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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28494537 - 10/06/23 02:55 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Here’s an unpopular opinion.
The republican party never regained a focus after the illegalization of slavery.
The republican party is a terrorist organization.
All they do is terrorize their voter base. They are actually terrorist by definition. The only thing they do is motivate people through fear.
“This clown car is getting a new driver, but it’s still going to the same place.”
Quote from a GOP on new house speaker roll


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28494553 - 10/06/23 03:21 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

equally unpopular, the dems are just as bad if not complicit.  weaponizing topics like roe v wade to manipulate their voters.  I don't hate Democrats because I'm on the same team as Republicans, I hate Democrats because they are on the same team as Republicans.  its a fucking scam on the working class.  Remember how everyone was so pissed off about trumps tax plan? everyone ends up paying the fed more taxes at the fiscal year end, and guess who didnt do anything about it? but you dont hear anyone saying anything about it.  everyone was in the streets protesting for various civil rights atrocities when Trump was in office, but then biden got elected and voila, not a fucking peep despite the fact that the cops are still murdering people.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #28494555 - 10/06/23 03:24 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

The government does not and historically never had the public’s interest in mind. And on a long enough time line it results in mass murder and then the assassination of political figures. Always has, always will.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494567 - 10/06/23 03:35 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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equally unpopular, the dems are just as bad if not complicit.  weaponizing topics like roe v wade to manipulate their voters.




How do you figure? Seems to me like it's Republicans pushing unpopular abortion restrictions that hurt people, to please the religious fringe.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: psi]
    #28494573 - 10/06/23 03:39 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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equally unpopular, the dems are just as bad if not complicit.  weaponizing topics like roe v wade to manipulate their voters.




How do you figure? Seems to me like it's Republicans pushing unpopular abortion restrictions that hurt people, to please the religious fringe.




yeah? and when the Democrats controlled all three branches and could have easily codified roe v wade, they didn't.  I mean why would they?  It's one of the most powerful manipulation tools in their bag.

not to mention they have the same wealthy religious zealot donors to please..

I don't accept these lesser of two evils arguments. The Democrats could have federally prevented these kinds of personal autonomy violations but they somply didnt.  Not because they can't but because they wont.

I fail to see how that's less than evil


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494574 - 10/06/23 03:42 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I expected some mental gymnastics and was not disappointed


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: psi]
    #28494575 - 10/06/23 03:44 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Please..


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 2
    #28494576 - 10/06/23 03:46 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

oh it doesn't take a severe level of mental fitness to understand that this red team blue team bullshit is an elaborate ruse to maintaining the status quo.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494580 - 10/06/23 03:52 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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yeah? and when the Democrats controlled all three branches and could have easily codified roe v wade, they didn't.  I mean why would they?  It's one of the most powerful manipulation tools in their bag.




I actually agree with this point. They should have codified it when they had the chance. They didn’t. I do feel like they didn’t expect it to literally go to the Supreme Court. But what possible reason did they have not to federally legalize marijuana while we are at it.
democrats are corrupt. They are evil. We’re just now getting Menendez to go to court. Everyone can be corrupt.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The fact is that democrats actually are trying to help. Some more than others. I think right now the scale has shifted so much further to the far right. That we literally have a republican getting reelected as the Democratic candidate right now. Joe, Biden to me at least. Is what an old republican was. He was a moderate republican. It has changed so much now, that he is our Democratic president…


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28494585 - 10/06/23 03:57 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Multi billionaire should pay 20% taxes.
Nobody should own more than three properties.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494588 - 10/06/23 03:58 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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oh it doesn't take a severe level of mental fitness to understand that this red team blue team bullshit is an elaborate ruse to maintaining the status quo.





That generally has been true in the past, especially regarding economic issues, but I find your argument pretty weak when it comes to abortion. The Democrats aren't really too interested in taxing the rich significantly, socializing healthcare etc and would be considered a center right party in a lot of other countries.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: psi] * 1
    #28494591 - 10/06/23 04:02 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Third parties are just considered a joke. But I honestly think people need to really start putting some effort behind it. But if we do, it feels like our vote is wasted. Which is why we should have ranked voting.
That way we could actually vote for third parties, and have our options open up. Right now we literally only got two choices. If you want to throw your vote towards a third-party. You might as well Burn it.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28494606 - 10/06/23 04:19 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

True of the general election, but you do have more options in the primaries.

It's probably not entirely out of the realm of possibility that a new party could start gaining some momentum in the House of Representatives and perhaps someday replace one of the big two parties. Changing your preferred party from within is probably more likely though. In the presidential race, yeah it's just a protest vote at best.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: psi]
    #28494645 - 10/06/23 04:55 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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True of the general election, but you do have more options in the primaries.

It's probably not entirely out of the realm of possibility that a new party could start gaining some momentum in the House of Representatives and perhaps someday replace one of the big two parties. Changing your preferred party from within is probably more likely though. In the presidential race, yeah it's just a protest vote at best.




I don't see that happening. 
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oh it doesn't take a severe level of mental fitness to understand that this red team blue team bullshit is an elaborate ruse to maintaining the status quo.





That generally has been true in the past, especially regarding economic issues, but I find your argument pretty weak when it comes to abortion. The Democrats aren't really too interested in taxing the rich significantly, socializing healthcare etc and would be considered a center right party in a lot of other countries.





i wish there was a better explaination but biden simply didnt do what he said hed do and ask  or make any effort to change filibuster practices.  I wish there was reason beyond the ol razzle dazzle: they actually valued it as a campaign tool.  did they know it would be overturned? i mean come on.  the repubs been licking their lips
over that for decades how could they not have expected.
they let it happen for sheer lack of trying. for sure its not guaranteed it would have been successful but, keeping only one fucking campaign promise, it would've been nice if they tried. 

I don't see it within the realm of possibility to get a third-party.  It will be interesting to see what Cornell west does.  My guess is they will make him run under a Democratic ticket and then throw him under the bus just like they did with Hillary versus Sanders.

It's the same old shit. Of course I will vote for whatever dawdling dipstick they run to keep a republican out of office but I'm not going to pretend it's going to do any good. 

(any good for the working class I should say)


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494650 - 10/06/23 04:58 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

All of this discussion of third parties would only be relevant after ranked voting was standard.
Until we fix that. Which would never happen as long as there’s a filibuster.
Third parties are moot.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28494656 - 10/06/23 05:01 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

kill gerrymandering and the electoral college and the republicans might as well not even nominate anyone.

i suppose then a new party might be feesible


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494659 - 10/06/23 05:03 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I have a post called president Genesis. I’m literally just pulling some of my points from that. Then putting them here.

Two of those are. Gerrymandering is illegal. The electoral college system is abolished.

Honestly, the electoral college system is a relic of slavery. There’s an unpopular opinion.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28494661 - 10/06/23 05:05 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion at all.  (only popular by the electoral system itself)


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28494702 - 10/06/23 05:55 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Tipping should be illegal
If you desperately want to give money to somebody because they did an excellent job. That should just be a gift. But it’s just an excuse to have borderline slave labor.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28494735 - 10/06/23 06:21 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Im not sure if fucking the poorest people is the answer.. how bout just having a minimum wage thats actually a livable wage and nobody is exempt? some states already require restaurants to pay the min wage.

sure.  then abolish tipping or whatever.


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