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Invisiblebub_x
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All trips the same?
    #2849297 - 07/02/04 12:48 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Every time I trip on mushrooms it seems to bring me the same message..

The trip starts with coming up: goofy feelings, visuals - nothing serious

then the trip gets very hard: don't usually remember this part - very bliss full

then the trip turns solid and more serious - thoughts about how all people are just following the precedents set by other people, there really is no authority structure, everyone is on the same level, you see life clearer and I always feel empty

then the trip either calms down or you freak out a little - during the freaking out you just want it to end, thoughts of suicide, worthlessness, you desire to have borders set up again, you want to be controlled by authority, sick of not knowing - want someone to have power over you again

then the trip ends

the last 5 or so trips have been this way for me and when my friend tripped with me he basically had the same trip... crazy

are all trips like this? any idea on how to make my trip more "fun" and less shaman like?


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: bub_x]
    #2849669 - 07/02/04 02:11 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Put yourself in different settings for each one. Different places and times, don't get into a rut with it, and don't wear out the experience save it for special occasions...being a shaman should be fun.


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: bub_x]
    #2849956 - 07/02/04 03:25 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

For your next trip get a devils mask, a mirror, some candles and find a haunted house...


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: Swami]
    #2849977 - 07/02/04 03:31 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I nearly shit myself when I read this:

"For your next trip get a devils mask, a mirror, some candles and find a haunted house... "

That sounds like a real winner I'll be trying that one myself as soon as possible.


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #2850050 - 07/02/04 04:07 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Ive never really had many negative/anti-self thoughts while on a trip.

its hard to articulate but for me its usually....

1- trip comes on, I get the feeling "oh fuck, I shouldnt have done this, im going straight to hell..."

2- that subsides and I get comfortable in my knew skin, coupled with a huge burst of positive thoughts and passion for existence.

3- lots of amazing epiphanies, everything works out perfectly in a demented circular logic. I get really amazed by ideas like "cutting down trees and turning them into money"

4- these types of thoughts lose their luster and begin to seem really defeatist. I become really sick and tired of modern life. Life is pointless, blah blah blah.

5- things begin to get normal again, and my previous thoughts begin to seem incoherent and a tad stupid.

6- then I end up smoking a joint and passing out on my friends couch, or in a closet somewhere.


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: Positronius]
    #2850138 - 07/02/04 04:48 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

hahaha I think I'm about the same as well.

shit.


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: kotik]
    #2850158 - 07/02/04 05:02 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

yeah the turning point of the trip is always the segway from:

"fuck, I cant believe we cut down trees and turn them into paper money so we can buy products and services, that is sooooo insane"

to

"fuck, I should cut one these trees down and make me some money"

a transformation from -laughing at the ridiculous hideousness that is our theatre of life, and the economic trends that dominate our surroundings.

to 000 pure pragmatism 000 accepting the rules of the game, the terms of engagement, and quickly analyzing the situation and developing a strategy to insure ones survival and ability to thrive.

to stay alive.


Edited by Positronius (07/02/04 07:09 AM)


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: bub_x]
    #2850621 - 07/02/04 11:15 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

you have taken the shaman's tool
and are surprised that it is not all cartoons?


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: bub_x]
    #2850815 - 07/02/04 12:58 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Some degree of introspection is to be expected. Use the insight you gain about yourself to improve yourself. Pay attention particularly to the things you do not like about yourself...there is a reason for it.


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #2851915 - 07/02/04 05:22 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

If you can't find a haunted house, you may substitute a cemetary. The older, the better.


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: Positronius]
    #2851930 - 07/02/04 05:25 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

then I end up smoking a joint and passing out on my friends couch, or in a closet somewhere.

I've been on that very same couch, the one with the thread-bare cushions - right?


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Re: All trips the same? [Re: Swami]
    #2852480 - 07/02/04 09:49 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Your sarcasm is tasty...


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