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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Milleresque]
    #28495598 - 10/07/23 03:17 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Ben is gonna get it now.

Nothing like a conflict to bring agreement between rival factors or  unpopular leadership. In today's day in age, any two bit government can string along an ambush like this. If Hamas thinks things are wrong now, just wait.

I could care less for either side as they both dip their wicks in this shit. If I was a betting man, the Palestinians are gonna be in a world of eating more shit sandwiches.


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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28495914 - 10/07/23 09:20 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Meh, them coming to power in 1982 (Hezzzbollla) as a response to Israel's invasion of Beirut during Lebanon's civil war still smells butthurt. Without a doubt, they are stronger now, but mainly in antiquted conventional warfare.

I disagree that this will be worth it to Hamas and their mutual allies. Time will tell, but this isn't some tit for tat, let's just launch some old motars over the border shit and praise the martyrs. I think the response from Israel will be exponentially more damaging.


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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
    #28497121 - 10/08/23 09:15 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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chopstick said:


If anything, the way that the US is responding to the crisis in Israel just lends even more justification to the Russian operation in Ukraine.





That's one hell of a special pleading.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
    #28497610 - 10/09/23 12:45 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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I know you are completely incapable as a human being of recognizing any kind of hypocrisy within anything, and you are happy to be one yourself, but for those of us who actually do care, it's obvious that this conflict makes the US position on Ukraine look like a fucking . joke.





Interesting that you mentioned hypocrisy. Cheerleading for those that cross geographical lines to attack....FIRST, mind you, you got some projection going on buddy. Also read up on logical fallacies it may temper the meth induced blather. The mental gymnastics required for what you pose, with zero evidence adds the cherry on top.


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And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28498027 - 10/09/23 06:31 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

There will be a ground offensive soon.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
    #28498105 - 10/09/23 07:40 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I have heard of all of the  NSFW snuff terrorism videos around. Can't do it....apparently mutilation, rape, beheading are in abundance.

This is indeed a suicide mission from Hamas. Many high ranking Israelis have used the term"rubble" in all of their statements, I believe them. I think everything is on the table but nukes.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Metoo]
    #28498295 - 10/09/23 10:25 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I think its way to early to pick definitive winners and losers. The only success  Hamas has "won" is an ambush. The ramifications are still brewing.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Metoo]
    #28498456 - 10/10/23 04:35 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

When the dust settles, you think the outright targeting of civilians will be a PR boost to Hamas on any entity not orginially associated with them?

The elememt of suprise is universal and a heralded military strategy.... whether  its to break through, envelop, or outflank an enemy on the battlefield. This could be even be a  feint, or a rouse.

The shock of the above has physical and mental attributes associated with it. Pearl Harbor, the Trogan Horse, Trenton, 9/11, etc. The issue I am having is that suprise must overwhelm, demoralize, and put such an operational strain / morale destroying stake through the heart that victory is in grasp. It must also make a furtherance of successful military operations to commence. What is Hamas gonna do now,...what military operation is now in a better position? Execute those taken hostage?

I don't see it here....I think the vast majority of people will back Israeli efforts and possibly bring those on the fence with them.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28498481 - 10/10/23 05:39 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

No doubt, Israel has some soul searching to do. It has come to the point that even Jewish news sites admit this and are highly critical/ want the politics to change regarding Palestine. The status quo gotta change.

So does the rest of the world when it comes to Palestine....this is not just laid at the feet of the Jewish state. Do people realize the Palestinians where kicked out of Jordon and didnt get the West Bank, nothing? The PLO moved to Lebanon....guess what, they didnt stay there either.

How much aid does Palestine get....WTF do they do with it? What about Egypt and their blockade? If the Palestinian authority/ Hamas put as much effort of this attack, into other things....would the Palestinians be in a better position?


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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
    #28498943 - 10/10/23 02:56 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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Done with the full blessing of the US government. You know, because Israel is so special.

Hamas mentioned the other day that they only used 2,000 soldiers for the border raid operation, and that they have some 40,000 more in reserve.

This means Hamas still has a lot of fight left in them and that a potential IDF ground operation into the Gaza strip will be exceptionally difficult to pull off. The IDF is not like Wagner, their ground troops are not that experienced and they are used to their air force doing all the heavy lifting. They will take high casualties in such an operation.

Israel should call off the ground operation and just be sated with killing a few thousand "animals" aka civilians via airstrikes. Otherwise they risk both a failed ground operation that will be both costly and embarrassing and they risk Hezbollah joining the war, which they said they would do incase of a ground operation, and would be nothing short of a catastrophe. Israel will have a very difficult time fighting a war on multiple fronts.




Yeah, a completely unprovoked attack. It would have been better to have a circle of restoration and maybe banter in a focus group. I am certain, if someone started chopping heads in your hometown, you would advocate a more kind, gentle approach.:cookiemonster:


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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: B Traven]
    #28501199 - 10/12/23 06:05 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Seen reports that the airport in Damascus was targeted by the Israelis. There has always been sometype of exchange of fire with Syria, but if true....this is a definite escalation.



https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/syria-state-tv-says-israeli-attack-targets-aleppo-damascus-airports-2023-10-12/

Syria's state television said Israel launched attacks on the main airports in the capital Damascus and the northern city of Aleppo on Thursday.

Local media channel Sham FM said Syrian air defences were launched in response to both attacks. It said here had been damage but no casualties at the Aleppo airport, but did not give any information on the impact of the strike on Damascus Airport.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Asante]
    #28501303 - 10/12/23 07:58 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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Asante said:



:unwanted:




That's about what sums up humans.

If only we would collectively rally on something good as much as something bad.


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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
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And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
    #28501952 - 10/12/23 04:40 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

I have heard many agrue that this was a nesscary and also a PR win from Hamas. From what I can gather, this has severely damaged the cheese and vilon, cry me a river for the Palestinians plight type shit.

Maybe it was a mistake to vote in Hamas? I know they shut down elections after that, but hey, this a a fine example of a reputable government that has done wonders for its people. Who wouldn't want another theocratic government that treat most of its citizens as subhuman? I mean it's totally justified to primarily attack civilians in thier quest for a Palestinian state. That brings so much credence to their cause.

If anything, it appears that the absolute wrong stances that Israel has taken seems alot more palatable to people on the fence. Good job guys, you just gave Israel a pass on the things that should have changed, but I understand that primarily attacking civilians was the smart choice to force this issue and draw attention to all those settlements, you only had three decades to come up with a plan. Let's see how all the friendly Middle Eastern countries will accept the refuges, I am sure they will....its not like the Palestinians haven't been kicked out before.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28501956 - 10/12/23 04:42 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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I’ve been watching the Foundation adaptation on Apple TV. It’s pretty good, they try to make it inclusive but the misogyny is built in lol





Is it like the books? I know no movie can, but is it close?


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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28502025 - 10/12/23 05:22 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

If that is the case of this resistance, Hamas has diametrically failed in my opinion. They have given Israel a blank check to cash at will, and most won't bat an eye. It will take another 3 decades to even come back from this. I will eat crow if need be, but I belive Hamas, in its current and future form will fade with a whimper.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28502168 - 10/12/23 06:55 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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Were any of y’all alive in 2018?

The Palestinians tried non-violence. They went to the fence every day to cook food and sing songs and protest the occupation. Israel shot like 10,000 of them.

It’s either die slow or fight back. To paraphrase Stokley Carmichael: for non-violence to work, your opponent needs a conscience.

Israel never gave peace a chance. And why would they? They’ve been importing Jews from all over the world (even non-Jews), exterminating/deporting Palestinians to refugee camps where they are never legally allowed to return to Palestine, and building settlements out the ass overtop the rubble of Palestinian neighborhoods and they’re STILL the minority population. Democracy and due process and abiding by international law in Israel/Palestine means Palestinians are actually granted power. Can’t have that.





All the links I see don't come close to that 10,000 shot figure. I see 10,000 protested, but not that many shot. What's your source? Also, there are descriptions of grenades, explosions, and riots....not the most peaceful.

Yeah, I was around....additionally in the 90s with Bill and the Camp David affair. Differnt accounts but it semed close.....How do you negotiate with somone that believes you should not exist?


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Milleresque]
    #28502806 - 10/13/23 05:45 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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Human Rights Watch confirming Israel’s use of white phosphorus in Gaza and Lebanon:

https://x.com/hrw/status/1712573871596187916?s=46&t=NCHEHEdgn4yG76LKXrSTrw

Another war crime on to the pile, lads





White phosphorus is also used to mark targets, smoke screen, etc. It's not considered a chemical weapon although most often equate it to that. Just because it was used,  doesn't mean a war crime occured or didn't occur....it is the context. Good luck finding that out during a war.

I would rather take my chances around Willy Pete then be caught in the crossfire as a civilian.


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #28502882 - 10/13/23 07:23 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Hamas decided to blow their load knowing full well what scale the retaliation of Israel would be. I mean, thats really caring and sound governance for the populace.


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And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28502919 - 10/13/23 07:57 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Probably not.

I also don't believe the premise that every ill whether it be economic or social is all Israel's fault. As I stated before, the Palestinians have a tendency to become unstable by getting kicked out of numerous other countries.

To say that a rational response to this is to actively target a civilian populace in order to meet their end of self determination is ridiculous. Hamas already knew this, and didn't care. They have a fat chance in hell now because of this action.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The Official Israel/Hamas War Thread. [Re: B Traven]
    #28502929 - 10/13/23 08:07 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

What's my confirmation bias?


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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