuinely try to avoid them.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kizzle]
    #28551346 - 11/21/23 09:51 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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Kizzle said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Yes, civilians are non-combat by definition.
And true, I'm sure some airstrikes have missed their target and hit civilians, unfortunately.

There's talks of a ceasefire potentially coming to fruition any hour... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/white-house-says-israel-hamas-hostage-deal-closer-than-before-2023-11-21/



It's not that the strikes are missing. It's that there are civilians at the places they're attacking. Hamas doesn't keep their weapon caches confined to bases. They stash them in civilian areas to deter them from being destroyed. The only way to win a war is to destroy the weapons so there are going to be a lot of deaths because of this.





Yes, very true.
Hamas are terrorists using civilians as shields.  And Hamas doesn't use soldier uniforms, so they look like civilians.
The whole situation with Hamas and Palestinians stinks to hell.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28551366 - 11/21/23 10:09 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

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Biden and Netanyahu are gonna steal recently discovered natural gas in Gaza under the guise of a “revitalization plan.”


https://x.com/haaretzcom/status/1726808905131401549?s=46&t=NCHEHEdgn4yG76LKXrSTrw




I just saw Jimmy Dore talking about that a couple weeks ago..

It's bad joojoo to discover hydrocarbons on your land, in the middle east..


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