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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28497216 - 10/09/23 01:03 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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Stable Genius said:
List of US politicians as of 2018 with dual citizenship in Israel



Seems like a large representation from one particular party to me  :shrug:



Lmao so every Jewish person is automatically considered a dual citizen of Israel now and automatically has no agency of themselves and must support expanionist zionism? I hate to break it to you - but it's actually often the case American Jew's themselves do not have an all loving view towards Israel's governments actions. Nor do many people within Israel condone them.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28497227 - 10/09/23 01:26 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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Stable Genius said:
So what!
Many Israelis don’t like what their government does to Palestinians.
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bruh that's exactly what I just said

It was in response to an image you posted that generalized every single jewish member of congress as 'holding dual citizenship' - and accusing them of holding conflicted interests by merit of ethnicity.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28499546 - 10/11/23 12:57 AM (3 months, 15 days ago)

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Kryptos said:
If Hamas had used HIMARS I would assume that they were diverted from a shipment to Ukraine. I would not assume that the US supplied the rockets directly and willingly.

While Iran likely does want to arm Hamas, I really don't think they'd be stupid enough to do it directly in a world full of arms dealers and a major war of attrition in Europe, where war materials can quietly disappear and people won't notice.

Actually, having written all of that out...I would assume that these were rockets diverted from the Russian war effort, maybe.

Either way, as with my response to Metoo above, it seems that you are not equally applying your standard across the board. If the presence of Iranian designed weapons can be assumed evidence of Iranian involvement, why does the presence of US designed weapons not imply the same?

If US weapons can be acquired without the explicit blessing of the US, why would that not be true for Iran? Both the US and Iran have robust weapons industries and both countries are prolific exporters of weapons, often through vaguely criminal intermediaries.



The analysis is good n' all but it's fact that Hamas receives the majority of their funding via Iran since 2006 when Saudi Arabia bailed on them.


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